Point Of Difference Players

[Ringo]

Hall could be the one to step up nut to me the problem is that he has only played one full season since debuting so he misses quite a few through injury. That and the Rd 10 bye put me off him.

[Nige]

Hall could be the one to step up nut to me the problem is that he has only played one full season since debuting so he misses quite a few through injury. That and the Rd 10 bye put me off him.

Injuries have hardly been the problem.

Started his career as one of those lively forward types and was pretty good around goal but he was inconsistent so was in and out of their side over the first few years.

Then in late 2015 he reinvented himself as a mid which is when his scoring picked up because he'd accumulate and get ball to boot heaps. Hammy injury where he missed a few weeks in 2016 and again last year.

Has become a much more consistent player, but has had a few injury affected games or ones where he just hasn't got into it.

The main knock on him has always been that his defensive efforts aren't always the best.

All that said, I think he will be one of the beneficiaries of Gaz going, but I agree with ele that Jarryd Lyons is likely to be the one to step up.

[meow meow]

Is Hall cheap? Not really.

Will Hall be one of the top 8? Nope

Is Hall worth picking? Nope

[jfitty]

Pencil Hall in for a big season in 2018, but can't see him averaging enough to be a top 15 mid.

He is one I'm targeting in SC Draft though - should average around 100-105 if he can stay on the park.

[Nige]

Josh Caddy, get on before it's too late.  8)

[Mat0369]

I was thinking of possible Danger replacements in the midfield and there is one name that kinda sticks out for me.

Rory Sloane.

He has a huge ceiling and is in 5% of teams. He is the perfect VC option with a lot of early games to start the year. He started last year on fire. Gibbs comes in to take some attention away and also possibly draw the tag. His scores last year are below

Untagged

77
146
168
124
139
140
177
91
92
140

1294 - 129.4 average

Tagged

80
70
119
89
66
80
90
50
169
36
151
130

1130 - 94.1 average

Anyone else jumping on?

[Holz]

I was thinking of possible Danger replacements in the midfield and there is one name that kinda sticks out for me.

Rory Sloane.

He has a huge ceiling and is in 5% of teams. He is the perfect VC option with a lot of early games to start the year. He started last year on fire. Gibbs comes in to take some attention away and also possibly draw the tag. His scores last year are below

Untagged

77
146
168
124
139
140
177
91
92
140

1294 - 129.4 average

Tagged

80
70
119
89
66
80
90
50
169
36
151
130

1130 - 94.1 average

Anyone else jumping on?

I cant split Matt Crouch and Sloane.

Crouch seems like he just keeps racking up the contested ball abit easier. I think Sloane is the better player of the two which means Crouch has abit more freedom.

At this stage i have Danger and Crouch. So i might consider Sloane + Crouch.

[benny_fraz]

Hall injured

[AaronKirk]

Is Hall cheap? Not really.

Will Hall be one of the top 8? Nope

Is Hall worth picking? Nope

He had surgery on a broken thumb. Will miss R1. Fair to say put a line through him.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-16/gun-mid-to-miss-r1-as-suns-injury-toll-grows

[MC]

I was thinking of possible Danger replacements in the midfield and there is one name that kinda sticks out for me.

Rory Sloane.

He has a huge ceiling and is in 5% of teams. He is the perfect VC option with a lot of early games to start the year. He started last year on fire. Gibbs comes in to take some attention away and also possibly draw the tag. His scores last year are below

Untagged

77
146
168
124
139
140
177
91
92
140

1294 - 129.4 average

Tagged

80
70
119
89
66
80
90
50
169
36
151
130

1130 - 94.1 average

Anyone else jumping on?

Gibbs and (to a lesser extent) Crouch are the accumulators, Sloane though is an absolute weapon. Why on earth would teams tag Gibbs over Sloane?

Using SC points can be difficult, though to illustrate my point, Gibbs has gone 140 or over a total of 10 times in the past 5 seasons. Sloane just about matched that last year in one. He (Gibbs) is the classic 25-30 touches for 100 SC player.

[enzedder]

I was thinking of possible Danger replacements in the midfield and there is one name that kinda sticks out for me.

Rory Sloane.

He has a huge ceiling and is in 5% of teams. He is the perfect VC option with a lot of early games to start the year. He started last year on fire. Gibbs comes in to take some attention away and also possibly draw the tag. His scores last year are below

Untagged

77
146
168
124
139
140
177
91
92
140

1294 - 129.4 average

Tagged

80
70
119
89
66
80
90
50
169
36
151
130

1130 - 94.1 average

Anyone else jumping on?

Good numbers and hard to say he's a bad pick. I can understand why he'd be considered a good Danger replacement and I'd be worried about playing teams with him in them (as a POD against mine) but personally all those rollercoaster downers put me off him. If you have him from the start and go for overall, he'll likely average well and will be a good pick. I just prefer those who have less 60-80s. His ceiling is amazing though.

[RaisyDaisy]

Rory has a massive ceiling, but it can't be a coincidence that from Round 11 to the GF he only had 4 tons (albeit massive tons) and 10 scores under 100, while at that exact same time Matt Crouch only went under 100 once!

15 games for 14 tons vs 14 games for 4 tons

Crouch took over

The fact that he can't handle a tag is secondary

Sloane will always pump the odd monster score and it sucks when your opponent has him on those days, but with Matt Crouch taking things to the next level, Brad, Bryce etc he will still be first tag and I don't think he will go above 110 this year, but who knows - contract talks seem to get players to play out of their skin :P

[dmac07]

My most unique player now is Lycett at 4%.

No one else under 10, but a pair of gun mids at 11% each.

[Mat0369]

Gibbs and (to a lesser extent) Crouch are the accumulators, Sloane though is an absolute weapon. Why on earth would teams tag Gibbs over Sloane?

Using SC points can be difficult, though to illustrate my point, Gibbs has gone 140 or over a total of 10 times in the past 5 seasons. Sloane just about matched that last year in one. He (Gibbs) is the classic 25-30 touches for 100 SC player.

People forget how good Bryce really is because Carlton have been putrid the last few years. He can win games carrying a team, is damaging with his disposal and hits the scoreboard. There was one game last year I believe he hit the double ton. He also averages something crazy like 120+ in a winning side. Teams started sending the tag his way in the 2nd half of the season over Murphy when he was at Carlton. Teams will tag him at some point if he gets off the leash, or at least make it difficult to decide between him and Sloane.

Good numbers and hard to say he's a bad pick. I can understand why he'd be considered a good Danger replacement and I'd be worried about playing teams with him in them (as a POD against mine) but personally all those rollercoaster downers put me off him. If you have him from the start and go for overall, he'll likely average well and will be a good pick. I just prefer those who have less 60-80s. His ceiling is amazing though.

The low scores when tagged is what's the killer. I don't think he really faces any stiff opposition early in terms of taggers. Like you said, starting with him could help ease the roller coaster and he could give you some monsters with the VC on him.

Rory has a massive ceiling, but it can't be a coincidence that from Round 11 to the GF he only had 4 tons (albeit massive tons) and 10 scores under 100, while at that exact same time Matt Crouch only went under 100 once!

15 games for 14 tons vs 14 games for 4 tons

Crouch took over

The fact that he can't handle a tag is secondary

Sloane will always pump the odd monster score and it sucks when your opponent has him on those days, but with Matt Crouch taking things to the next level, Brad, Bryce etc he will still be first tag and I don't think he will go above 110 this year, but who knows - contract talks seem to get players to play out of their skin :P

I still believe it had to do more with a tag than a Crouch. There is room in a midfield for two and three stud SC players. If you look at Sloane's big scores at the back end you also have Crouch up there with some good ones. I think Crouch is going to give you your JPK style consistent scores where Sloane  is just going to destroy teams one week and stink it up a couple weeks later. Consistency is good, but Sloane gives you a VC option, especially if you're not starting Danger.

[quinny88]

Good numbers and hard to say he's a bad pick. I can understand why he'd be considered a good Danger replacement and I'd be worried about playing teams with him in them (as a POD against mine) but personally all those rollercoaster downers put me off him. If you have him from the start and go for overall, he'll likely average well and will be a good pick. I just prefer those who have less 60-80s. His ceiling is amazing though.

The low scores when tagged is what's the killer. I don't think he really faces any stiff opposition early in terms of taggers. Like you said, starting with him could help ease the roller coaster and he could give you some monsters with the VC on him.

Jack Graham in round 2 might do a number on him again  ;)