Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

[Bully]

I may be the only person thinking this way, but I have concerns with big Maxy Gawn. In the last 3 seasons he's played 48 of a possible 66 matches and last seasons remaining 3 or 4 matches were woeful for a ruckman trying to get his team into the eight. Somebody put my mind at ease.

Pretty much all the rucks have risk, Gawn has the benefit of having no competition for ruck duties (I don't count Pedo)

Kruezer - overpriced
Goldy - Preuss factor
NN - under done
Paddy - early bye
Smith - Stanley factor
Smartin - Archie
Grundy - Cox
Big Boy - Ceglar

All I'm seeing is Jacobs/Gawn set and forget.

Can someone enlighten me about the hype to do with Jacobs? Would be very lucky to be a top 3 ruck (Kreuzer, Gawn and Ryder), should be around 10 points a game under those 3.

Don't underestimate the Gibbs factor, Sauce now has a bit of silk to compliment the blue collar types. Carlton lose arguably their best mid, I have no doubts this will hurt Kreuzer. As for Ryder, the bye is the killer, would never structure my team with a donut in mind.

Why do you have to get a donut for choosing Ryder?

Well you'd be either wasting a trade or relying on R3 to play round 10. Seems pretty risky to me.

[Southstorm]

Not sure why everyone is writing off Ryder due to one  possible donut nearly halfway into the season. Alot can happen in that time and with Rocky,Gray,Boak,SPP,Wines etc. running through that midfield and a slow start last year due to season suspension prior, he has room for improvement.
Cameron,Pittonet and even Flynn from GWS should get games amongst other possibilities so there may indeed be cover. Lobb could even get DPP status seeing as they just made Motlop a mid/fwd. (Wishful thinking:-))
Donuts happen and whilst they should be minimized it's not the end of the world. There's so many ways to get extra points by captains choices/loops, other loopholed players, fielding the right rookies and picking Gun players like Paddy while everyone else worries about round 10.
Remember also he's one more premium you'd have over all the other bye rounds.

A bye outside of the bye rounds with no ruck coverage is a guaranteed donut, for a premium priced ruck you're losing 100 points. You don't get it back in the bye rounds unless one week you were going to field 17 instead of 18 players, which isn't something anybody should be planning to do. Same as fielding the right rookies and making the right captain choices, isn't that something you were going to do anyway?

I'm going to start Jacobs and look to trade up to Kreuzer or Ryder after their respective byes. In the meantime, the money saved by going with a cheaper ruck will be put to good use.

[Perts24]

I may be the only person thinking this way, but I have concerns with big Maxy Gawn. In the last 3 seasons he's played 48 of a possible 66 matches and last seasons remaining 3 or 4 matches were woeful for a ruckman trying to get his team into the eight. Somebody put my mind at ease.

Pretty much all the rucks have risk, Gawn has the benefit of having no competition for ruck duties (I don't count Pedo)

Kruezer - overpriced
Goldy - Preuss factor
NN - under done
Paddy - early bye
Smith - Stanley factor
Smartin - Archie
Grundy - Cox
Big Boy - Ceglar

All I'm seeing is Jacobs/Gawn set and forget.

Can someone enlighten me about the hype to do with Jacobs? Would be very lucky to be a top 3 ruck (Kreuzer, Gawn and Ryder), should be around 10 points a game under those 3.

Don't underestimate the Gibbs factor, Sauce now has a bit of silk to compliment the blue collar types. Carlton lose arguably their best mid, I have no doubts this will hurt Kreuzer. As for Ryder, the bye is the killer, would never structure my team with a donut in mind.

Why do you have to get a donut for choosing Ryder?

Have to get a donut when they have the early bye cause there is no cover and it's still a normal round.

I can see where you are coming from a bit more with sauce now but I can't see Kreuzer dropping many (if any) points. Last year was the first time he had a full pre season and he has finally strung a good amount of games together, with another full preseason under his belt I think he will have another ripper year.

[shaker]

I may be the only person thinking this way, but I have concerns with big Maxy Gawn. In the last 3 seasons he's played 48 of a possible 66 matches and last seasons remaining 3 or 4 matches were woeful for a ruckman trying to get his team into the eight. Somebody put my mind at ease.

Pretty much all the rucks have risk, Gawn has the benefit of having no competition for ruck duties (I don't count Pedo)

Kruezer - overpriced
Goldy - Preuss factor
NN - under done
Paddy - early bye
Smith - Stanley factor
Smartin - Archie
Grundy - Cox
Big Boy - Ceglar

All I'm seeing is Jacobs/Gawn set and forget.

Can someone enlighten me about the hype to do with Jacobs? Would be very lucky to be a top 3 ruck (Kreuzer, Gawn and Ryder), should be around 10 points a game under those 3.

Don't underestimate the Gibbs factor, Sauce now has a bit of silk to compliment the blue collar types. Carlton lose arguably their best mid, I have no doubts this will hurt Kreuzer. As for Ryder, the bye is the killer, would never structure my team with a donut in mind.

Why do you have to get a donut for choosing Ryder?

Well you'd be either wasting a trade or relying on R3 to play round 10. Seems pretty risky to me.

Who knows what happens between now and round 10 there could be ruck carnage , the extra points I think Ryder can make might be worth a trade or 2 , some people use all 9 trades in the byes every year maybe using only 7 and a couple for ruck corrections might be a plan , trying to predict everything in your team from day one to the end is silly sometimes you just gotta go with your gut :D

[Sabretooth Tigers]

I may be the only person thinking this way, but I have concerns with big Maxy Gawn. In the last 3 seasons he's played 48 of a possible 66 matches and last seasons remaining 3 or 4 matches were woeful for a ruckman trying to get his team into the eight. Somebody put my mind at ease.

Pretty much all the rucks have risk, Gawn has the benefit of having no competition for ruck duties (I don't count Pedo)

Kruezer - overpriced
Goldy - Preuss factor
NN - under done
Paddy - early bye
Smith - Stanley factor
Smartin - Archie
Grundy - Cox
Big Boy - Ceglar

All I'm seeing is Jacobs/Gawn set and forget.

Can someone enlighten me about the hype to do with Jacobs? Would be very lucky to be a top 3 ruck (Kreuzer, Gawn and Ryder), should be around 10 points a game under those 3.

Don't underestimate the Gibbs factor, Sauce now has a bit of silk to compliment the blue collar types. Carlton lose arguably their best mid, I have no doubts this will hurt Kreuzer. As for Ryder, the bye is the killer, would never structure my team with a donut in mind.

Why do you have to get a donut for choosing Ryder?

Well you'd be either wasting a trade or relying on R3 to play round 10. Seems pretty risky to me.

:-\

If Ryder were to outscore the ruckman you would replace him with  in the first 8 Rds by enough to cover not playing   the bye wouldn't he be worth having ?  Mightn't that save a trade ? Guess it depends on what you are playing for  ie  cash league or perhaps overall.

;)

[Bully]

I may be the only person thinking this way, but I have concerns with big Maxy Gawn. In the last 3 seasons he's played 48 of a possible 66 matches and last seasons remaining 3 or 4 matches were woeful for a ruckman trying to get his team into the eight. Somebody put my mind at ease.

Pretty much all the rucks have risk, Gawn has the benefit of having no competition for ruck duties (I don't count Pedo)

Kruezer - overpriced
Goldy - Preuss factor
NN - under done
Paddy - early bye
Smith - Stanley factor
Smartin - Archie
Grundy - Cox
Big Boy - Ceglar

All I'm seeing is Jacobs/Gawn set and forget.

Can someone enlighten me about the hype to do with Jacobs? Would be very lucky to be a top 3 ruck (Kreuzer, Gawn and Ryder), should be around 10 points a game under those 3.

Don't underestimate the Gibbs factor, Sauce now has a bit of silk to compliment the blue collar types. Carlton lose arguably their best mid, I have no doubts this will hurt Kreuzer. As for Ryder, the bye is the killer, would never structure my team with a donut in mind.

Why do you have to get a donut for choosing Ryder?

Well you'd be either wasting a trade or relying on R3 to play round 10. Seems pretty risky to me.

Who knows what happens between now and round 10 there could be ruck carnage , the extra points I think Ryder can make might be worth a trade or 2 , some people use all 9 trades in the byes every year maybe using only 7 and a couple for ruck corrections might be a plan , trying to predict everything in your team from day one to the end is silly sometimes you just gotta go with your gut :D

So let's say Ryder averages 10 points more than Sauce, that's a mere 90 points difference leading into the bye, pretty hard to justify blowing a trade in my opinion. It's on the same par as picking a donut to cash in a bench ton in the first round.

[shaker]

I may be the only person thinking this way, but I have concerns with big Maxy Gawn. In the last 3 seasons he's played 48 of a possible 66 matches and last seasons remaining 3 or 4 matches were woeful for a ruckman trying to get his team into the eight. Somebody put my mind at ease.

Pretty much all the rucks have risk, Gawn has the benefit of having no competition for ruck duties (I don't count Pedo)

Kruezer - overpriced
Goldy - Preuss factor
NN - under done
Paddy - early bye
Smith - Stanley factor
Smartin - Archie
Grundy - Cox
Big Boy - Ceglar

All I'm seeing is Jacobs/Gawn set and forget.

Can someone enlighten me about the hype to do with Jacobs? Would be very lucky to be a top 3 ruck (Kreuzer, Gawn and Ryder), should be around 10 points a game under those 3.

Don't underestimate the Gibbs factor, Sauce now has a bit of silk to compliment the blue collar types. Carlton lose arguably their best mid, I have no doubts this will hurt Kreuzer. As for Ryder, the bye is the killer, would never structure my team with a donut in mind.

Why do you have to get a donut for choosing Ryder?

Well you'd be either wasting a trade or relying on R3 to play round 10. Seems pretty risky to me.

Who knows what happens between now and round 10 there could be ruck carnage , the extra points I think Ryder can make might be worth a trade or 2 , some people use all 9 trades in the byes every year maybe using only 7 and a couple for ruck corrections might be a plan , trying to predict everything in your team from day one to the end is silly sometimes you just gotta go with your gut :D

So let's say Ryder averages 10 points more than Sauce, that's a mere 90 points difference leading into the bye, pretty hard to justify blowing a trade in my opinion. It's on the same par as picking a donut to cash in a bench ton in the first round.

Why by not starting players like Dusty or Danger might end up costing you an extra trade to get them in is that a wasted trade? , I usually make 2 or 3 stupid or wasted trades every year maybe this year in the rucks  ;D I don't over think things in SC like I said sometimes you just gotta go with your gut  ;)

[RaisyDaisy]

Rucks are a nightmare this year

I'm just going to crack the code and go with Gawn at R1 and R2  ;D

[quinny88]

Rucks are a nightmare this year

I'm just going to crack the code and go with Gawn at R1 and R2  ;D

Imagine Gawn misses round 1. All hell will break loose

[SilverLion]

Rucks are a nightmare this year

I'm just going to crack the code and go with Gawn at R1 and R2  ;D

Imagine Gawn misses round 1. All hell will break loose

Don't say that :o

[meow meow]

Witts and Crossley combo if you don't care about the bye.

Really meow Crossley maybe Witts and Ryder if you don't care about the bye  ::)

I meant at R2 and R3 pal

[quinny88]

Rucks are a nightmare this year

I'm just going to crack the code and go with Gawn at R1 and R2  ;D

Imagine Gawn misses round 1. All hell will break loose

Don't say that :o

At least the rucks would look very different haha

[dmac07]

Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

[RaisyDaisy]

Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

Believe me, if Lycett lines up Round 1 his ownership will be a lot higher than 1%

The reason most of us have not got him in just yet is because we're waiting to see if he looks like getting a game

Vardy isn't going to be pushed aside, so Lycett is no where near a lock to start just yet (But we're all hoping he does!)

[quinny88]

Gawn and Lycett locked for me and have been for ages. Lycett only in 1% of teams, everyone else should avoid him though  ;).

Lycett will allow me the oppurtunity to look at the other rucks as I really cant split them after Gawn. Just hoping Nic Nat also plays round 1 so Lycett will stay more unique.

Believe me, if Lycett lines up Round 1 his ownership will be a lot higher than 1%

The reason most of us have not got him in just yet is because we're waiting to see if he looks like getting a game

Vardy isn't going to be pushed aside, so Lycett is no where near a lock to start just yet (But we're all hoping he does!)

Doesn't Lycett score terribly with NicNat in the side?