Dustin Martin or Tom Mitchell?

Started by jbjimmyjb, February 12, 2018, 10:08:26 PM

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Money Shot

It has been said on this thread many times that Dusty had a string of poor scores due to hip problems but people just keep on ignoring it!?!?!

Titchell averaged 47.3 possesions a game and averaged the same as an injured dusty ;)


quinny88

Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 10:48:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
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Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

Just being a realist mate, Richmond will be thereabouts but the game plan will be picked to shreds. Unless Dimma becomes the master strategist and pulls out another rabbit we'll be back with the pack. Brilliant season was 2017 but I honestly don't believe we are witnessing a dynasty.

The game plan is all based around manic pressure and tackling so I don't know how you can stop that. It's up to Richmond if they want to bring it again and are hungry enough.

On Dusty, there's a chance he drops off a little but at worst he averages 115 and will still be in the top 5 scorers in the comp. Easier to just start the players you know will be the best of the best

Perts24

Quote from: quinny88 on February 16, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 10:48:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

Just being a realist mate, Richmond will be thereabouts but the game plan will be picked to shreds. Unless Dimma becomes the master strategist and pulls out another rabbit we'll be back with the pack. Brilliant season was 2017 but I honestly don't believe we are witnessing a dynasty.

The game plan is all based around manic pressure and tackling so I don't know how you can stop that. It's up to Richmond if they want to bring it again and are hungry enough.

On Dusty, there's a chance he drops off a little but at worst he averages 115 and will still be in the top 5 scorers in the comp. Easier to just start the players you know will be the best of the best
There's only so many top players you can fit into the salary cap though. Got to leave a couple out, and looking at Dusty's history he is most prone to through out a low score. Even during his insane back half of last season he had a 70 odd score. Preferably you'd wanna start both but if for whatever reason you can't, dusty is the most likely to fall to a reasonable price to trade in. (In my opinion)

quinny88

Quote from: Perts24 on February 16, 2018, 11:57:38 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 16, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 10:48:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

Just being a realist mate, Richmond will be thereabouts but the game plan will be picked to shreds. Unless Dimma becomes the master strategist and pulls out another rabbit we'll be back with the pack. Brilliant season was 2017 but I honestly don't believe we are witnessing a dynasty.

The game plan is all based around manic pressure and tackling so I don't know how you can stop that. It's up to Richmond if they want to bring it again and are hungry enough.

On Dusty, there's a chance he drops off a little but at worst he averages 115 and will still be in the top 5 scorers in the comp. Easier to just start the players you know will be the best of the best
There's only so many top players you can fit into the salary cap though. Got to leave a couple out, and looking at Dusty's history he is most prone to through out a low score. Even during his insane back half of last season he had a 70 odd score. Preferably you'd wanna start both but if for whatever reason you can't, dusty is the most likely to fall to a reasonable price to trade in. (In my opinion)

Yes I agree I would pick Mitchell if I was choosing 1 to start. Danger, Dusty, Mitchell and Fyfe are locked for me though, I'll save money elsewhere

Perts24

Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 12:40:08 AM
Quote from: Perts24 on February 16, 2018, 11:57:38 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 16, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 10:48:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

Just being a realist mate, Richmond will be thereabouts but the game plan will be picked to shreds. Unless Dimma becomes the master strategist and pulls out another rabbit we'll be back with the pack. Brilliant season was 2017 but I honestly don't believe we are witnessing a dynasty.

The game plan is all based around manic pressure and tackling so I don't know how you can stop that. It's up to Richmond if they want to bring it again and are hungry enough.

On Dusty, there's a chance he drops off a little but at worst he averages 115 and will still be in the top 5 scorers in the comp. Easier to just start the players you know will be the best of the best
There's only so many top players you can fit into the salary cap though. Got to leave a couple out, and looking at Dusty's history he is most prone to through out a low score. Even during his insane back half of last season he had a 70 odd score. Preferably you'd wanna start both but if for whatever reason you can't, dusty is the most likely to fall to a reasonable price to trade in. (In my opinion)

Yes I agree I would pick Mitchell if I was choosing 1 to start. Danger, Dusty, Mitchell and Fyfe are locked for me though, I'll save money elsewhere
Yeah agreed, although I'm tossing up between dusty and Ablett cause I can't help myself.

quinny88

Quote from: Perts24 on February 17, 2018, 01:01:06 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 12:40:08 AM
Quote from: Perts24 on February 16, 2018, 11:57:38 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 16, 2018, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 10:48:42 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 15, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
Including finals as well, Martin averaged 122 for the season. That 122 also includes games where he played with a fractured cheekbone and games where he played with a flexor strain. Absolutely has improvement in him, a clean bill of health and he'll back up and go 120+ again.

He might but he will also throw in a few stinkers which will force his price down.
Most players have some stinkers if you are going to start him you don't care about price it's all about having the player that can pump out the big scores and he can do that

It's the same reason I won't start with KP forwards, high standard deviation players are best left for trading when the time is right.
He scored 54 in R4 when he had a hip problem then 92 93 87 after that probably because of hip and 74 in R16 all the rest were 100+ so you could argue without the hip flexor problem early he could have had a higher avg. cant see huge deviation in those scores but any player can get injured or play through injuries that affect scores ..... watch out if he stays fit

Dusty just had what Leigh Matthews described as the best season of football he has ever witnessed by an individual, don't think he can back that up to be honest. Don't think Richmond will win the flag again either. Happy to sit this one out, there's just way too much value in the 520-580k bracket.
As a Tiges supporter you disappoint me Bully with all this negative talk wash your mouth out with soap  :P

Just being a realist mate, Richmond will be thereabouts but the game plan will be picked to shreds. Unless Dimma becomes the master strategist and pulls out another rabbit we'll be back with the pack. Brilliant season was 2017 but I honestly don't believe we are witnessing a dynasty.

The game plan is all based around manic pressure and tackling so I don't know how you can stop that. It's up to Richmond if they want to bring it again and are hungry enough.

On Dusty, there's a chance he drops off a little but at worst he averages 115 and will still be in the top 5 scorers in the comp. Easier to just start the players you know will be the best of the best
There's only so many top players you can fit into the salary cap though. Got to leave a couple out, and looking at Dusty's history he is most prone to through out a low score. Even during his insane back half of last season he had a 70 odd score. Preferably you'd wanna start both but if for whatever reason you can't, dusty is the most likely to fall to a reasonable price to trade in. (In my opinion)

Yes I agree I would pick Mitchell if I was choosing 1 to start. Danger, Dusty, Mitchell and Fyfe are locked for me though, I'll save money elsewhere
Yeah agreed, although I'm tossing up between dusty and Ablett cause I can't help myself.

Haha Dusty never misses games so that makes the decision easy for me

shaker

Yep I agree with Q start the best of the best Danger , Dusty , Mitchell , Fyfe plus one more and save elsewhere then see what the other spuds can produce before doing upgrades  :P

StuL

Mitchell because of consistency and the chance of Richmond doing a bulldogs. Got both atm though.

GoLions

Tmitch, but I just brought Dusty into my team yesterday as well :P