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Started by Money Shot, January 12, 2018, 10:34:15 AM

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ubeaut

The so called experts at Herald Sun have labelled Cam O'Shea as the must have rookie of 2018. Saying he will line up alongside Simmo, play 22 games and score well.
How do these guys think they know things like this?
Have the coaches/selectors told them as much?
Love for them to be right, but it irks me that they think they know everything.

ben_020285

Quote from: ubeaut on February 21, 2018, 11:57:55 AM
The so called experts at Herald Sun have labelled Cam O'Shea as the must have rookie of 2018. Saying he will line up alongside Simmo, play 22 games and score well.
How do these guys think they know things like this?
Have the coaches/selectors told them as much?
Love for them to be right, but it irks me that they think they know everything.

Have you seen some of these 'experts' teams? They are generally horrific!

I would read abosloutely nothing into their views on O'Shea. He is highly unlikely to play round 1. Would need to have an exceptional JLT series to get a gig.

RaisyDaisy

Everyone on this forum is just as much an expert as they are

Like Ben said, check out their teams

And how's about "The Phantom" LMAO guy finishes like 20k overall and we're supposed to take what his says seriously?  ;D

Money Shot

I have been saying all preseason that O'shea is a long shot for round 1. Yes Docherty's injury helps but I would think Mullet and Byrne are in front of him. O'brien is also someone who will get games in that position as well.


ben_020285

Quote from: Money Shot on February 21, 2018, 01:51:59 PM
I have been saying all preseason that O'shea is a long shot for round 1. Yes Docherty's injury helps but I would think Mullet and Byrne are in front of him. O'brien is also someone who will get games in that position as well.

Williamson too.

LordSneeze

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 21, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
Everyone on this forum is just as much an expert as they are

Like Ben said, check out their teams

And how's about "The Phantom" LMAO guy finishes like 20k overall and we're supposed to take what his says seriously?  ;D

Id say a lot of the people on this forum know more about what is going on than the experts. They also understand the game mechanics better and intricacies of price movements etc.
Phantom is slightly different as he follows SC first and foremost. some of his advise is good, but the majority of the time it is talking up names or mainstream options, rather than those that could actually be left field selections.

Southstorm

To be fair to the HS, they're only trying to give generic advice to the filthy casuals who are looking for ideas to complete the 20 out of 30 spots that are filled by the only players they know.
Which is a good thing, you don't want the /secrets/ being a back page article.

quinny88

They still have more contact with clubs and people in the know than we do though.
They know bugger all about SuperCoach but would know more about where a guy like O'Shea sits in the pecking order at Carlton.

Really though, it all counts for nothing. There will be guys that kill it in the JLT, injuries that occur and players that play terribly and get overlooked. We will know in a couple of weeks time

DCAK

Quote from: quinny88 on February 21, 2018, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: _wato on February 21, 2018, 12:00:09 AM
So everyone 100% off Birchall then? Is the perfect D4.... injury worse than first thought?

This is from 4 days ago in an article and it put me off

Racing to be ready: Grant Birchall's pre-Christmas arthroscope on his right knee was concerning, because he was again dealing with the swelling and soreness that saw him undergo a PCL reconstruction in August. He is back running, but his return date is unclear.

Flower that

Bully

With regards to Birchall, if Mirra is the guy to take his place it might be worthwhile benching Birchall for a couple of rounds and then fielding him once he's back. Sort of hedge the bets that way. Not sure when he's expected back but could use him as a loophole given Hawks have mainly Sunday games.

ubeaut

This position is totally the hardest to fill this year.
My whole structure seems dependant on it,as I'm sure many others are finding.
The apparent lack of Rookies,Birchall still injured and underwhelming other mid price candidates (Brayshaw,McGrath,Seedsman,McDonald,Bonner) means going 4 premos which I've never done, picking a speculative  mid pricer with no real confidence, or risk getting stuck with a crap rookie who scores crap and/or gets dropped.

4 premos or even a midprice option stuffs up my fwd and mid preferences and makes me consider Lycett to make up the money lost in defence.

I'm looking at Sicily as he seems most likely out of the cutprice options but costs more than Brayshaw and co. He needs to play back to score well and Clarko has said pretty much he'll play mainly back BUT will also go fwd when needed. His versatility could hurt SC prospects.
Hoping for one of the Carlton boys (Byrne,O'Shea,O'Brien) to get the backline job.

Money Shot

Think O'shea is little chance of playing much senior footy (as I have been saying all pre-season) Mullet and Byrne along with Simpson will be the small/rebounding defenders too start the year I think.

O'brien will get games this year but when is the question.

(I personally don't think Byrne is a best 22 player for us but Carlton like him a lot so I think he will get games)

RaisyDaisy

Just go full YOLO and put Doedee at F4

Could actually work  :o

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Just go full YOLO and put Doedee at F4

Could actually work  :o

F4 is certainly radical.  ;D

quinny88

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Just go full YOLO and put Doedee at F4

Could actually work  :o

I assume you mean D4 but yeah I actually really want to do this. Just need there to be enough rookies