Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

Started by Money Shot, January 11, 2018, 10:58:19 AM

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PowerBug

Quote from: Adamant on April 15, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
All I can say is Goldy owners are just lucky that Preuss hasn't been setting the world on fire in the 2s, otherwise his ass would be getting dropped.
At this point I'm tempted to say that's unlucky, because if he was dropped at least that makes the option to trade easy! Whilst he's still in the side we can all go "Well I should probably deal with this non-playing $200k problem first instead of this playing $500k problem"

He gets dropped and everyone jumps off, makes it easy
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Quote from: SilverLion on April 15, 2018, 08:22:17 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 15, 2018, 08:15:02 PM
Just some advice.

I have dangerfield and goldy.

Goldy is averaging 5 points under his price and dangerfield is averaging 25+ points under his price.

The correct move is to drop danger right?
That's certainly one way to look at it.
That's it Danger is gone... 8)

Torpedo10

Danger 250 next week to beat his BE for sure, so I suggest you all keep him.  ;)

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Ricochet

Have Goldy, but he's going to have to stay for a bit. I need to get Dusty in first.

Holz

Quote from: Adamant on April 15, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
All I can say is Goldy owners are just lucky that Preuss hasn't been setting the world on fire in the 2s, otherwise his ass would be getting dropped.

Thats actually not true, he has been very good the last 2 weeks.

"Braydon Preuss
The pre-season form of Braydon Preuss has carried over into the season proper, with the towering colossus asserting his dominance on the ruck exchanges for the second consecutive week.

Preuss compiled a number of key hit-outs, offering a link between North’s roving midfielders and attacking options.

Despite alternating with Tristan Xerri, the 22-year-old provided polish and some much-needed aggression at every stoppage, winning a host of hit-outs against an in-form Andrew Phillips."

shaker

Quote from: Holz on April 16, 2018, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: Adamant on April 15, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
All I can say is Goldy owners are just lucky that Preuss hasn't been setting the world on fire in the 2s, otherwise his ass would be getting dropped.

Thats actually not true, he has been very good the last 2 weeks.

"Braydon Preuss
The pre-season form of Braydon Preuss has carried over into the season proper, with the towering colossus asserting his dominance on the ruck exchanges for the second consecutive week.

Preuss compiled a number of key hit-outs, offering a link between North’s roving midfielders and attacking options.

Despite alternating with Tristan Xerri, the 22-year-old provided polish and some much-needed aggression at every stoppage, winning a host of hit-outs against an in-form Andrew Phillips."

Then Goldy would want to pull his finger out that was a pretty poor performance in a huge win against a clearly not right Kreuzer , the coach talked him up for it after giving him a rev up in the week and he has the Hawks this week a much better team than the Blues , another poor performance could see Preuss get a go

Bully

Quote from: Ricochet on April 16, 2018, 11:42:34 AM
Have Goldy, but he's going to have to stay for a bit. I need to get Dusty in first.

Got it the wrong way around in my opinion. Grundy still only 7% ownership, this is definitely an area where one can exploit, Dusty at 55% and fully valued. Dusty also played as a full time forward, I'd expect a few sub 100 scores if Dimma persists with this set-up.

As for Grundy, he's basically a mid with the numbers he's producing, hard to see him slowing down, it's now or never IMO. From next week onwards it's all about upgrades & not correctional trades.

Quote from: Holz on April 16, 2018, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: Adamant on April 15, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
All I can say is Goldy owners are just lucky that Preuss hasn't been setting the world on fire in the 2s, otherwise his ass would be getting dropped.

Thats actually not true, he has been very good the last 2 weeks.

"Braydon Preuss
The pre-season form of Braydon Preuss has carried over into the season proper, with the towering colossus asserting his dominance on the ruck exchanges for the second consecutive week.

Preuss compiled a number of key hit-outs, offering a link between North’s roving midfielders and attacking options.

Despite alternating with Tristan Xerri, the 22-year-old provided polish and some much-needed aggression at every stoppage, winning a host of hit-outs against an in-form Andrew Phillips."


Surely that must be reason to be concerned, there's something not quite right with Goldy, I get the fact he's averaging 90 but I can see him being a liability from this point on.

Ricochet

Quote from: Bully on April 16, 2018, 01:17:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 16, 2018, 11:42:34 AM
Have Goldy, but he's going to have to stay for a bit. I need to get Dusty in first.

Got it the wrong way around in my opinion. Grundy still only 7% ownership, this is definitely an area where one can exploit, Dusty at 55% and fully valued. Dusty also played as a full time forward, I'd expect a few sub 100 scores if Dimma persists with this set-up.

As for Grundy, he's basically a mid with the numbers he's producing, hard to see him slowing down, it's now or never IMO. From next week onwards it's all about upgrades & not correctional trades.
Nah I'm not sideways trading, I've got the cash so I'm upgrading. So Goldy stays for now

Bully

Quote from: Ricochet on April 16, 2018, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 16, 2018, 01:17:58 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on April 16, 2018, 11:42:34 AM
Have Goldy, but he's going to have to stay for a bit. I need to get Dusty in first.

Got it the wrong way around in my opinion. Grundy still only 7% ownership, this is definitely an area where one can exploit, Dusty at 55% and fully valued. Dusty also played as a full time forward, I'd expect a few sub 100 scores if Dimma persists with this set-up.

As for Grundy, he's basically a mid with the numbers he's producing, hard to see him slowing down, it's now or never IMO. From next week onwards it's all about upgrades & not correctional trades.
Nah I'm not sideways trading, I've got the cash so I'm upgrading. So Goldy stays for now

Goldy scored 32 last time he met the Hawks, that is a huge concern. If someone can convince me otherwise I may just hold but everything is pointing to trouble.

Holz, you're the man in the know with Goldy, what's up with his form? Started well but has looked like a C grader the past fortnight.  Give me reason to believe.

Adamant

Quote from: Holz on April 16, 2018, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: Adamant on April 15, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
All I can say is Goldy owners are just lucky that Preuss hasn't been setting the world on fire in the 2s, otherwise his ass would be getting dropped.

Thats actually not true, he has been very good the last 2 weeks.

"Braydon Preuss
The pre-season form of Braydon Preuss has carried over into the season proper, with the towering colossus asserting his dominance on the ruck exchanges for the second consecutive week.

Preuss compiled a number of key hit-outs, offering a link between North’s roving midfielders and attacking options.

Despite alternating with Tristan Xerri, the 22-year-old provided polish and some much-needed aggression at every stoppage, winning a host of hit-outs against an in-form Andrew Phillips."

That was the match report from yesterday's game, where no stats had been released until after my comment. I was obviously referring to the week before when North's VFL team got pumped by the AFL Academy boys. Got a mate who was working at the game and he reckons that Preuss was bog average around the ground and wasn't taking any marks. He won the hitouts as he should have but didn't really dominate the ruck battle despite having the clear physical advantage.

Also match reports released by clubs tend to exaggerate the performance of players. In the above for example there was no mention about his work around the ground (he had 8 disposals) and his opponent Phillips was named in the best for the Northern Blues.

Hazza09

This week its either Goldy or Billings!

One has to go!

So far I'm not sure who it is, but i watched Goldy on Saturday night and he was in all sorts for most of the game.
Hes lacking aggression, no care factor and just doesn't seem involved in the game besides ruck contests.

Next 4 games he comes up against McEvoy, Sinclair, Westhoff and Nank. Not sure if he stays but if Pruess gets named this week then its a 100% trade.

Grundy for me is a must! He's playing like a midfielder slash ruckman, not sure what his B/E is but if its not done this week i think he will be out of range for at least a few weeks until he puts in a sub score.

Those who have Billings is another issue all together, but this week is the week to do it.

Big decisions!!

Bully

Quote from: Hazza09 on April 16, 2018, 03:26:47 PM
This week its either Goldy or Billings!

One has to go!

So far I'm not sure who it is, but i watched Goldy on Saturday night and he was in all sorts for most of the game.
Hes lacking aggression, no care factor and just doesn't seem involved in the game besides ruck contests.

Next 4 games he comes up against McEvoy, Sinclair, Westhoff and Nank. Not sure if he stays but if Pruess gets named this week then its a 100% trade.

Grundy for me is a must! He's playing like a midfielder slash ruckman, not sure what his B/E is but if its not done this week i think he will be out of range for at least a few weeks until he puts in a sub score.

Those who have Billings is another issue all together, but this week is the week to do it.

Big decisions!!

Grundy BE = 64 (projected to rise 19k)
Goldy BE = 155 (projected to lose 32k)

Billings BE = 146 (projected to lose 31k)
Gray BE = 65 (projected to rise 9k)

Really tough choice, the way things are going this year whatever I choose will be the wrong decision.

RaisyDaisy

If you started with Grundy then well done, but I wouldn't be rushing to get him in for those that don't have him

In the past 3 weeks he has had career high clearances, and the last two weeks disposals

3 monster scores in a row, but you can't chase past points and you don't buy at all time highs too

Surely most people still have guys like Fritsch, Holman etc on field, or other prems doing worse than Goldy? I'd be improving all of those before doing Goldy to Grundy

_wato

Yeah wouldn't be chasing after Grundy this week, has a career average of 69 v the Dons, highest score of 91 against them.