Scott Lycett

Started by Daicos., February 24, 2018, 07:49:39 PM

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Bully

Too risky, both Vardy & Nic Nat wouldn't be too far away. Sticking with Gawnstein.

Toga

But you're picking Lycett based on the assumption that he will be WCE's #1 ruck in Round 1 right? As NN is unlikely to be fit and looks like his competition in Vardy is injured.

If so - yeah, he should score well early on while he gets bulk midfield minutes. But if NN comes into the team and Lycett plays more up forward and relieving in the ruck? Surely he doesn't score well enough to warrant consideration

Torpedo10

Quote from: Toga on March 04, 2018, 11:35:48 PM
But you're picking Lycett based on the assumption that he will be WCE's #1 ruck in Round 1 right? As NN is unlikely to be fit and looks like his competition in Vardy is injured.

If so - yeah, he should score well early on while he gets bulk midfield minutes. But if NN comes into the team and Lycett plays more up forward and relieving in the ruck? Surely he doesn't score well enough to warrant consideration
At 270k with his scoring history, I'd say it's still reasonable for him to make 100-150k playing 2nd ruck/forward whilst averaging at minimum 75ish. Allows us to view the best rucks for the season.

Bully

The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

Adamant

Averaged 79 playing alongside NN in 2016 which includes the paltry score of 2. Priced at 50.4. He's a workhorse and doesn't need many hitouts with above average tackle numbers for a ruck.

As long as Vardy is ruled out for the first month or so of the season then he'll be my R2.

Gigantor

Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

fanTCfool

Quote from: Adamant on March 04, 2018, 11:51:09 PM
Averaged 79 playing alongside NN in 2016 which includes the paltry score of 2. Priced at 50.4. He's a workhorse and doesn't need many hitouts with above average tackle numbers for a ruck.

As long as Vardy is ruled out for the first month or so of the season then he'll be my R2.

What was his average with NN in the same side? Excluding the infamous 2 as an anomaly.

Bully

Quote from: Gigantor on March 04, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

7 seasons, 50 games, 1 good year. Plus Nic Nat & Vardy loom large. If he misses an early game it will be tough to get a replacement. Hasn't played for 12 months either, I just see trouble ahead, I'm not sure why people want to do this when they can effectively get the same deal with a premo ruck & a 300k midfielder.

Adamant

Quote from: fanTCfool on March 04, 2018, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Adamant on March 04, 2018, 11:51:09 PM
Averaged 79 playing alongside NN in 2016 which includes the paltry score of 2. Priced at 50.4. He's a workhorse and doesn't need many hitouts with above average tackle numbers for a ruck.

As long as Vardy is ruled out for the first month or so of the season then he'll be my R2.

What was his average with NN in the same side? Excluding the infamous 2 as an anomaly.

87.3.

Gigantor

Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 04, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

7 seasons, 50 games, 1 good year. Plus Nic Nat & Vardy loom large. If he misses an early game it will be tough to get a replacement. Hasn't played for 12 months either, I just see trouble ahead, I'm not sure why people want to do this when they can effectively get the same deal with a premo ruck & a 300k midfielder.

Yeah there is definitely risk involved
There not being a clear cut second ruck after Gawn is also something to consider

StuL

Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 04, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

7 seasons, 50 games, 1 good year. Plus Nic Nat & Vardy loom large. If he misses an early game it will be tough to get a replacement. Hasn't played for 12 months either, I just see trouble ahead, I'm not sure why people want to do this when they can effectively get the same deal with a premo ruck & a 300k midfielder.

Because JOM and Armitage aren't worth picking either.

Bully

Quote from: StuL on March 05, 2018, 12:19:16 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 04, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

7 seasons, 50 games, 1 good year. Plus Nic Nat & Vardy loom large. If he misses an early game it will be tough to get a replacement. Hasn't played for 12 months either, I just see trouble ahead, I'm not sure why people want to do this when they can effectively get the same deal with a premo ruck & a 300k midfielder.

Because JOM and Armitage aren't worth picking either.

At least with those two you can use a sideways trade or trade down to the best performed rookie. With Lycett you are stuffed if he gets dropped or misses a game through injury or suspension.

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 12:32:11 AM
Quote from: StuL on March 05, 2018, 12:19:16 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 04, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

7 seasons, 50 games, 1 good year. Plus Nic Nat & Vardy loom large. If he misses an early game it will be tough to get a replacement. Hasn't played for 12 months either, I just see trouble ahead, I'm not sure why people want to do this when they can effectively get the same deal with a premo ruck & a 300k midfielder.

Because JOM and Armitage aren't worth picking either.

At least with those two you can use a sideways trade or trade down to the best performed rookie. With Lycett you are stuffed if he gets dropped or misses a game through injury or suspension.

That's the big concern. I just put him in my side to see how it looks and it looks bloody good on the other lines.
Just a huge risk though if he misses a game. Would really want to be sure he's there until round 10 and then get Ryder in

tommy10

Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 12:32:11 AM
Quote from: StuL on March 05, 2018, 12:19:16 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 04, 2018, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
The problem with this strategy is there's no obvious remedial trade. Lycett has never played a whole season either, 2 trades to fix. Much better going premo in the ruck & a mid-pricer like Armitage or O'Meara.

His two missed games in 2016 were from suspension, plus he doesn't need to play the whole year, just enough to make some coin

7 seasons, 50 games, 1 good year. Plus Nic Nat & Vardy loom large. If he misses an early game it will be tough to get a replacement. Hasn't played for 12 months either, I just see trouble ahead, I'm not sure why people want to do this when they can effectively get the same deal with a premo ruck & a 300k midfielder.

Because JOM and Armitage aren't worth picking either.

At least with those two you can use a sideways trade or trade down to the best performed rookie. With Lycett you are stuffed if he gets dropped or misses a game through injury or suspension.
Im with Bully here, if you start with a premo ruck, you can swap him for another. If Armitage fails to fire swap for a performing rookie you don’t have. Btw, I think Armitage will do really well this year, as mentioned in the expensive rookies thread, so I see real value here. Don’t think he can get back to his 110 avg year (almost) in 2015, but if he’s averaging 100, $$$ generation plus points. Winning!!

Ingram

Going with Lycett + Cameron and doing Ryder + Olongo after Port Bye seems the obvious approach. Cameron a handy back up and generates cash in a line a lot have sacrificed for loopholling.