JLT Player Discussion

[Spite]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/afl-supercoach-2018-experts-review-jlt-preseason-games/news-story/4d4bf6857f15f3ffe0cbdb3725c79c73

Those were my thoughts if that helps. Small mistake due to HS editing ends of sentences so ignore it if you find it :P

EDIT* I told you in the other thread that the 'experts' are really just as good (or poor) as any of us on the forum... now it's true  :-X

[quinny88]

DV has always been more of a forward who has stints in the midfield, not the other way around. He was never going to step straight into an AFL side and spend bulk minutes inside, especially considering he has barely played since being drafted.

I can't see him playing Rd 1 on that performance so he'll need to show something in JLT2. The Ah Chee injury may help his cause.

I had planned on getting 2 of Venables, Rioli and Ryan but it might be best to just look at getting 1.
Will see how they go next game though. Hopefully they all play together

[Huttabito]

DV has always been more of a forward who has stints in the midfield, not the other way around. He was never going to step straight into an AFL side and spend bulk minutes inside, especially considering he has barely played since being drafted.

I can't see him playing Rd 1 on that performance so he'll need to show something in JLT2. The Ah Chee injury may help his cause.

I had planned on getting 2 of Venables, Rioli and Ryan but it might be best to just look at getting 1.
Will see how they go next game though. Hopefully they all play together

None of the WCE rookies excite me, saw a lot running all 3 at stages and don't think that was ever going to end well. Ryan showed some promises, 4 clangers hurt his score but did get some contested ball and tackles to give him something decent.

Needs to smarten up though, was too worried trying to take hangers giving away free kicks as opposed to staying on the ground to get a loose ball snap.

[dmac07]

Doedee, Barry and Fristch all locked in if named round 1.

Looking at Banfield and Brayshaw as well.

Interested to see if C.Ellis can keep it up, could be a very tempting option in defense.

[Nige]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/afl-supercoach-2018-experts-review-jlt-preseason-games/news-story/4d4bf6857f15f3ffe0cbdb3725c79c73

Those were my thoughts if that helps. Small mistake due to HS editing ends of sentences so ignore it if you find it :P

EDIT* I told you in the other thread that the 'experts' are really just as good (or poor) as any of us on the forum... now it's true  :-X

Would sure be nice to actually be able to read the article!

[shaker]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/afl-supercoach-2018-experts-review-jlt-preseason-games/news-story/4d4bf6857f15f3ffe0cbdb3725c79c73

Those were my thoughts if that helps. Small mistake due to HS editing ends of sentences so ignore it if you find it :P

EDIT* I told you in the other thread that the 'experts' are really just as good (or poor) as any of us on the forum... now it's true  :-X

Would sure be nice to actually be able to read the article!

Yeah sorry not a subscriber I've learnt now if it says herald sun it's not for my eyes  :P

[Money Shot]

Doedee, Barry and Fristch all locked in if named round 1.

Looking at Banfield and Brayshaw as well.

Interested to see if C.Ellis can keep it up, could be a very tempting option in defense.

Exact same things I have taken out of the first few JLT games.

[frenzy]

Dow named on the ball, nice   8)

[meow meow]

paddy Dow

[frenzy]

paddy Dow

yep him

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-26/jlt-squads-paddy-back-new-blues-in

[Ringo]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/afl-supercoach-2018-experts-review-jlt-preseason-games/news-story/4d4bf6857f15f3ffe0cbdb3725c79c73

Those were my thoughts if that helps. Small mistake due to HS editing ends of sentences so ignore it if you find it :P

EDIT* I told you in the other thread that the 'experts' are really just as good (or poor) as any of us on the forum... now it's true  :-X

Would sure be nice to actually be able to read the article!

Yeah sorry not a subscriber I've learnt now if it says herald sun it's not for my eyes  :P

But we can help each other. Here is the article:
There were some outstanding performances from the likes of Nat Fyfe, Dustin Martin and Essendon recruit Devon Smith, but there were some shockers.

Jake Stringer flopped in his Bombers debut and one of the most popular cash cows of the year so far, North Melbourne draftee Luke Davies-Uniacke, had us a little worried.

There were also some surprises â€" West Coast’s Jack Redden put in an outstanding performance to rack up 162 SuperCoach points as the weekend’s top scorer and Port Adelaide’s Dom Barry exceeded expectations in his first game for the club.

Doctor SuperCoach experts, Peter Guss and Shannon Geitz, watched closely across the weekend to gather the intel you need to build your SuperCoach team.

ESSENDON (37) def by RICHMOND (124)

DEVON SMITH ($439,100 FWD) 118pts â€" PROMISING SIGNS

The new recruit gave Essendon and SuperCoach fans a lot to like in his first hit out for the club. Smith lined up on the ball before the Zach Merrett’s head knock and finished with a game-high 26 disposals. A repeat in JLT 2 would make Smith a hot commodity for Round 1.

DARCY PARISH ($419,000 FWD/MID) 89pts â€" WATCH LIST

After playing forward a bit last year, Parish led Essendon in centre bounce attendance in JLT 1, paving the way to become this year’s breakout star. He averaged 72.7 as a rookie but stagnated last year when playing forward. With Merrett going down early, it is unclear if the injury forced Parish into the midfield, however, there is enough upside to watch him closely.

JAKE STRINGER ($356,000 FWD) 22pts â€" ONE MORE CHANCE

Most coaches would be writing off Stringer immediately for his awkward midfield performance, however his 13 centre bounce attendances in only 46% time-on-ground clearly paint a picture moving forward that Stringer will be given plenty of opportunities to play in the midfield. JLT 2 allows Stringer another chance to audition â€" without another early head knock â€" but the damage may already be done in the unforgiving SuperCoach community.

DUSTIN MARTIN ($656,000 MID) 108pts â€" LOCKED IN

In just 61 per cent time-on-ground, Dusty racked up 24 disposals in a dominant display across half forward and the midfield and did not look like he has missed a beat after the break. We forget that Dusty actually played through a lot of discomfort last season yet still was the league’s best player. The scary thing is that he can still get better.

BRANDON ELLIS ($502,500 DEF) 57pts â€" WAIT AND SEE

Ellis averaged over 100 points after Round 10 last season, however his finals performances â€" a lowly 57.3 average â€" left some SuperCoaches questioning his selection for 2018. Another 57 points in JLT 1 from just 12 possessions and 80% time-on-ground, all of it spent down back, will certainly leave coaches watching him closely in JLT 2.

KANE LAMBERT ($472,500 FWD/MID) 73pts â€" POINT OF DIFFERENCE (POD)

Finding himself in just 1.9 per cent of teams, Lambert spent time in JLT 1 as an inside midfielder with some stints around half forward â€" not dissimilar to his role after Richmond’s bye in 2017. Given that fruitful role provided a 93.6 average for the rest of the season, Lambert looms as a unique selection.

Missing in action: Essendon: Michael Hurley, Tom Bellchambers, Orazio Fantasia, Cale Hooker, Aaron Francis, David Myers

Richmond: Dion Prestia, Daniel Rioli, Nathan Broad

NORTH MELBOURNE (71) def by MELBOURNE (124)

MAX GAWN ($503,700 RUC) 145pts â€" LOCKED IN

After his 118.5 average in 2016, coaches had high hopes for Gawn in 2017 until injury derailed his season. A 39 hitout, 145 SuperCoach point display should give coaches enough confidence to make sure Gawn is firmly entrenched in their team come Round 1.

CLAYTON OLIVER ($612,800 MID) 108pts â€" PROMISING SIGNS

The breakout star from last season continued to impress and showed no indication of slowing down. Even though he was tagged in the first half, Oliver still managed a game-high 15 contested possessions and looms as a safe selection.
CHRISTIAN PETRACCA ($433,300 FWD/MID) 82pts â€" WAIT AND SEE

Petracca looked to be a premier half forward with stints through the midfield in JLT 1. His disposal efficiency was down (57 per cent) however, given his 82 SuperCoach points, there is plenty of upside in his selection. Hopefully he will be presented with more midfield minutes.

BAYLEY FRITSCH ($117,300 FWD) 70pts â€" MONEY MAKER

Fritsch looked comfortable and scored 3.2 from 11 possessions and six marks. There is a spot open for him in the forward line and the rookie looks to have one hand on it. At this price, it would be hard to ignore him. Watch this space.

ANGUS BRAYSHAW ($316,700 DEF/MID) 35pts â€" STAY AWAY

The mid-priced defender appears in a lot of teams, with coaches obviously hopeful that the talented youngster will play plenty of midfield time in 2018. However, this idea was quickly quashed in JLT 1, with Brayshaw playing everywhere except throughout the midfield, registering just 13 touches.

MICHAEL HIBBERD ($545,200 DEF) 121pts â€" THE SAFE SELECTION

Any concerns about Jake Lever’s impact on Michael Hibberd were made void, as Hibberd continued where he left off from last year, rebounding at will from the Dees’ backline. A recreation of his 99.2 point average from last season is certainly on the cards after his game-high 27 touches at a cool 82% disposal efficiency.

LUKE DAVIES-UNIACKE ($189,300 MID) 52pts â€" THE QUESTION MARK

The No. 4 pick didn’t show any discomfort from his tight back however 12 disposals from 78 per cent game time leaves a lot to be desired from the premium-priced rookie. A 60+ average at a minimum should be expected from a rookie at this price and LDU will need to put in a good showing in JLT 2 to justify his selection.

LUKE MCDONALD ($461,100 DEF) 30pts â€" ONE MORE CHANCE

Slated to play more midfield time, McDonald just couldn’t find the ball with only nine disposals from 73 per cent time on ground. A disposal efficiency of 44 per cent didn’t help. JLT 2 is the perfect stage for him to showcase why he should be considered in our sides.

Missing in action: North Melbourne: Mason Wood, Braydon Preuss, Taylor Garner, Jy Simpkin, Sam Wright

Melbourne: Neville Jetta, Jack Viney, Dom Tyson

ADELAIDE (91) def FREMANTLE (81)

NATHAN FYFE ($597,900 MID) 162pts â€" LOCKED IN

Fyfe started at half forward with devastating effect â€" registering 19 touches in the half â€" before going through the midfield when the game was on the line. Fyfe averaged 126 points in the last eight games of 2017.

ANDREW BRAYSHAW ($198,300 MID) 87pts â€" MONEY MAKER

The No. 2 pick showed his class with an exciting 87 SuperCoach points. Playing as an inside midfielder, he was clean with the ball â€" going at 85 per cent efficiency.

MICHAEL WALTERS ($478,300 MID) 102pts â€" PROMISING SIGNS

Walters played almost exclusively as an inside midfielder, although he only managed to gather a paltry 13 touches. His seven tackles and 10 contested possessions helped boost his score, however the most appealing aspect of his game was proof that Ross Lyon plans to use him in the midfield again in 2018. Massive upside after Walters averaged 103 points last season.

MATT CROUCH ($608,300 MID) 107pts â€" BALL MAGNET

Crouch displayed his ball-winning prowess, racking up 36 disposals including 22 in the first half. He knows how to find the footy. Crouch finished the year with a 10-game average above 125 points. A top-five SuperCoach finish is certainly on the cards.

TOM DOEDEE ($123,900 DEF) 84pts â€" THE ROOKIE LOCK

Each season a rookie finds themselves in every serious SuperCoach team and this year it is Doedee. An eye-catching display of 16 disposals bolstered Doedee’s case for Round 1.

CAM ELLIS-YOLMEN ($263,900 MID) 99pts â€" ADD TO YOUR WATCHLIST

AFLX showed a fierce and unrelenting CEY and in JLT 1 it was much the same. He was given chances to play in the midfield and performed admirably, however with the imminent return of Rory Sloane and Brad Crouch, CEY will be one to watch going into JLT 2. He averaged 74.4 in 2015 before injuries and opportunity dried up.

RORY LAIRD ($550,800 DEF) 103pts â€" THE SAFE SELECTION

Something would need to go horribly wrong for one of the most popular players in the game to fall out of favour. Already in 43.7 per cent of teams, Laird collected 27 possessions across half back with a clean 92 per cent efficiency. He did, however, have seven kicks to 20 handballs, a strange ratio for Laird and one to watch in JLT 2.

Missing in action: Adelaide: Taylor Walker, Brodie Smith, Brad Crouch, Riley Knight, Eddie Betts, Daniel Talia

Fremantle: Sean Darcy, Harley Bennell, Ethan Hughes, Joel Hamling, Stephen Hill

WEST COAST EAGLES (56) def PORT ADELAIDE (54)

ROBBIE GRAY ($504,300 FWD) 40pts â€" WAIT AND SEE

It’s a compliment to Gray that he can score 40 points barely pushing into second gear. Gray hardly saw the midfield and was seemingly going through the pre-season motions while still showing touches of characteristic class. A tenuous midfield role and complicated Round 10 bye makes it too early to tell if Gray commands a spot in SuperCoach just yet. Watch the MRP closely after the high bump on Jeremy McGovern.

PATRICK RYDER ($566,500 RUC) 88pts â€" PROMISING SIGNS

Ryder’s score of 84 is almost inconsequential, as he was tapping to a different midfield group at almost every centre bounce. The pros are that he looked solid around the ground, had almost three quarters on the ground and displayed solidly in the ruck throughout. As for the cons, he saw the bench more than he did the forward 50 (although this should change come the regular season), and also that pesky Round 10 bye.

RILEY BONNER ($257,300 DEF) 49pts â€" ONE MORE CHANCE

An early goal was a rare highlight for this Port rookie, who played largely on the wing and attended a few stoppages throughout the match. That role won’t gain him enough possessions to make our teams enough cash, which is necessary given his inflated price. Dom Barry was running off the half back and Jasper Pittard looked close to his best as Port’s top SuperCoach scorer â€" both bad signs for Bonner. Still, we can’t seem to say goodbye just yet.

ELLIOT YEO ($561,300 DEF) 96pts â€" THE YOYO

True to his nickname, Yeo’s first outing was an inconsistent affair, with some sloppy play still resulting in 96 points. Yeo floated around the ground and primarily across half back when needed, never truly sticking to a position and even managing to hit the scoreboard for a goal. A solid pre-season should see him ready and raring to go for Round 1.

JACK REDDEN ($437,900 MID) 162pts â€" WATCH LIST

Redden burst out of the blocks with a standout best-on-ground 162-point performance. The dominant display included 26 touches at 88% efficiency and six score involvements against. Worth noting, Port rotated players through the midfield. Redden needs another big game to cement his place â€" especially when you consider his Brisbane days (averaged 100+) and the retirements of Sam Mitchell and Matt Priddis.

BRENDON AH CHEE ($255,100 FWD/MID) 48pts â€" THE QUESTION MARK

Ah Chee’s role was a must-watch this game, with SuperCoaches eagerly looking to see if he would receive enough midfield time to be the fruitful cash cow we crave. One game through the JLT and that answer is a negative, as Ah Chee played forward for most of the game, only pushing further down the ground in open play, and not earning enough points to earn the dough that would justify his price.

LIAM RYAN ($117,300 FWD) 46pts â€" MONEY MAKER

It’s the sign of SuperCoaches’ dreams when a low-priced rookies show elite presence in the forward 50 and offers what should be enough to warrant a spot in the team come Round 1. Only scored 43 points but we saw enough from Ryan to pencil him in.

DOM BARRY ($117,300 MID) 99pts â€" THE SECOND CHANCE

The redemption arc is near completion with Barry almost back to the AFL and playing at lightning speed. In his new rebounding role, Barry found space all over the ground, be it at stoppages, through the midfield and even between the sticks. Matthew Broadbent is looking at a stint on the sidelines so, pending his Round 1 selection, lock Barry in to your SuperCoach considerations.

Missing Missing in action: West Coast: Nic Naitanui, Josh Kennedy, Willie Riolo, Eric Mackenzie

Port Adelaide: Tom Rockliff, Sam Gray, Chad Wingard, Jared Polec, Matthew Broadbent

[RoughRed]

Thanks Ringo!

[HappyDEZ]

Cheers Ringo.

[elephants]

Great read there Ringo cheers

Ah Chee must be loving the fact that he came across for some midfield opportunity and yet finds himself on a flank again. Simpson is clueless.

Being closer to family/friends was another reason he came across, but if he isn't getting time in the midfield there are clearly deficiencies in his game that stop that from happening. Whether that be tank, lack of two way running, understanding of stoppage methods etc

I love people who think they know better than professional AFL coaches in this case relatively successful coaches in Simpson and Hinkley :P

[Money Shot]

Things I have learnt in the first 4 games.

Correy Ellis could be a good pod if he continues to get midfield minutes at Richmond. He is the perfect cheap midpricer that most teams are looking for at D4. Richmond had a pretty strong team with Prestia and Rioli the only two players from the best 22 not playing which means he could be a real good chance to cement a spot in the team. If he impresses in JLT 2 he might just find him self in my team.

Walters and Smith could be the real deal. Although both have been touted all preseason to play more midfield minutes both did in the JLT which showed promising signs. Walters was playing in a team pretty close to best 22 which is even more impressing. If they both play bulk minutes in the midfield minutes they might be too hard to not pick.

Mundy could be a good pod. He is the wrong side of 30 but surely he wont go below 90 and is good for 22 games? Don't think I will pick him as he seems to be declining each year but he is on my watch list.

Stringer and Brayshaw could be flops. Both are in over 10% of teams (Brayshaw is currently in mine) but looked like they won't live up to the hype over the preseason. Stringer just didn't look like a midfielder and Brayshaw played over 70% game time and only scored 34. Be careful selecting either of them. Ah Chee is in a similar boat as he barely made it too the midfield from what I could see.

Fyfe and Gawn are must haves.

Barry, Doedee and Fritsch are locks.

Brayshaw (Fre) if named round 1 has to be considered as he looks really comfortable at AFL level. Davies-Uniacke also looked comfortable at AFL but didn't score incredibly well, need to watch and see.

The Good: Walters, Smith, C. Ellis, Mundy, Fyfe, Gawn, Doedee, Fritsch, Barry, Brayshaw (Fre) , Laird, Hibberd, Martin, M. Crouch,

The Bad: Stringer, Ah Chee, Brayshaw (Mel), L. McDonald, Bonner, Gray, B. Ellis