Bully's Boys 2018

Started by Bully, January 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM

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Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2018, 06:03:47 PM
You've been pretty adamant that there wouldn't be many def rookies

Looks like you've had a change of heart?

To be honest Raisy I still feel the rookies in defense are dicey but the options in the forward line are considerably worse. I don't particularly like W.Rioli, L.Ryan, Venables or even Garlett. Higgins was the great white hope but seems Dimma will give the jumper to Bolton in round 1. Can roll the dice with 1 of these guys but not 2.

In defence I'm banking on 2 of Murray, Doedee, Cumming, Hibberd or Coffield. Need some rebounders in there. O'Shea's last 2 seasons have yielded an average in the 50's which doesn't fill me with huge confidence, don't like his JS either. Keefe is another not worth fielding. Last year we had an abundance of good scorers like Otten, Marchbank, McGrath & Hampton.

The big worry for me is Birch, my back-up will be downgrading Coniglio to Griffen & upgrading Birch to Shaw. Not ideal but not the worst case scenario. 

RaisyDaisy

Sounds like a good plan

I've gone with Ahern at F5 for the time being and then 3 of Venables/Garlett/Ryan/Rioli/Kirby etc can fill out F6-8. I'm sure we'll probably have an unexpected one pop up too to help out

Jordan Dawson from the Swans is a sneaky chance too

Either way I'm relatively confident that we can get 4 forward rookies come round 1, albeit there could be several J.Pickett type spuds in that batch


SilverLion

Great side. Sacrificing a second 600k+ player allowed you to bat deep in all lines.

shaker

There you go Bully 7 gun mid down to 6 team looks better already Higgins out surprised being a Tigers man you had not heard that he would not be lining up round 1 now you have only Cyril a problem in the FWD's with the club saying that he won't be rushed and he is miles behind the other players maybe Ah Chee I have him at F5 looks a good chance to line up R1

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
There you go Bully 7 gun mid down to 6 team looks better already Higgins out surprised being a Tigers man you had not heard that he would not be lining up round 1 now you have only Cyril a problem in the FWD's with the club saying that he won't be rushed and he is miles behind the other players maybe Ah Chee I have him at F5 looks a good chance to line up R1

Have been following Higgins progress in intra club matches and he is ready, will get games this year. With D,Rioli out the position is still vacant but looks as though Bolton is the man given Dimma's recent comment in the podcast. Coaches often hose down expectation with the juniors, it's a bit like the LDU situation, 42% of coaches still have him in their side despite Scott stating he will be eased in.

As for a Rioli replacement, will look at Deledio if he's back in defence, might even downgrade Coniglio to Griffen and upgrade Rioli to a premo.   


shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
There you go Bully 7 gun mid down to 6 team looks better already Higgins out surprised being a Tigers man you had not heard that he would not be lining up round 1 now you have only Cyril a problem in the FWD's with the club saying that he won't be rushed and he is miles behind the other players maybe Ah Chee I have him at F5 looks a good chance to line up R1

Have been following Higgins progress in intra club matches and he is ready, will get games this year. With D,Rioli out the position is still vacant but looks as though Bolton is the man given Dimma's recent comment in the podcast. Coaches often hose down expectation with the juniors, it's a bit like the LDU situation, 42% of coaches still have him in their side despite Scott stating he will be eased in.

As for a Rioli replacement, will look at Deledio if he's back in defence, might even downgrade Coniglio to Griffen and upgrade Rioli to a premo.   


Keeping an eye on Lids myself you know he can score well just needs to string some games together and he is cheap

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
There you go Bully 7 gun mid down to 6 team looks better already Higgins out surprised being a Tigers man you had not heard that he would not be lining up round 1 now you have only Cyril a problem in the FWD's with the club saying that he won't be rushed and he is miles behind the other players maybe Ah Chee I have him at F5 looks a good chance to line up R1

Have been following Higgins progress in intra club matches and he is ready, will get games this year. With D,Rioli out the position is still vacant but looks as though Bolton is the man given Dimma's recent comment in the podcast. Coaches often hose down expectation with the juniors, it's a bit like the LDU situation, 42% of coaches still have him in their side despite Scott stating he will be eased in.

As for a Rioli replacement, will look at Deledio if he's back in defence, might even downgrade Coniglio to Griffen and upgrade Rioli to a premo.   


Keeping an eye on Lids myself you know he can score well just needs to string some games together and he is cheap

Definitely on the watch list, given he didn't have a preseason last year one cannot judge too harshly. This year he's been expertly managed and I suspect he'll be hungry given he sold out on a premiership team. Apparently Lids hasn't watched the GF yet, obviously still gut wrenching given he chose to walk out.

The big curiosity for me will be these elusive kick-outs for GWS, this will shape my final side. Could even include all of Griffen, Shaw & Lids to hedge the bets.

shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
There you go Bully 7 gun mid down to 6 team looks better already Higgins out surprised being a Tigers man you had not heard that he would not be lining up round 1 now you have only Cyril a problem in the FWD's with the club saying that he won't be rushed and he is miles behind the other players maybe Ah Chee I have him at F5 looks a good chance to line up R1

Have been following Higgins progress in intra club matches and he is ready, will get games this year. With D,Rioli out the position is still vacant but looks as though Bolton is the man given Dimma's recent comment in the podcast. Coaches often hose down expectation with the juniors, it's a bit like the LDU situation, 42% of coaches still have him in their side despite Scott stating he will be eased in.

As for a Rioli replacement, will look at Deledio if he's back in defence, might even downgrade Coniglio to Griffen and upgrade Rioli to a premo.   


Keeping an eye on Lids myself you know he can score well just needs to string some games together and he is cheap

Definitely on the watch list, given he didn't have a preseason last year one cannot judge too harshly. This year he's been expertly managed and I suspect he'll be hungry given he sold out on a premiership team. Apparently Lids hasn't watched the GF yet, obviously still gut wrenching given he chose to walk out.

The big curiosity for me will be these elusive kick-outs for GWS, this will shape my final side. Could even include all of Griffen, Shaw & Lids to hedge the bets.
Think it was more a mutual agreement between Lids and the Tiges thinking he was in with a chance for a flag only to miss most of the year then have the team he spent his whole career with win the flag must of been gut wrenching for him but them's the breaks and even after his horror year he still came back and averaged 77.3 in the 4 games he played with no real touch or match fitness definitely one to watch

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 15, 2018, 09:27:50 AM
There you go Bully 7 gun mid down to 6 team looks better already Higgins out surprised being a Tigers man you had not heard that he would not be lining up round 1 now you have only Cyril a problem in the FWD's with the club saying that he won't be rushed and he is miles behind the other players maybe Ah Chee I have him at F5 looks a good chance to line up R1

Have been following Higgins progress in intra club matches and he is ready, will get games this year. With D,Rioli out the position is still vacant but looks as though Bolton is the man given Dimma's recent comment in the podcast. Coaches often hose down expectation with the juniors, it's a bit like the LDU situation, 42% of coaches still have him in their side despite Scott stating he will be eased in.

As for a Rioli replacement, will look at Deledio if he's back in defence, might even downgrade Coniglio to Griffen and upgrade Rioli to a premo.   


Keeping an eye on Lids myself you know he can score well just needs to string some games together and he is cheap

Definitely on the watch list, given he didn't have a preseason last year one cannot judge too harshly. This year he's been expertly managed and I suspect he'll be hungry given he sold out on a premiership team. Apparently Lids hasn't watched the GF yet, obviously still gut wrenching given he chose to walk out.

The big curiosity for me will be these elusive kick-outs for GWS, this will shape my final side. Could even include all of Griffen, Shaw & Lids to hedge the bets.
Think it was more a mutual agreement between Lids and the Tiges thinking he was in with a chance for a flag only to miss most of the year then have the team he spent his whole career with win the flag must of been gut wrenching for him but them's the breaks and even after his horror year he still came back and averaged 77.3 in the 4 games he played with no real touch or match fitness definitely one to watch

Deledio made the first move & Richmond played ball. I think the hierachy knew that his calves were becoming increasingly more problematic & were ultimately pleased to get a first rounder (which eventually became Coleman-Jones & Noah Balta).

As for his scoring potential, you'd expect a return to the 90s if he can play that rebounding role, definitely some keeper potential there. He did look a tad bit slow in his 7 matches but again, limited preseason can do that. 

Bully

So that latest news is Rioli is well behind the eightball & Lobb is only 50/50 to make the cut. Did some research on Lids and he's only training once a week. Options are now thin in the forward line, the only other guy I want is Heeney but that means injecting a fair amount of risk into my squad. Hibberd to Shaw, Sauce to Nic Nat. Have also been forced to run with Olango at R3, this will have to be my loophole option. The new addition in the rookie department is Bailey, loved his game in the All-Stars match and could see him in something of a rebounder position.


Money Shot

Love this team as it just screams value picks.

Laird/Danger/Heeney/Billings are the only 4 players that I think will drop in price in this team and they could all be in the top of there positions come seasons end.

All the others are a really good chance of going up in price and therefore are underpriced. this allows you to get 15 players that I Would consider as premiums compared to most teams with 13/14.

Although it may be a little low on fire power with no Dusty/Titch etc. you definitely make up for it with the extra premium.

Great job.

Ringo

Like it and trust you have some plans for Rd 10 with Hanley and Boak having the bye.

Also consider one of Garlett or Ahern for mids to open up DPP - Boak to Dusty could be nice prior to Rd 10.

Love Bailey and just hope he gets the nod for Rd 1 but quite a bit of competition for a place.

Nige

Looks kinda ballsy to me mate, but I like that it's kinda different to a fair chunk of the teams rolling through these parts.

Really like the Zac Bailey pick. From all reports he's looking good but cracking the Lions midfield and maintaining the spot might be an ask.

Not sure what to make of Boak either. You're one of the very few I've seen stick him in. What in particular elevates him above other choices for you?

RaisyDaisy

I know rookies are just place holders for now, but after watching Fagan's AMA I got the impression that Bailey won't be playing early on

Could be wrong though

I like the structure of your team and I am looking at something similar myself but I do feel like quite a lot of your prems carry some sort of risk

Bully

Quote from: Ringo on February 16, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
Like it and trust you have some plans for Rd 10 with Hanley and Boak having the bye.

Also consider one of Garlett or Ahern for mids to open up DPP - Boak to Dusty could be nice prior to Rd 10.

Love Bailey and just hope he gets the nod for Rd 1 but quite a bit of competition for a place.

Not too fussed about the round 10 bye, will get the cover in there & Boak can be swung to the mids. Will switch one of the DPP guys up in due course, just feel there's more value with the rookie mids and Garlett & Ahern are probably the best bets in the forward line. These players can be switched once the season is under way with a few deft trades. Bailey may not even be competing for a midfield spot, he should have been given DPP to be honest, prototype rebouding defender whose style reminds me of Hanley.

Quote from: Nige on February 16, 2018, 05:30:39 PM
Looks kinda ballsy to me mate, but I like that it's kinda different to a fair chunk of the teams rolling through these parts.

Really like the Zac Bailey pick. From all reports he's looking good but cracking the Lions midfield and maintaining the spot might be an ask.

Not sure what to make of Boak either. You're one of the very few I've seen stick him in. What in particular elevates him above other choices for you?

There has to be some risk in there to get a jump on the crowd. From my perspective Shaw & Naitanui are the real worries but there's always some method to the madness. Shaw has been put on light duties to freshen him up, that to me is a signal he's ready to resume chief rebounding duties. There is of course a threat from Griffen & Deledio but at his price it's a risk worth taking. I'm taking some heart in the fact his last game yielded 119 points.

Naitanui has now been sidelined for 18 months, West Coast have obviously taken a very cautious approach and given they have just elevated him to the leadership group tells me he's hit all his KPI's in rehab. I'm not expecting the world but I think 100 isn't out of the question, will watch his progress in the JLT but even a modest 80 and some noticeable mobility will seal the deal. None of the other ruckmen fill me with that much confidence. Was even considering Goldy at this position which tells a tale.

I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

As for Coniglio at M6, I'm very bullish he can be a keeper. Right age to take the next step and he delivered two big tons in the finals, surely a sign he's ready to lift his ceiling. The other stat that perked me up was the fact he's hit 20 touches in every game bar two since the start of the 2016 season. I think this will be his break out year.

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 16, 2018, 06:19:04 PM
I know rookies are just place holders for now, but after watching Fagan's AMA I got the impression that Bailey won't be playing early on

Could be wrong though

I like the structure of your team and I am looking at something similar myself but I do feel like quite a lot of your prems carry some sort of risk

I think Fagan was on record as stating that Bailey has done everything right thus far, we've also seen he rewards players who meet KPI's, Schache was on the receiving end of some tough love when he didn't reach the benchmarks.

There's definite risk in my squad but picking maxed out guys like Dusty & TMitch isn't the way to go in my opinion. Someone like Bont has similar returns but not in a calender year. Think I posted that his average from round 7, 2016 to round 6, 2017 was 122, Cripps is dirt cheap for what he is capable of & Beams really stormed home last year after his head knock.