Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

Started by Money Shot, January 11, 2018, 10:58:19 AM

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ubeaut

Pedersen can score well but what about his JS? No guarantee to stay with McDonald,Gawn and Hogan all fit. Another option is Lycett. Much cheaper is a better forward than Vardy,JJK underdone. But again JS issues,although I've read hes training well and looking great. I'll try to find  where I read that...

Ringo

Lycett a Ruck only but could be a handy R3 at $277k if going with Nat.

Gigantor

Quote from: ubeaut on January 31, 2018, 05:33:07 PM
Pedersen can score well but what about his JS? No guarantee to stay with McDonald,Gawn and Hogan all fit. Another option is Lycett. Much cheaper is a better forward than Vardy,JJK underdone. But again JS issues,although I've read hes training well and looking great. I'll try to find  where I read that...

Lycett and Vardy will be tough to split

Lycett showed he could regularly ton up with NN in the team, it was just the consistency that was the problem, somehow scored 2 from a full game haha
He still managed to average 83 from 20 games
For the record he missed once from a normal suspension and once for a club suspension for being a dick.

Vardy did everything Simmo asked of him last year so he has plenty of credits in the bank

Both have their own positives, Lycett a workhorse, allows NN to really be a burst player, Vardy very athletic, could pair well with NN

A concern is if they get to the point were its hard to spilt it could be a week to week prospect. Lycett plays against the beasts, Vardy when its the smaller or mobile rucks.

But despite these concerns if Lycett gets to round one and looks the clear winner he might be worth a sneaky look at R2 at only 277k, would allow you a few rounds to gauge the rucks and could easily make you a nice 130-150k

Just wish they were DPP :(

RaisyDaisy

While undoubtedly said tongue in cheek, Gawn has no doubt he’s ready to return to his 2016 SuperCoach form.

Asked if he was worth picking in 2018, the Demons big man was unequivocal.

“I think it’s a no brainer,” he joked on RSN.

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ubeaut

Quote from: Ringo on January 31, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Lycett a Ruck only but could be a handy R3 at $277k if going with Nat.
I'm thinking R2 if anything. NN + Lycett is about 750k. 200 k more than Sauce/Ryder. Need that cash elsewhere imo.

js19

Quote from: ubeaut on January 31, 2018, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 31, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Lycett a Ruck only but could be a handy R3 at $277k if going with Nat.
I'm thinking R2 if anything. NN + Lycett is about 750k. 200 k more than Sauce/Ryder. Need that cash elsewhere imo.

You still need to add an R3 to that scenario though, so the actual cost difference isn't THAT big, with an extra 102K...

RaisyDaisy

I've been looking closer at the ruck situation, and besides Gawn I just don't know which other ruck to pick. My gut feel doesn't like starting any of them

So, I've decided to play around with the idea of starting a cheap ruck at R2. Someone who might only score 60-80 most weeks

The benefit of this is two fold - it gives me time to see who is looking like the best ruck for the year, and it also allows me have a really strong def, mid and forward line

At the moment I'm looking at Lycett due to his discounted price, but ultimately I won't care too much. As long as they are under 400k (the cheaper the better) and have solid JS I actually think this could work this year

Money Shot

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2018, 04:22:13 PM
I've been looking closer at the ruck situation, and besides Gawn I just don't know which other ruck to pick. My gut feel doesn't like starting any of them

So, I've decided to play around with the idea of starting a cheap ruck at R2. Someone who might only score 60-80 most weeks

The benefit of this is two fold - it gives me time to see who is looking like the best ruck for the year, and it also allows me have a really strong def, mid and forward line

At the moment I'm looking at Lycett due to his discounted price, but ultimately I won't care too much. As long as they are under 400k (the cheaper the better) and have solid JS I actually think this could work this year
Something I have looked at doing as well. However, I can't find any at all with decent job security.

Hampson, Lycett, Cox and Boyd are the ones that look like having a decent chance of playing 20+ games this season.

ubeaut

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I've got Lycett as R2 atm. If he can play 9 or so games and make cash could become Ryder come round 11. If Cameron/Pittonet get a run there's back up as well.

Money Shot

Lycett and Dahlhous looks just as good as Smith and Christensen in my eyes.

Gives me something to think about definitely.

However would need to have really good job security for me to even consider this approach.

Vardy, Lycett and Nic Nat cant all play so I wonder who will go.


RaisyDaisy

Just need the cheap ruck to play the first 6-8 games of the season, and by then we should know who the top rucks are and make the upgrade

Lycett/Vardy, Naismith, any of the Dogs Rough/Campbell/Boyd etc

iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 01:42:51 AM
Just need the cheap ruck to play the first 6-8 games of the season, and by then we should know who the top rucks are and make the upgrade

Lycett/Vardy, Naismith, any of the Dogs Rough/Campbell/Boyd etc
Personaly id go roughy, but all really good options imo

Southstorm

There's no clear #2 out of Vardy and Slyce so I'm worried that Simmo will swap them around game after game for the start of the season if NN debuts early and commands the number 1 spot. Slyce is the better ruck but Vardy is the better forward. Wouldn't have the balls to pick either of them unless NN was confirmed to be out until mid year.

The best value ruck this year isn't actually a ruck! Go figure.

js19

Any Swans folk know how Darcy Cameron is looking for an early debut? Could be very helpful...

Adamant

Jon Ceglar has to be your man if going down the mid-priced route.

2014: 76.6
2015: 71.8
2016: 69.2 (70.8 uninjured)
2017: ACL

Priced at 48.5. Big Boy had his best season in Hawks colours playing as the sole ruck so he's no guarantee for Rd 1, but Clarko does like a second ruck playing the 'Hale' role, which Cegs had been playing to perfection before the injury (and what Vickery was meant to do last year in his absence).

Personally, I think he's probably fighting for a spot with O'Brien, with the latter likely winning out for the extra mobility. But if he's named for Rd 1 then he might be worth the punt. Chuck Pittonet on the bench as insurance.

Otherwise why not just pick Vardy and Lycett? It would cost roughly the same as Sauce and a 117k ruck so you won't be saving any cash but it does allows you to have a look at the top performing rucks. One is guaranteed to play every week.