Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

[Bully]

^Sounds like one worth considering. However at the end of the day, Preuss will be taking points from him.

That's if they are played together. I'm not convinced they will be, it didn't work and surely the selectors at north can see that

So how does that help Goldy? Preuss is the future and North are unlikely to be top eight again in Goldy's career. They need to get as many games as possible into Preuss so whether they play together or not I can't see him returning to his SC greatness. He is likely to improve on last year but also will either have decreased output with Preuss and/or will get rested for him.

Think there is a clear message given Majak is being trialed as a backman, my reading is that Goldy takes the majority of ruck work & Preuss can hone his forward craft. If North have made a public statement that Goldstein looks ripe for a 2015 repeat then that bodes well for a good stint in the middle. 

[quinny88]

^Sounds like one worth considering. However at the end of the day, Preuss will be taking points from him.

That's if they are played together. I'm not convinced they will be, it didn't work and surely the selectors at north can see that

So how does that help Goldy? Preuss is the future and North are unlikely to be top eight again in Goldy's career. They need to get as many games as possible into Preuss so whether they play together or not I can't see him returning to his SC greatness. He is likely to improve on last year but also will either have decreased output with Preuss and/or will get rested for him.

Watch from the 35 second mark
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-02-16/rookies-to-watch-and-whos-the-no1-ruck

That to me says unless Preuss pulls out some very solid games up forward in the JLT he won't be in the side

[Money Shot]

This is making me really consider Goldy. Surely if North have come out and said he looks like he is back to his best they aren't going to play him as their second ruck?

He is practically the same price as Jacobs and the same age but the difference is Goldy has a much higher ceiling.

The bye is interesting though as having Gawn/Goldy out would hurt a lot in round 13 but would help in round 14 which is looking like the hardest one to cover.

[LordSneeze]

I want them to not talk up Goldy, ive been all over him since SC opened and the more he gets talked about the less of a POD he will become.

People keep talking up the Preuss factor, but if you look into the stats (Not the SC points) you will soon realise there was other reasons behind the slightly lower scores in matches both played. Just a hint, bounces attended, HOTA, DE% might give you some help.

[Ricochet]

^Sounds like one worth considering. However at the end of the day, Preuss will be taking points from him.

That's if they are played together. I'm not convinced they will be, it didn't work and surely the selectors at north can see that

So how does that help Goldy? Preuss is the future and North are unlikely to be top eight again in Goldy's career. They need to get as many games as possible into Preuss so whether they play together or not I can't see him returning to his SC greatness. He is likely to improve on last year but also will either have decreased output with Preuss and/or will get rested for him.

Watch from the 35 second mark
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-02-16/rookies-to-watch-and-whos-the-no1-ruck

That to me says unless Preuss pulls out some very solid games up forward in the JLT he won't be in the side

Good link there Quinny. I've definitely started to consider Goldy again now, but we'll have to see how they use Preuss

[Ringo]

Seriously considering Jacobs and Goldy as my set and forget rucks. A lot though depends on rookies starting and whether I can afford the extra 23k,

[Ricochet]

Seriously considering Jacobs and Goldy as my set and forget rucks. A lot though depends on rookies starting and whether I can afford the extra 23k,

no Gawn??

[GoLions]

Seriously considering Jacobs and Goldy as my set and forget rucks. A lot though depends on rookies starting and whether I can afford the extra 23k,

no Gawn??

Maybe Ringo holds a grudge for Gawn getting rid of the beard last year. Can't think of any other reason not to start him tbh.

[Huttabito]

All things aside, I'd still want to see what they plan to do with Pruess first.

Average with: 77.5 (1/6 100+)
Average without: 102.8 (8/13 100+)

Had two shockers when Pruess played (32, 52) with the rest between 88-105, so not awful, but I'd still want more higher scores.

[frenzy]

Norf's got too many talls and don't know what do with them. Daw down back, Wood and Waite on wings and kids that can't get a game, Mckay/ Ed Vickers/Junker/hibberd. Don't know that we will learn much from JLT, tbh.

[quinny88]

This is gonna be one of those decisions that can't be made until Thursday night before round 1

[frenzy]

This is gonna be one of those decisions that can't be made until Thursday night before round 1

Yep, Goldy's named, locked and loaded. Think this Preuss thing is being blown out of proportion. Goldy is Norf's number one ruck and it's just a case of who and how they fit his backup in the team.

[RaisyDaisy]

This is gonna be one of those decisions that can't be made until Thursday night before round 1

Yep, Goldy's named, locked and loaded. Think this Preuss thing is being blown out of proportion. Goldy is Norf's number one ruck and it's just a case of who and how they fit his backup in the team.

Agree

They dropped Preuss after R4 and he didn't return until R19 when Goldy was clearly going through a lot off field at that exact time

[quinny88]

This is gonna be one of those decisions that can't be made until Thursday night before round 1

Yep, Goldy's named, locked and loaded. Think this Preuss thing is being blown out of proportion. Goldy is Norf's number one ruck and it's just a case of who and how they fit his backup in the team.

Agree

They dropped Preuss after R4 and he didn't return until R19 when Goldy was clearly going through a lot off field at that exact time

Yeah I agree as well. The theory that they will play Preuss ahead of Goldy to get games into him is nonsense. Goldy is the best ruckman in the comp and had a down year with a lot going on, I expect him to bounce back. And even if he doesn't and averages 95 it's not the end of the world, won't be many better either way

[SilverLion]

This is gonna be one of those decisions that can't be made until Thursday night before round 1

Yep, Goldy's named, locked and loaded. Think this Preuss thing is being blown out of proportion. Goldy is Norf's number one ruck and it's just a case of who and how they fit his backup in the team.

Agree

They dropped Preuss after R4 and he didn't return until R19 when Goldy was clearly going through a lot off field at that exact time

Yeah I agree as well. The theory that they will play Preuss ahead of Goldy to get games into him is nonsense. Goldy is the best ruckman in the comp and had a down year with a lot going on, I expect him to bounce back. And even if he doesn't and averages 95 it's not the end of the world, won't be many better either way

Don't think they'll play him ahead of Goldy, reckon they'll play both alongside each other. Which is equally concerning as they'll share game time, hitouts and SC points.