Dustin Martin or Tom Mitchell?

Started by jbjimmyjb, February 12, 2018, 10:08:26 PM

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ubeaut

Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that
That's a good point. However it's hard to start all the guns, 2 or 3 in most people's mids will have to be an upgrade target. Out of the top 3 priced mids Dusty is more likely to drop the most and be affordable than Danger and Mitchell. So it's weighing these two things up.

shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.

shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

tbagrocks

Dusty hasn't stopped getting better yet, trust me ;)  Where as I don't think T Mitch has mush improvement left, what you see is what you get!

Dusty has the perfect SC game ;D  All great kicks with little handball (CD still cheat him ::) ), Mitch the opposite!

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

Just being a realist mate, Richmond will be thereabouts but the game plan will be picked to shreds. Unless Dimma becomes the master strategist and pulls out another rabbit we'll be back with the pack. Brilliant season was 2017 but I honestly don't believe we are witnessing a dynasty.

Southstorm

Alright, let's compare the facts.

Tmitch:
- cheap accumulator.
- manlet height
- has freckles
- generic $20 haircut
- won't be tagged because nobody cares about him

Dusty
- heroic, all round player with hurt factor
- aesthetic 188cm
- has sick tatts
- a haircut that makes your wife swoon
- won't be tagged because he is god.

Obvious choice to me.

ben_020285

Who is more likely to pump out scores that you would be happy to have as Captain?

Go with that guy.

Perts24

You got danger for captain scores. I'm going by the theory that they should both average around the same amount but dusty is the most likely to drop in price so therefore I will select titch.

ben_020285

Quote from: Perts24 on February 15, 2018, 11:55:00 PM
You got danger for captain scores. I'm going by the theory that they should both average around the same amount but dusty is the most likely to drop in price so therefore I will select titch.

Some don't have Danger for captain scores so for them in particular, Dusty is the better pick imo.

Perts24

Quote from: ben_020285 on February 16, 2018, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: Perts24 on February 15, 2018, 11:55:00 PM
You got danger for captain scores. I'm going by the theory that they should both average around the same amount but dusty is the most likely to drop in price so therefore I will select titch.

Some don't have Danger for captain scores so for them in particular, Dusty is the better pick imo.
If you don't have danger then should you be allowed to play?

ben_020285

Quote from: Perts24 on February 16, 2018, 12:04:18 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 16, 2018, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: Perts24 on February 15, 2018, 11:55:00 PM
You got danger for captain scores. I'm going by the theory that they should both average around the same amount but dusty is the most likely to drop in price so therefore I will select titch.

Some don't have Danger for captain scores so for them in particular, Dusty is the better pick imo.
If you don't have danger then should you be allowed to play?

If you spend the cash from not starting Danger wisely and aim to bring him in asap then yes, you should be allowed to play.

Perts24

In all seriousness how are you gonna spend 100k to make up 17 points x2 for captain scores plus the 2 or 3 trades you're gonna need to use to get him in?

ben_020285

Quote from: Perts24 on February 16, 2018, 12:13:08 AM
In all seriousness how are you gonna spend 100k to make up 17 points x2 for captain scores plus the 2 or 3 trades you're gonna need to use to get him in?

And that's the $50,000 question.

Anyway enough about Danger, we're derailing the thread.

You prefer Mitchell and I prefer Dusty.  :)

Perts24

Quote from: ben_020285 on February 16, 2018, 12:21:12 AM
Quote from: Perts24 on February 16, 2018, 12:13:08 AM
In all seriousness how are you gonna spend 100k to make up 17 points x2 for captain scores plus the 2 or 3 trades you're gonna need to use to get him in?

And that's the $50,000 question.

Anyway enough about Danger, we're derailing the thread.

You prefer Mitchell and I prefer Dusty.  :)
Hahahah I don't prefer either, I rate em both highly and think they should average around the same. As you said dusty will have higher scores but he is also prone to the odd 70 or 50 so he should drop whereas Mitchell is consistently around that 115 mark. Both are solid picks.