Bully's Boys 2018

Started by Bully, January 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM

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Adamant

Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.

GoLions

Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Bully

Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.

Interesting, he did mention just about everyone however, seemed to be focused on overall depth with the HFF/Mid role. Still think he's a good bet, had a really slow start but seemed to run into good form towards the end. Just for some splits.

Rounds 1-14

Avg - 80
100+ = 1
80-99 =5
60-79 =6
>59 = 1

Rounds 15-23 (+final)

Avg - 92
100+ = 3
80-99 = 6
60-79 = 0
>59 = 1

So in the end it would seem that Boak is still on a bit of a learning curve in the role however the last 10 games have shown a sizable improvement. I'm tipping an average somewhere in the 90-100 range.

Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Rocky is a hard one to predict, but it's fair to say he's just as capable as Boak. I think all of Gray, Wingard, Boak & Rocky will share the load fairly equitably.

GoLions

Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Rocky is a hard one to predict, but it's fair to say he's just as capable as Boak. I think all of Gray, Wingard, Boak & Rocky will share the load fairly equitably.
Which is pretty much why I'm not starting any of them (along with their bye) :p

Bully

Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Rocky is a hard one to predict, but it's fair to say he's just as capable as Boak. I think all of Gray, Wingard, Boak & Rocky will share the load fairly equitably.
Which is pretty much why I'm not starting any of them (along with their bye) :p

The other guy I'd consider here is Walters, averaged 109 from rounds 7-17 (and then got injured in round 18). Any Freo supporters have inside word on his midfield prospects & general health?

Adamant

Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Rocky is a hard one to predict, but it's fair to say he's just as capable as Boak. I think all of Gray, Wingard, Boak & Rocky will share the load fairly equitably.
Which is pretty much why I'm not starting any of them (along with their bye) :p

The other guy I'd consider here is Walters, averaged 109 from rounds 7-17 (and then got injured in round 18). Any Freo supporters have inside word on his midfield prospects & general health?

Son Son came back to pre-season early and has been in full training since the start of December so no issues with the body.

Like most AFL coaches, RTB is big on players being able to play multiple roles, hence why we saw Blakely play off half-back, Mundy as a 3rd tall forward, Tucker at half-forward etc. Coupled with the fact that we already have Fyfe, Neale, Hill bros, Langdon, as well as Brayshaw, Cerra, North and Crowden coming through and it's impossible to see him ever becoming a full-time midfielder. He's our most dangerous forward by far so he'll be required down there more often than not which means he'll have games where he sits in a pocket and scores 40. I'd only be picking him if one of our established midfielders went down with a LTI.

Ringo

Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Rocky is a hard one to predict, but it's fair to say he's just as capable as Boak. I think all of Gray, Wingard, Boak & Rocky will share the load fairly equitably.
Which is pretty much why I'm not starting any of them (along with their bye) :p

The other guy I'd consider here is Walters, averaged 109 from rounds 7-17 (and then got injured in round 18). Any Freo supporters have inside word on his midfield prospects & general health?
Not sure whether this helps but in doing some research on Walters Freo have 7 of the first 12 games at the new stadium in Perth. So virtually at home.

Bully

Quote from: Ringo on February 16, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: GoLions on February 16, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Adamant on February 16, 2018, 06:50:14 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 16, 2018, 06:30:45 PM
I'm actually quite staggered that Boak has been largely forgotten. His best is 105 and his floor has typically been 90. Last year he played forward but with Rockliff now at the club you'd expect him back in the middle. He's also club captain so there's plenty of pride at stake. From round 15 last year there was only one score under 80 which is exactly the type of consistency I'm after.

Was pretty keen on Trav myself but he has said himself that he will be playing the same HFF role as last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Q0mF3-Thg - about 1:21 in.

Boak's best attribute is his ability to gut run and link up on the outside, where as Rocky is a contested beast without the same polish so it makes sense that Trav will be the one that spends more time up forward. He's a better player than his 85 average but with those comments and Port's early bye, everything just screams upgrade target for mine.
Also, regarding Rocky, he spent heaps of time forward last year because he was injured. If he is fit, he plays mostly in the mids surely.

Rocky is a hard one to predict, but it's fair to say he's just as capable as Boak. I think all of Gray, Wingard, Boak & Rocky will share the load fairly equitably.
Which is pretty much why I'm not starting any of them (along with their bye) :p

The other guy I'd consider here is Walters, averaged 109 from rounds 7-17 (and then got injured in round 18). Any Freo supporters have inside word on his midfield prospects & general health?
Not sure whether this helps but in doing some research on Walters Freo have 7 of the first 12 games at the new stadium in Perth. So virtually at home.

Doesn't appear to be a huge factor, averaged 17 touches at 1.7 goals at home, 21 touches & 0.9 goals away. Just read that he looked pretty good in the intra-club game and was BOG along with Fyfe. Must admit I'm tempted, some of his numbers were really impressive last year and he broke the 30 possession mark for the first time in his career. Haven't yet ruled him out.

Bully


shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 17, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
https://www.facebook.com/doctorsupercoach/posts/1515166271885136

Walters set for more midfield time according to Freo midfield coach.
Nah can score good in the mids but can still throw 40's,50's, 60's playing there as well plus low scores if he goes FWD ..... look up rollercoaster in the dictionary and there is a picture of Walters

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 17, 2018, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 17, 2018, 01:09:02 PM
https://www.facebook.com/doctorsupercoach/posts/1515166271885136

Walters set for more midfield time according to Freo midfield coach.
Nah can score good in the mids but can still throw 40's,50's, 60's playing there as well plus low scores if he goes FWD ..... look up rollercoaster in the dictionary and there is a picture of Walters

119
137
135
49
81
95
105
172
106
88
47 (season ending knee injury just after halftime)

That's pretty solid from where I'm sitting. And this from the intra-club game.

FREMANTLE

Media was only allowed to watch 10 minutes of the Dockers’ intra-club clash on Friday. But it only took 10 minutes for No. 2 pick Andrew Brayshaw to catch the eye.

Brayshaw, the brother of Melbourne’s Angus Brayshaw, began the contest in the midfield and lined up on Brownlow Medallist Nat Fyfe. He racked up plenty of touches too, with his temperament in close impressing onlookers.

Still, Fyfe looked ominous, as did Michael Walters, who played mostly in the midfield.

A fit looking Aaron Sandilands dominated with Sean Darcy absent, while Connor Blakely could be set for more time in defence this season.

Stephen Hill and Hayden Ballantyne didn’t play.

Bully

#71
Update on the intra club game today at Punt Road, all the usual suspects dominating but one surprise, Mabior Chol took ruck honours from Nank and kicked a couple of sausage rolls. Freak athlete and could be a sneaky chance for a round 1 (if preferred to Soldo), jumped a phenomenal 334cm in the standing vertical. Isn't listed as a ruck this year for some strange reason.



shaker

Entering his 10th season best avg. 88 and correction Bully he did his knee in the last 1/4 score 47 I looked him up there is also a 49 playing mids and a 28 playing FWD for 478K he is all your mate  ;)

Ricochet

Quote from: Bully on February 17, 2018, 02:49:48 PM
Still, Fyfe looked ominous, as did Michael Walters, who played mostly in the midfield.
Intraclub though Bully, with the mids obviously spread across 2 teams. Wait and see what he does in JLT, increased time in there isn't out of the question but personally I'd expect similar minutes as last year. We'll look to give more midfield time to guys like Tucker and the draftees.

Bully

#74
Quote from: shaker on February 17, 2018, 03:33:50 PM
Entering his 10th season best avg. 88 and correction Bully he did his knee in the last 1/4 score 47 I looked him up there is also a 49 playing mids and a 28 playing FWD for 478K he is all your mate  ;)

Correction, 2 minutes in the final quarter was when the injury occurred.

Quote from: Ricochet on February 17, 2018, 03:35:20 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 17, 2018, 02:49:48 PM
Still, Fyfe looked ominous, as did Michael Walters, who played mostly in the midfield.
Intraclub though Bully, with the mids obviously spread across 2 teams. Wait and see what he does in JLT, increased time in there isn't out of the question but personally I'd expect similar minutes as last year. We'll look to give more midfield time to guys like Tucker and the draftees.

Similar minutes is fine, the numbers he put up are as good as Heeney & Billings in that 10 match stretch. Have also heard that Matera will fill the small forward void. So in summary -

*averaged 109 prior to injury once in the mids
*midfield coach has stated he'll be spending more time in the middle
*still reasonably priced for his potential output
*preseason form solid
*Matera specifically recruited for the small forward role
*has largely had an uninterrupted preseason
*good bye round
*priced nicely so can downgrade to Boak, Petracca, Smith,Barlow, Lobb, Stringer etc. if a correction trade is required