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Started by Money Shot, January 12, 2018, 10:34:15 AM

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Money Shot

Quote from: frenzy on February 08, 2018, 12:39:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 07, 2018, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 07, 2018, 08:48:18 PM
Who's role does he take out of Marchbank, Plowman, Jones or Weitering? surely we arent going to play all 5 talls?

He's tall but he doesn't play as a tall though, more of a running defender which is where there's a gap after the Docherty injury

Mullett could will fill that spot.

quinny88

Quote from: Money Shot on February 08, 2018, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 08, 2018, 12:39:53 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 07, 2018, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on February 07, 2018, 08:48:18 PM
Who's role does he take out of Marchbank, Plowman, Jones or Weitering? surely we arent going to play all 5 talls?

He's tall but he doesn't play as a tall though, more of a running defender which is where there's a gap after the Docherty injury

Mullett could will fill that spot.

I guess the JLT form of both of them will be the deciding factor

DCAK

I'm really stuck on my D4 selection at the moment, I really can't see a way to raise the funds to have a premium @ D4 so it looks like it will have to be a mid-pricer  :-\

My most likely candidates are; McGrath, Sicily, Hanley, Wilson and Brayshaw.

McGrath is my pick at this stage, my reasoning is that his role is predictable (DEF/MID) and he's durable. 
Sicily scares me, what if they move him to their FWD line?
Hanley is rumoured to have some MID role ahead of him this year, but what if he is in the decline statistically (as his career statistics suggest) (103,86,86,77)
Wilson's career stats are trending upwards (45,51,55,75) so maybe approx 85 this season? Could go okay.
Brayshaw, well if he gets another concussion what happens? Season over? Career over?
Here's a quote from an SEN article from May 2017,

"In the lead up to Brayshaw’s return assistant coach Brendan McCartney said the club was looking to manage the high-end draft pick’s loads by not playing him through the midfield.

“Lots of his knocks have been related to hits around the ball and the contest area, which is his greatest strength. He’ll be fine long term but we might just change up his role a little to ensure he gets eased back in.”

Southstorm

McGrath will probably be playing the Parish-HFF/Wing job this season, so I'm expecting 2017 Parish scores as a result. He's a better run-and-carry player than Parish was but he's still in a shower role for supercoach.

AaronKirk

Agree with the above comments about McGrath. Give him another 12 months before he become relevant IMO.

Brayshaw is my current D4. Looked ok in AFLX. The fact they are giving him gametime in AFLX to me seems to be a good sign. Melbourne are a better side when he plays in the midfield.

If they do change his role to look ease him back in i'd suspect he would play off the half back line in an SC friendly role.

Hanley is also in my current side at D3. The suns have no choice but to play him in the mids. Should be able to push to a 90+ avg. The bye is a killer though.

Adamant

Quote from: AaronKirk on February 18, 2018, 03:20:45 AM
Hanley is also in my current side at D3. The suns have no choice but to play him in the mids. Should be able to push to a 90+ avg. The bye is a killer though.

Barlow, Lyons, Swallow, Hall, Touk, Fiorini, Brodie, Weller, Rischitelli (depending on if they look to phase him out or not) plus a heap of others that can go through there too. The Suns midfield is deeper than people think and Hanley has said himself that he'll be spending more time in defence this year, with only short stints through the midfield. He's still value regardless though.

ubeaut

Quote from: DCAK on February 17, 2018, 11:07:18 PM
I'm really stuck on my D4 selection at the moment, I really can't see a way to raise the funds to have a premium @ D4 so it looks like it will have to be a mid-pricer  :-\

My most likely candidates are; McGrath, Sicily, Hanley, Wilson and Brayshaw.

McGrath is my pick at this stage, my reasoning is that his role is predictable (DEF/MID) and he's durable. 
Sicily scares me, what if they move him to their FWD line?
Hanley is rumoured to have some MID role ahead of him this year, but what if he is in the decline statistically (as his career statistics suggest) (103,86,86,77)
Wilson's career stats are trending upwards (45,51,55,75) so maybe approx 85 this season? Could go okay.
Brayshaw, well if he gets another concussion what happens? Season over? Career over?
Here's a quote from an SEN article from May 2017,

"In the lead up to Brayshaw’s return assistant coach Brendan McCartney said the club was looking to manage the high-end draft pick’s loads by not playing him through the midfield.

“Lots of his knocks have been related to hits around the ball and the contest area, which is his greatest strength. He’ll be fine long term but we might just change up his role a little to ensure he gets eased back in.”
Thought u said Sicily was not a good option? :-)
If he plays backline he's as good a pick as any around that price either fwd or back and his DPP with a Keefe type would add loophole,trade and bye cover options.
Hanley the other one but as mentioned there's alot of young mids + Barlow and not many points to go around what will surely be a bottom team.
D4 and F3/4 really giving me headaches.
McGrath also competing with many others for SC mid points.
Brayshaw I'm not confident on either due to concussion/role issues.
Wilson is totally unknown and speculative imo.

jvalles69

Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

ben_020285

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 19, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

Right now it looks as though the DEF rookies will be the hardest to find so I'm interested to know which DEF rookies you would plan to start with from D4 to D8..

Bully

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 19, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

Have seen plenty with O'Shea. Don't want to go down this path myself, hoping Birch gets up. Haven't discounted Bonner either.

shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 19, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

Have seen plenty with O'Shea. Don't want to go down this path myself, hoping Birch gets up. Haven't discounted Bonner either.
Bit on the AFL site saying O'Shea was in the mix to help out down back with Doc out

Bully

Quote from: shaker on February 19, 2018, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 19, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

Have seen plenty with O'Shea. Don't want to go down this path myself, hoping Birch gets up. Haven't discounted Bonner either.
Bit on the AFL site saying O'Shea was in the mix to help out down back with Doc out

He's definitely in the mix but I'm concerned about his ability to stay in the side, was never a regular at Port apart from 1 season.

shaker

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 19, 2018, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 19, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

Have seen plenty with O'Shea. Don't want to go down this path myself, hoping Birch gets up. Haven't discounted Bonner either.
Bit on the AFL site saying O'Shea was in the mix to help out down back with Doc out

He's definitely in the mix but I'm concerned about his ability to stay in the side, was never a regular at Port apart from 1 season.
Lets see his role in JLT but he would be handy if he can hold down a spot

jvalles69

Quote from: ben_020285 on February 19, 2018, 05:38:22 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on February 19, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
Just getting back into footy mode.  Has anyone gone with another rookie at D4?  I am currently as I think their are more rooks who will play early than any other position?

Right now it looks as though the DEF rookies will be the hardest to find so I'm interested to know which DEF rookies you would plan to start with from D4 to D8..

There are loads of def positioned rookies who look close, whether or not they will make round 1 is yet to be seen:  Murphy x 2, Murray, Doedee, O'Shea, Goddard, Keefe, Smith, Eagles...more I haven't thought of, but yeah would have to reassess if there aren't enough rookies to be named.

meow meow

I'm thinking of having a rookie at D1 and having Parker at M8.