Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

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dmac07

Quote from: quinny88 on February 14, 2018, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

Believe me, if Lycett lines up Round 1 his ownership will be a lot higher than 1%

The reason most of us have not got him in just yet is because we're waiting to see if he looks like getting a game

Vardy isn't going to be pushed aside, so Lycett is no where near a lock to start just yet (But we're all hoping he does!)

Doesn't Lycett score terribly with NicNat in the side?

In 2016 Lycett played 20 games and averaged 83, Nic Nat played 15. Havent gone as far as checking which games he was solo in and checking those scores though.

Torpedo10

Is it possible to score badly as a Ruck with Gaz, Danger, Selwood & Duncan around the Stoppages?

Think about it.

Bully

Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 14, 2018, 07:36:47 PM
Is it possible to score badly as a Ruck with Gaz, Danger, Selwood & Duncan around the Stoppages?

Think about it.

This is kind of my theory with Sauce, Gibbs joins the rotations, Crouch should improve and Sloane probably won't get hard tagged as much.

quinny88

Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 14, 2018, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

Believe me, if Lycett lines up Round 1 his ownership will be a lot higher than 1%

The reason most of us have not got him in just yet is because we're waiting to see if he looks like getting a game

Vardy isn't going to be pushed aside, so Lycett is no where near a lock to start just yet (But we're all hoping he does!)

Doesn't Lycett score terribly with NicNat in the side?

In 2016 Lycett played 20 games and averaged 83, Nic Nat played 15. Havent gone as far as checking which games he was solo in and checking those scores though.

Yeah I remember having Lycett in my forward line that year, that's why I remember him suffering when nicnat played haha

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: quinny88 on February 14, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 14, 2018, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

Believe me, if Lycett lines up Round 1 his ownership will be a lot higher than 1%

The reason most of us have not got him in just yet is because we're waiting to see if he looks like getting a game

Vardy isn't going to be pushed aside, so Lycett is no where near a lock to start just yet (But we're all hoping he does!)

Doesn't Lycett score terribly with NicNat in the side?

In 2016 Lycett played 20 games and averaged 83, Nic Nat played 15. Havent gone as far as checking which games he was solo in and checking those scores though.

Yeah I remember having Lycett in my forward line that year, that's why I remember him suffering when nicnat played haha

At 277k though you can't go wrong

It's just a matter of whether he looks to be best 22 or not which is the concern for now, so hopefully we'll find out closer to Round 1

ubeaut

Lycett scored 5 tons from 10 games with NN in the side at the start of 2016.
He works well with him and its not scoring I'm worried about its Vardy and whether they play all 3 at once. Lycett has had an awesome preseason and he will play round 1 imo. But will he play 10 games in a row again so he can become Ryder?

crowls

Quote from: ubeaut on February 14, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
Lycett scored 5 tons from 10 games with NN in the side at the start of 2016.
He works well with him and its not scoring I'm worried about its Vardy and whether they play all 3 at once. Lycett has had an awesome preseason and he will play round 1 imo. But will he play 10 games in a row again so he can become Ryder?
Did an option today that brings in Lycett for Jacobs and upgrade a rookie to JOM at M6.    Like the look of it.  Expect Jaeger to stay on the park and be my upgrade to Dusty. 

quinny88

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2018, 08:07:43 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 14, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 14, 2018, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2018, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 14, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

Believe me, if Lycett lines up Round 1 his ownership will be a lot higher than 1%

The reason most of us have not got him in just yet is because we're waiting to see if he looks like getting a game

Vardy isn't going to be pushed aside, so Lycett is no where near a lock to start just yet (But we're all hoping he does!)

Doesn't Lycett score terribly with NicNat in the side?

In 2016 Lycett played 20 games and averaged 83, Nic Nat played 15. Havent gone as far as checking which games he was solo in and checking those scores though.

Yeah I remember having Lycett in my forward line that year, that's why I remember him suffering when nicnat played haha

At 277k though you can't go wrong

It's just a matter of whether he looks to be best 22 or not which is the concern for now, so hopefully we'll find out closer to Round 1

Didn't realise he was that cheap tbh! Very much a consideration.

The problem is even if he and nicnat start round 1 he is only 1 bad game away from being dropped for Vardy

eaglesman

I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Bully

Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on February 18, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?

Nope not interested in nic nat he will get restricted time on ground and will get rested. One rest and that cheap price counts for nothing

I would definitely pick Ryder but for the bye and I assume most would agree he is prob the pick of the bunch.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 18, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?

Nope not interested in nic nat he will get restricted time on ground and will get rested. One rest and that cheap price counts for nothing

I would definitely pick Ryder but for the bye and I assume most would agree he is prob the pick of the bunch.

Sauce is basically chosen by default

Kreuz is priced at max value and always has injury risks. Ryder has a poor bye and also priced at max value imo. NN I just can't see playing 22 and if he does his TOG early on might be low. Goldy has Preuss, Grundy has Cox and so on

Sauce just seems like the safe bet to play 22 as sole ruck.

Perts24

Quote from: Bully on February 18, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?
Personally, I would imagine that the majority of kreuzer's points came from his work around the ground, not hitouts. Averaged 10 contested possessions, 4 clearances and 5 tackles a game. He averaged 30 hitouts but I'm not sure how many were to advantage, does anyone have that stat or know where I can find it?

eaglesman

Quote from: Perts24 on February 18, 2018, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 18, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?
Personally, I would imagine that the majority of kreuzer's points came from his work around the ground, not hitouts. Averaged 10 contested possessions, 4 clearances and 5 tackles a game. He averaged 30 hitouts but I'm not sure how many were to advantage, does anyone have that stat or know where I can find it?

I agree not worried about the hitouts as such ... I don’t think sauce is that good of a tap ruck myself

Bully

Quote from: Perts24 on February 18, 2018, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 18, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?
Personally, I would imagine that the majority of kreuzer's points came from his work around the ground, not hitouts. Averaged 10 contested possessions, 4 clearances and 5 tackles a game. He averaged 30 hitouts but I'm not sure how many were to advantage, does anyone have that stat or know where I can find it?

These stats are elusive but it only takes -2 a game to bring his average back to the pack. I did remember reading that Lobb had the highest %.

Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 18, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on February 18, 2018, 01:26:51 PM
I had him for a while but why is Jacobs so popular?
For mine it’s a bit of groupthink theory - following the crowd.
I know kreuzer is expensive but in years gone by we have locked in cox goldy and gawn without blinking.

Kreuzer won't have the same service at stoppages, Gibbs is a massive out. For 600k that's a big risk. Don't think Jacobs is a bad pick because Kreuzer's loss is Jacob's gain. Not remotely interested in Nic Nat?

Nope not interested in nic nat he will get restricted time on ground and will get rested. One rest and that cheap price counts for nothing

I would definitely pick Ryder but for the bye and I assume most would agree he is prob the pick of the bunch.

Must admit I'm slightly concerned about Nic Nat but it's now been 18 months of recovery so I can only assume the Weagles are doing everything in their power to get him cherry ripe for the opener. There was some talk of him being available for the finals last year but the club erred on the side of conservatism. If his JLT game is solid I'm locking him in. He's probably the same risk profile as Lobb who hasn't had a preseason and is battling dodgy groins.

My one concern with Sauce is the high standard deviation, 59, 60, 60, 61, 65 & 71 tells me he's very capable of throwing in stinkers. That could be poison, particularly in head to heads. It's a far worse record than guys who are competing with second ruckmen, Goldy included.