Bully's Boys 2018

Started by Bully, January 28, 2018, 07:32:11 PM

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fasttrack13

Fair call on brayshaw... Probably the one thing that none of those guys have in common with brayshaw is that he has the supercoach big 3; DE%, CP and tackles already in his first year. He accumulates as well. Similar with Rayner v Christensen.

Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
My concern would be more that those rookies don't play though or are dropped early. Murphy a very slim chance of lining up round 1, Barry the same and Banfield may be holding a spot until the Hill brothers return. Those ontop of Keefe who is a 50/50 and Olango who won't play and cash generation/bench cover could dry up very quickly. If they are all named then it's worth a shot and you will be flying in the early rounds

Murphy is being heavily underrated i feel, has shown plenty and has probably jumped a lot of the guys who were favoured before JLT. Plus with Goldsack going down it really helps Mihocek (Somehow pies need to cover goldsack up fwd). Darcy Moore could be swung back forward to cover the sack.

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
My concern would be more that those rookies don't play though or are dropped early. Murphy a very slim chance of lining up round 1, Barry the same and Banfield may be holding a spot until the Hill brothers return. Those ontop of Keefe who is a 50/50 and Olango who won't play and cash generation/bench cover could dry up very quickly. If they are all named then it's worth a shot and you will be flying in the early rounds

Always a risk but at least the guys I have picked are mature-agers and not first year players. Barry I'm hoping will be Impey replacement, Banfield should get games ahead of the likes of Pearce. I'm pretty sure Ross will be pumping plenty of games into the youngsters. As mentioned before, if I need a guy like Naughton in there I will probably go Kelly to Beams.

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
My concern would be more that those rookies don't play though or are dropped early. Murphy a very slim chance of lining up round 1, Barry the same and Banfield may be holding a spot until the Hill brothers return. Those ontop of Keefe who is a 50/50 and Olango who won't play and cash generation/bench cover could dry up very quickly. If they are all named then it's worth a shot and you will be flying in the early rounds

Always a risk but at least the guys I have picked are mature-agers and not first year players. Barry I'm hoping will be Impey replacement, Banfield should get games ahead of the likes of Pearce. I'm pretty sure Ross will be pumping plenty of games into the youngsters. As mentioned before, if I need a guy like Naughton in there I will probably go Kelly to Beams.

Yeah you’ll need the expensive rookies

Bully

Quote from: eaglesman on March 15, 2018, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 15, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 15, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
My concern would be more that those rookies don't play though or are dropped early. Murphy a very slim chance of lining up round 1, Barry the same and Banfield may be holding a spot until the Hill brothers return. Those ontop of Keefe who is a 50/50 and Olango who won't play and cash generation/bench cover could dry up very quickly. If they are all named then it's worth a shot and you will be flying in the early rounds

Always a risk but at least the guys I have picked are mature-agers and not first year players. Barry I'm hoping will be Impey replacement, Banfield should get games ahead of the likes of Pearce. I'm pretty sure Ross will be pumping plenty of games into the youngsters. As mentioned before, if I need a guy like Naughton in there I will probably go Kelly to Beams.

Yeah you’ll need the expensive rookies

Maybe, Mihocek another who could slot in at D8. Have already decided to pick Keeffe whether selected or not, willing to sacrifice some money to get a DPP link and work the loophole.

duffercoat

As a Port supporter I don't see how Barry plays round 1 if all of Boak, Rockliff and Powell-Pepper are right to go. With all the recruitments over the off season we've effectively had 4 mid/fwds come in (Motlop. Watts, Rocklff, Barry) and only lost Impey and Trengove/Ah Chee neither who played in our final last year.

Looking at our final side last year, Rockliff, Watts and Motlop come in for Impey, Marshall and Neade and then there's no more fringe players to take out of the team. Pittard is replaced by Jonas and that still leaves Hombsch out of the team when he could easily replace a Howard, Bonner or Houston when he's at his best. I simply don't see a spot for Barry until there are injuries.

HappyDEZ

Quote from: duffercoat on March 15, 2018, 10:55:35 PM
As a Port supporter I don't see how Barry plays round 1 if all of Boak, Rockliff and Powell-Pepper are right to go. With all the recruitments over the off season we've effectively had 4 mid/fwds come in (Motlop. Watts, Rocklff, Barry) and only lost Impey and Trengove/Ah Chee neither who played in our final last year.

Looking at our final side last year, Rockliff, Watts and Motlop come in for Impey, Marshall and Neade and then there's no more fringe players to take out of the team. Pittard is replaced by Jonas and that still leaves Hombsch out of the team when he could easily replace a Howard, Bonner or Houston when he's at his best. I simply don't see a spot for Barry until there are injuries.
I reckon Amon comes into this conversation. I think the spot is his to lose but his name may well be right next to Doms when the match committee convenes.

eaglesman

Quote from: HappyDEZ on March 16, 2018, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: duffercoat on March 15, 2018, 10:55:35 PM
As a Port supporter I don't see how Barry plays round 1 if all of Boak, Rockliff and Powell-Pepper are right to go. With all the recruitments over the off season we've effectively had 4 mid/fwds come in (Motlop. Watts, Rocklff, Barry) and only lost Impey and Trengove/Ah Chee neither who played in our final last year.

Looking at our final side last year, Rockliff, Watts and Motlop come in for Impey, Marshall and Neade and then there's no more fringe players to take out of the team. Pittard is replaced by Jonas and that still leaves Hombsch out of the team when he could easily replace a Howard, Bonner or Houston when he's at his best. I simply don't see a spot for Barry until there are injuries.
I reckon Amon comes into this conversation. I think the spot is his to lose but his name may well be right next to Doms when the match committee convenes.

It would take injuries for Barry to play the first 3 imo

Bully

Quote from: eaglesman on March 16, 2018, 12:49:50 AM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on March 16, 2018, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: duffercoat on March 15, 2018, 10:55:35 PM
As a Port supporter I don't see how Barry plays round 1 if all of Boak, Rockliff and Powell-Pepper are right to go. With all the recruitments over the off season we've effectively had 4 mid/fwds come in (Motlop. Watts, Rocklff, Barry) and only lost Impey and Trengove/Ah Chee neither who played in our final last year.

Looking at our final side last year, Rockliff, Watts and Motlop come in for Impey, Marshall and Neade and then there's no more fringe players to take out of the team. Pittard is replaced by Jonas and that still leaves Hombsch out of the team when he could easily replace a Howard, Bonner or Houston when he's at his best. I simply don't see a spot for Barry until there are injuries.
I reckon Amon comes into this conversation. I think the spot is his to lose but his name may well be right next to Doms when the match committee convenes.

It would take injuries for Barry to play the first 3 imo

No problem in comes Langdon or Garlett.

Bully

FINAL TEAM REVEAL (DANGER IN!)



Defence

No real PODs here, Savage is at 9% so could be considered unique. The reason I've opted him over Lloyd is their relative ceilings. Lloyd struggles to score over 120 whilst Savage has the ability to go 140+, 7 tons in his last 10 games (including JLT) tells me he's in red hot form. Like others have suggested Savage is a beautiful kick and will be used as the chief distributer.

Still not quite sold on Naughton but another Adams injury just about seals his selection. Will consider Cole or O'Shea if named. Doedee takes the E most weeks & Keeffe will be my loophole man. If any cheap rookie in the backs or forwards makes a compelling case for selection I'll use a correction trade, otherwise I'm perfectly content to lose a bit of cash.

Mids

Deep with a secret weapon by the name of Dangerfield. Now at 21% which is understandable given the circumstances but will be a huge advantage when relying on C duties. Will loop Holman and hopefully get a half decent score, if it's dreadful I may even bring in Selwood for a week or 2, will assess that at the time. I like my Kelly selection, most people have TMitch & Dusty but I will be hoping they get off to slow starts. Armitage gets the nod ahead of JOM, his early draw just a little bit more enticing. Have Garlett in the mids to create a midfield link, with pickett going down I think he's a certainty.

Rucks

Gawn at 60% ownership, Goldy at 5%. Unbelievable considering Goldy has a 128 season to his name. Not worried about Preuss, I reckon his chances are slim at best to dislodge Goldy from the top spot.

Forwards

Billings picks himself. Devon Smith is slightly risky but he'll be in the guts for most of the year so I expect 90+ most weeks. Sicily is my swingman & donut maker, Lobb shuld be first ruck & lead the comp for HOTAs in 2017, contested marking is also a feature and ranked number 2 at GWS last year. Cyril is my wildcard, reckon he can become a keeper which is why I picked him ahead of Bundy. Rookies maybe subject to change but will assess when teams are announced. Haven't ruled out Venables either.

ubeaut

Nice spread of cash.
Deep on every line apart from backs but u have Sicily to swing there if needed.
If Libba,Armo,Rioli and Lobb get off to good starts so will you.
I feel like you're missing a gun mid and fwd (Dusty,Titch,Crouch,Buddy,Heeney,Greene) with all of Libba,Conigs,Armo,Lobb,Sicily,Rioli.
I can understand these picks but all together may be a midpricer or two too many.
Apart from that I like all the picks and is a well balanced line up.

Money Shot

very interesting team, if all mid price selections pay off you will be laughing but it is more than likely a couple will fail which is why i would be inclined to dropping a couple and getting an extra premium/rookie in the side. However on there own merits all mid pricers are a good chance of paying off.

Ringo

Like the team and reasoning.  However I think you may need another super premo in there,  Most teams will have 2 of Dusty, Danger or Titch may pay off but your decision.

fasttrack13

Quote from: Ringo on March 19, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
Like the team and reasoning.  However I think you may need another super premo in there,  Most teams will have 2 of Dusty, Danger or Titch may pay off but your decision.

Yes and no... I feel there's 3 of the top 5 scorers. Apart from danger being no.1 Dusty, Titch, Kelly and Fyfe's rank is up for grabs. Obviously would like one more

SilverLion

Quote from: Bully on March 17, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
FINAL TEAM REVEAL (DANGER IN!)



Defence

No real PODs here, Savage is at 9% so could be considered unique. The reason I've opted him over Lloyd is their relative ceilings. Lloyd struggles to score over 120 whilst Savage has the ability to go 140+, 7 tons in his last 10 games (including JLT) tells me he's in red hot form. Like others have suggested Savage is a beautiful kick and will be used as the chief distributer.

Still not quite sold on Naughton but another Adams injury just about seals his selection. Will consider Cole or O'Shea if named. Doedee takes the E most weeks & Keeffe will be my loophole man. If any cheap rookie in the backs or forwards makes a compelling case for selection I'll use a correction trade, otherwise I'm perfectly content to lose a bit of cash.

Mids

Deep with a secret weapon by the name of Dangerfield. Now at 21% which is understandable given the circumstances but will be a huge advantage when relying on C duties. Will loop Holman and hopefully get a half decent score, if it's dreadful I may even bring in Selwood for a week or 2, will assess that at the time. I like my Kelly selection, most people have TMitch & Dusty but I will be hoping they get off to slow starts. Armitage gets the nod ahead of JOM, his early draw just a little bit more enticing. Have Garlett in the mids to create a midfield link, with pickett going down I think he's a certainty.

Rucks

Gawn at 60% ownership, Goldy at 5%. Unbelievable considering Goldy has a 128 season to his name. Not worried about Preuss, I reckon his chances are slim at best to dislodge Goldy from the top spot.

Forwards

Billings picks himself. Devon Smith is slightly risky but he'll be in the guts for most of the year so I expect 90+ most weeks. Sicily is my swingman & donut maker, Lobb shuld be first ruck & lead the comp for HOTAs in 2017, contested marking is also a feature and ranked number 2 at GWS last year. Cyril is my wildcard, reckon he can become a keeper which is why I picked him ahead of Bundy. Rookies maybe subject to change but will assess when teams are announced. Haven't ruled out Venables either.

Nice side, batting deep in all lines at the expense of Martin and Mitchell. Midfield risky, but could pay off. Defence and Rucks are great. Would probably go Christensen/Bell ahead of Rioli but thats just personal preference.

Nice team to sit and wait on until the teams are announced.

Bully

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Quote from: Money Shot on March 19, 2018, 08:34:04 AM
very interesting team, if all mid price selections pay off you will be laughing but it is more than likely a couple will fail which is why i would be inclined to dropping a couple and getting an extra premium/rookie in the side. However on there own merits all mid pricers are a good chance of paying off.

Have done the number crunching and this combo has more odds of succeeding than a guns & rookies strategy.

Points - Coniglio (105) + Libba (95) = 200
            Dusty (120) + Brayshaw (75) = 195

Money - Coniglio (75k) + Libba (50k) = 125k
             Dusty (-50k) + Brayshaw (150k) = 100k

Odds of Coniglio becoming M8 = 75%
Odds of Libba becoming M8 = 50%
Odds of Dusty losing money = 95%
Odds of Brayshaw scoring under 75 = 50%

Trades - Only takes 1 keeper & I'm back on par, two keepers & I'm up 1 trade. There's also the ease at which I can upgrade, if both fail I can still take advantage of any dip in price from a fallen premo.

Best case scenario is both Cogs & Libba hit 110, not unreasonable considering Libba has done it before & showed tremendous signs over the preseason, most pleasing was his tackling, a sign his floor has just been lifted. Cogs only needs to lift 4 points from his 2016 numbers.

Quote from: Ringo on March 19, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
Like the team and reasoning.  However I think you may need another super premo in there,  Most teams will have 2 of Dusty, Danger or Titch may pay off but your decision.

Kelly is a super premo, has room to improve as well. TMitch falls to 110 IMO, Dusty could even dip below that if he's even fractionally off the pace. Generally he's also a slow starter, will be 580k after 6 rounds based on 2017 numbers.

Quote from: SilverLion on March 19, 2018, 11:54:46 AM

Nice side, batting deep in all lines at the expense of Martin and Mitchell. Midfield risky, but could pay off. Defence and Rucks are great. Would probably go Christensen/Bell ahead of Rioli but thats just personal preference.

Nice team to sit and wait on until the teams are announced.

Rioli has more chance to be a keeper, that's why he gets the nod. I also feel Bell has job security issues, I generally don't like making decisions based purely on JLT, particularly when the opposition was so weak. The other advantage I have is trading down if the cheaper guys get off to a flier, that's what round 3 trades are all about. As for Bundy, looks fat to me and I know he had weight issues at Geelong. As I understand he's put on 5kg of 'muscle' but that doesn't improve his midfield prospects whatsoever.