Dustin Martin or Tom Mitchell?

Started by jbjimmyjb, February 12, 2018, 10:08:26 PM

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jbjimmyjb

- Identical price and averages.
- Martin averaged 136 in his last 9 games, while Titch averaged 126 from his last 9.
- Titch had only 2 sub-100 scores all season, 85 & 98 (the 98 was due to only managing 2 handball in the entire 1st QTR). Dusty had 5 sub-100 scores, however it must be taken into account 4 of these were consecutive, rounds 4-7, and were most likely due to the quad injury he sustained in round 4 (where he only managed 54.) The fifth sub-100 score was 74, when St Kilda thrashed Richmond by 12 goals.
- Dusty had 6 scores of 150+, whereas Titch only had 2.

Ultimately, it may be my Richmond bias, but I'm leaning towards Dustin. Not only does he have a higher ceiling than Titch, but his season average was brought down by the injury niggle that obviously affected him for a few games, which makes a big difference at the rate these top players score. Although Titch does still seem a little more consistent and is younger, the form Martin was in in the back half of the season was almost as incredible as Danger's, (in fact, he beat Danger's last 9 games average, 136>133).

What are you guys' thoughts?

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Huttabito

I've had both locked since Gold Picker opened and neither have moved, once. If I was forced to pick 1, it would be T.Mitchell. He has a more friendly bye and is less likely to fluctuate in price.

Perts24

Atm i have titch and no dusty, purely because i think dusty is more likely to throw out a stinker and drop in price. Not much to split them though.

quinny88

I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

SilverLion

Titch, better bye and unbelievably consistent.

Ringo

Currently Have Titch in my side and Martin may yet find his way back into my side, (Will be between him and Crouch),

Money Shot

Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Dusty tends to be slow out of the blocks, that's been pretty regular over the years. His record against Carlton isn't jaw dropping either.

Huttabito

Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Dusty tends to be slow out of the blocks, that's been pretty regular over the years. His record against Carlton isn't jaw dropping either.
Opened with 159 (against Carlton I might add), 118 and 155 last year. Then had some niggles where he played more forward and had the issues with his father.
His game later in the season against Carlton he scored 121.

shaker

Quote from: Huttabito on February 13, 2018, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Dusty tends to be slow out of the blocks, that's been pretty regular over the years. His record against Carlton isn't jaw dropping either.
Opened with 159 (against Carlton I might add), 118 and 155 last year. Then had some niggles where he played more forward and had the issues with his father.
His game later in the season against Carlton he scored 121.
Ha ha slow out of the blocks and not flash against Carlton hit the delete button Bully  :P

hawkers65

Both, but Tom if you had to pick one <3

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 13, 2018, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on February 13, 2018, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Dusty tends to be slow out of the blocks, that's been pretty regular over the years. His record against Carlton isn't jaw dropping either.
Opened with 159 (against Carlton I might add), 118 and 155 last year. Then had some niggles where he played more forward and had the issues with his father.
His game later in the season against Carlton he scored 121.
Ha ha slow out of the blocks and not flash against Carlton hit the delete button Bully  :P

2013 - 85 & 25 & 69
2014 - 108
2015 - 51
2016 - 86
2017 - 159 & 121

Last year the outlier but still slow out of the blocks.

First 6 rounds

2013 - 85, 92, 150, 80, 115, 125
2014 - 102, 108, 84, 94, 80, 61
2015 - 51, 139, 110, 85, 113,124
2016 - 86, 134, 81, 83, 79, 127
2017 - 159, 118, 155, 54, 92, 93

So that's 650k on a guy who has failed to register triple figures in 16/30 games. The first question I asked myself is Dusty going to win the Brownlow this year? Unlikely, so what's his second highest career average? 108 with his third being 105.

Worthy of such an outlay? Not for me but go for it fellas, I'll be getting Dusty when he drops.


quinny88

Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 03:28:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 13, 2018, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on February 13, 2018, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Dusty tends to be slow out of the blocks, that's been pretty regular over the years. His record against Carlton isn't jaw dropping either.
Opened with 159 (against Carlton I might add), 118 and 155 last year. Then had some niggles where he played more forward and had the issues with his father.
His game later in the season against Carlton he scored 121.
Ha ha slow out of the blocks and not flash against Carlton hit the delete button Bully  :P

2013 - 85 & 25 & 69
2014 - 108
2015 - 51
2016 - 86
2017 - 159 & 121

Last year the outlier but still slow out of the blocks.

First 6 rounds

2013 - 85, 92, 150, 80, 115, 125
2014 - 102, 108, 84, 94, 80, 61
2015 - 51, 139, 110, 85, 113,124
2016 - 86, 134, 81, 83, 79, 127
2017 - 159, 118, 155, 54, 92, 93

So that's 650k on a guy who has failed to register triple figures in 16/30 games. The first question I asked myself is Dusty going to win the Brownlow this year? Unlikely, so what's his second highest career average? 108 with his third being 105.

Worthy of such an outlay? Not for me but go for it fellas, I'll be getting Dusty when he drops.

You're forgetting that he's just hit his prime though. It's not as if he's 30 years old and had an out of the blue season, he's been projecting this way his whole career and was only a matter of time before he became one of the top handful of players in the comp.

Weather he can pick up where he left off remains to be seen and if I was leaving 1 of the top 3 SC scorers out it would probably be him but starting all 3 is just less of a headache. If he continues on from the back half of last year he will be impossible to get in.


Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 06:40:30 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 03:28:49 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 13, 2018, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on February 13, 2018, 02:32:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 13, 2018, 01:54:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:27 AM
I tried for a while to convince myself that I didn't need to start both and I landed on Mitchell for the seemingly better consistency, but when you look at Martins scores in the back half of the year I just couldn't leave that out. Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe all locked

Dusty tends to be slow out of the blocks, that's been pretty regular over the years. His record against Carlton isn't jaw dropping either.
Opened with 159 (against Carlton I might add), 118 and 155 last year. Then had some niggles where he played more forward and had the issues with his father.
His game later in the season against Carlton he scored 121.
Ha ha slow out of the blocks and not flash against Carlton hit the delete button Bully  :P

2013 - 85 & 25 & 69
2014 - 108
2015 - 51
2016 - 86
2017 - 159 & 121

Last year the outlier but still slow out of the blocks.

First 6 rounds

2013 - 85, 92, 150, 80, 115, 125
2014 - 102, 108, 84, 94, 80, 61
2015 - 51, 139, 110, 85, 113,124
2016 - 86, 134, 81, 83, 79, 127
2017 - 159, 118, 155, 54, 92, 93

So that's 650k on a guy who has failed to register triple figures in 16/30 games. The first question I asked myself is Dusty going to win the Brownlow this year? Unlikely, so what's his second highest career average? 108 with his third being 105.

Worthy of such an outlay? Not for me but go for it fellas, I'll be getting Dusty when he drops.

You're forgetting that he's just hit his prime though. It's not as if he's 30 years old and had an out of the blue season, he's been projecting this way his whole career and was only a matter of time before he became one of the top handful of players in the comp.

Weather he can pick up where he left off remains to be seen and if I was leaving 1 of the top 3 SC scorers out it would probably be him but starting all 3 is just less of a headache. If he continues on from the back half of last year he will be impossible to get in.

Dusty just won a Brownlow with the highest vote tally in history and still only averaged 119. He's a high standard deviation player who will drop, last year he was a shade over 500k after 7 rounds. Happy to sit on the sidelines with his price being well over the odds.