Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

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shaker

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 06, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:21:11 PM
Vardy out "for at least a month"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-05/big-eagle-facing-a-month-out-nic-nat-racing-clock

Lycett picks himself now I think
Vardy won't find it easy to come back in I think, specially if NicNat is back before him.

So what scores are people expecting if Lycett is sole ruck?

Might sound crazy,  but I don't have any scoring expectations at all

For me, I like the idea of starting Lycett as it gives me time to see who the best ruck will be as the season goes on, because besides Gawn the rest are a crapshoot right now

It's Witts all over again ,and that worked a treat last year

I'll need to play around and see what my team looks like with Lycett in it. Not 100% locked in yet, but very likely
Well you are starting to convince me a bit with the Witts comparison will have a fiddle with team and see what benefits it can provide

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 06, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:21:11 PM
Vardy out "for at least a month"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-05/big-eagle-facing-a-month-out-nic-nat-racing-clock

Lycett picks himself now I think
Vardy won't find it easy to come back in I think, specially if NicNat is back before him.

So what scores are people expecting if Lycett is sole ruck?

Might sound crazy,  but I don't have any scoring expectations at all

For me, I like the idea of starting Lycett as it gives me time to see who the best ruck will be as the season goes on, because besides Gawn the rest are a crapshoot right now

It's Witts all over again ,and that worked a treat last year

I'll need to play around and see what my team looks like with Lycett in it. Not 100% locked in yet, but very likely

got to admit the team looks amazing with Lycett in the squad. I feel like its considerably riskier then picking up a mid price mid like Jom Armitage etc.. just because the lack of bench cover and no straight swap or downgrade options.

Gigantor

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 06, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:21:11 PM
Vardy out "for at least a month"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-05/big-eagle-facing-a-month-out-nic-nat-racing-clock

Lycett picks himself now I think
Vardy won't find it easy to come back in I think, specially if NicNat is back before him.

So what scores are people expecting if Lycett is sole ruck?

Might sound crazy,  but I don't have any scoring expectations at all

For me, I like the idea of starting Lycett as it gives me time to see who the best ruck will be as the season goes on, because besides Gawn the rest are a crapshoot right now

It's Witts all over again ,and that worked a treat last year

I'll need to play around and see what my team looks like with Lycett in it. Not 100% locked in yet, but very likely

The difference is last year we had a DPP R3 with Nank in the forward line as cover

As others have mention if Lycett goes down early then you are cooked and will have to cop donuts or burn two trades to get another ruck


shaker

Quote from: Gigantor on March 06, 2018, 01:57:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 06, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 01:21:11 PM
Vardy out "for at least a month"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-05/big-eagle-facing-a-month-out-nic-nat-racing-clock

Lycett picks himself now I think
Vardy won't find it easy to come back in I think, specially if NicNat is back before him.

So what scores are people expecting if Lycett is sole ruck?

Might sound crazy,  but I don't have any scoring expectations at all

For me, I like the idea of starting Lycett as it gives me time to see who the best ruck will be as the season goes on, because besides Gawn the rest are a crapshoot right now

It's Witts all over again ,and that worked a treat last year

I'll need to play around and see what my team looks like with Lycett in it. Not 100% locked in yet, but very likely

The difference is last year we had a DPP R3 with Nank in the forward line as cover

As others have mention if Lycett goes down early then you are cooked and will have to cop donuts or burn two trades to get another ruck


It certainly makes the team look better batting 4 deep FWD and Back there is talk NN might get a practice match before R1 still over 2 weeks to go lets see what unfolds

RaisyDaisy

No doubt the lack of options if Lycett gets dropped/injured is a concern, but sometimes you just have to risk it for the biscuit. I'm most likely starting with several mid pricers this year so I am sure at least one of them might not work out, so could always trade one of them plus Lycett for a prem and rookie if need be

To be honest, I'm actually not that worried about his JS. The club loves Lycett and he hasn't missed a beat all preseason. The reality is we have 3 rucks, 2 of which have serious question marks and one who is fully fit and hasn't missed a beat

Vardy was given R1 last year by default. As much as he was fantastic for us, he isn't a walk up starter. I dunno, for me personally Lycett's JS doesn't concern me at all - I'm confident he plays

Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 02:23:32 PM
No doubt the lack of options if Lycett gets dropped/injured is a concern, but sometimes you just have to risk it for the biscuit. I'm most likely starting with several mid pricers this year so I am sure at least one of them might not work out, so could always trade one of them plus Lycett for a prem and rookie if need be

To be honest, I'm actually not that worried about his JS. The club loves Lycett and he hasn't missed a beat all preseason. The reality is we have 3 rucks, 2 of which have serious question marks and one who is fully fit and hasn't missed a beat

Vardy was given R1 last year by default. As much as he was fantastic for us, he isn't a walk up starter. I dunno, for me personally Lycett's JS doesn't concern me at all - I'm confident he plays

So let's say you go from Goldy to Lycett, how is this improving your squad?

Ricochet

JS isn't the issue, like you said RD, WC rate Lycett very highly. The issue imo will be his scoring as a fwd/ruck

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 02:28:51 PM
So let's say you go from Goldy to Lycett, how is this improving your squad?

I'll have to have a look into tonight when I get the time and see how it looks

I imagine it just means I can add a premium to another line - and that line will ultimately depend on available rookies come Round 1

Quote from: Ricochet on March 06, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
JS isn't the issue, like you said RD, WC rate Lycett very highly. The issue imo will be his scoring as a fwd/ruck

Yeah his scoring could be a bit up and down, but I do think he should be able to push 80 considering his last full season the year before he averaged over 83. If he can push 80 at 277k that's a big win

Gigantor

Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 02:23:32 PM
No doubt the lack of options if Lycett gets dropped/injured is a concern, but sometimes you just have to risk it for the biscuit. I'm most likely starting with several mid pricers this year so I am sure at least one of them might not work out, so could always trade one of them plus Lycett for a prem and rookie if need be

To be honest, I'm actually not that worried about his JS. The club loves Lycett and he hasn't missed a beat all preseason. The reality is we have 3 rucks, 2 of which have serious question marks and one who is fully fit and hasn't missed a beat

Vardy was given R1 last year by default. As much as he was fantastic for us, he isn't a walk up starter. I dunno, for me personally Lycett's JS doesn't concern me at all - I'm confident he plays

So let's say you go from Goldy to Lycett, how is this improving your squad?

Thats another good question

For me its:
Goldy+Brodie/Brayshaw(FRE)
vs
Lycett+Conigs

Which is really hard to split


Bully

Quote from: Gigantor on March 06, 2018, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 06, 2018, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 06, 2018, 02:23:32 PM
No doubt the lack of options if Lycett gets dropped/injured is a concern, but sometimes you just have to risk it for the biscuit. I'm most likely starting with several mid pricers this year so I am sure at least one of them might not work out, so could always trade one of them plus Lycett for a prem and rookie if need be

To be honest, I'm actually not that worried about his JS. The club loves Lycett and he hasn't missed a beat all preseason. The reality is we have 3 rucks, 2 of which have serious question marks and one who is fully fit and hasn't missed a beat

Vardy was given R1 last year by default. As much as he was fantastic for us, he isn't a walk up starter. I dunno, for me personally Lycett's JS doesn't concern me at all - I'm confident he plays

So let's say you go from Goldy to Lycett, how is this improving your squad?

Thats another good question

For me its:
Goldy+Brodie/Brayshaw(FRE)
vs
Lycett+Conigs

Which is really hard to split

If I'm being totally impartial then I can see some merit in going from high-priced rookie to Cogs, this in part because I believe he will be a keeper. For me it's not so simple, it means bringing in another 300k mid but also means an extra upgrade will be required.

ubeaut

Yeah I agree Lycett is a different kettle of fish to Witts and Nank. Witts was way ahead of Nicholls and Nank had nearly no competition with Hampson injured and Soldo so raw. No Griffiths either so they were running with Jack up fwd Nank in the ruck and Grigg of all people back up. 
WC has heaps of talls Darling,JJK,NN,Lycett,Vardy. I think I'd prefer if Vardy didn't get injured as I've got cold feet on Lycett after being keen for ages. This makes it more tempting but the possibility that he gets dropped/injured before he makes enough money is just a scary thought. It would mean having to downgrade a Premium or midpricer elsewhere. And even then what if there are no downgrade targets? Could be very messy.

batt

Finally getting a bit of a headache with the rucks.  And with that, Kreuz slowly works his way into my calculations.

Huttabito

Quote from: batt on March 06, 2018, 03:33:41 PM
Finally getting a bit of a headache with the rucks.  And with that, Kreuz slowly works his way into my calculations.
I'm locking in Krooze.

Good bye, great ceiling sure he may be max price and history is against him, but he's due for a good run and if he stays fit, he will be the number 1 ruck. If he breaks down, you'll be able to trade him to anyone.

Bully

Quote from: Huttabito on March 06, 2018, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: batt on March 06, 2018, 03:33:41 PM
Finally getting a bit of a headache with the rucks.  And with that, Kreuz slowly works his way into my calculations.
I'm locking in Krooze.

Good bye, great ceiling sure he may be max price and history is against him, but he's due for a good run and if he stays fit, he will be the number 1 ruck. If he breaks down, you'll be able to trade him to anyone.

If he breaks down at the start of a game you will lose dough.

Holz

can someone remind me what happen in round 21 2016.

Where he got 9 hit outs and 2 touches for 2 SC points.

Was he injured at all or just one of the worst games ever. He had 54% TOG.