Top 2/5 rucks, 2018 Thread

Started by Money Shot, January 11, 2018, 10:58:19 AM

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RaisyDaisy

Ceglar is definitely on the radar

Anyone priced under 400k is really

No point getting both Lycett/Vardy. The point of this strategy is that is frees up the money to get all other lines really solid. That's the focus here, not having ruck cover

This is the first year we don't have any decent rucks that can play in the forwards to provide cover, so for that reason we are all going to need to burn a couple of trades in the rucks this year unless you're blessed to start 2 rucks who don't miss a game all year so for that reason that's why I am looking to adopt this strategy. We're going to use a trade or too anyway, so might as well start a cheap ruck because the odds of set and forget working this year are extremely low

shaker

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 10:06:30 AM
Ceglar is definitely on the radar

Anyone priced under 400k is really

No point getting both Lycett/Vardy. The point of this strategy is that is frees up the money to get all other lines really solid. That's the focus here, not having ruck cover

This is the first year we don't have any decent rucks that can play in the forwards to provide cover, so for that reason we are all going to need to burn a couple of trades in the rucks this year unless you're blessed to start 2 rucks who don't miss a game all year so for that reason that's why I am looking to adopt this strategy. We're going to use a trade or too anyway, so might as well start a cheap ruck because the odds of set and forget working this year are extremely low
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Southstorm

There's a ruckman who's a smokey to start R1, very questionable JS, but he's priced at low 50's and should be good for 80's. Has tonned up before when rucking solo, if they confine Lobb to more of a forward role.

frenzy

#108
Naismith, Sinkers and Cammo is on the cards. Two of them three will have to play every week surely.

And as soon as I write this, I remember Allir  Allir, Lol

tmac16

Quote from: Southstorm on February 03, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
There's a ruckman who's a smokey to start R1, very questionable JS, but he's priced at low 50's and should be good for 80's. Has tonned up before when rucking solo, if they confine Lobb to more of a forward role.

why would you suggest low JS, he's played 40 games ..... over 10 years

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Ceglar was best 22 and if he returns Rd1 then I would expect that to still be the case

Roughead is also an option who is best 22

Lycett/Vardy is risky yes, but again it's no so much making a call on the exact player right now because there's still so long to go before we see who is playing etc, but the discussion is more so about the theory of adopting this strategy and I think I will be doing it this year, hopefully as a POD

Gandalf123

Quote from: frenzy on February 03, 2018, 01:46:37 PM
Naismith, Sinkers and Cammo is on the cards. Two of them three will have to play every week surely.

And as soon as I write this, I remember Allir  Allir, Lol
Don't think we will roll with 2 of those 3, think it will be naismith with Reid pinch hitting, too big of a side and slow if we roll with 2 rucks

frenzy

Quote from: Gandalf123 on February 03, 2018, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 03, 2018, 01:46:37 PM
Naismith, Sinkers and Cammo is on the cards. Two of them three will have to play every week surely.

And as soon as I write this, I remember Allir  Allir, Lol
Don't think we will roll with 2 of those 3, think it will be naismith with Reid pinch hitting, too big of a side and slow if we roll with 2 rucks

Interesting, Gee Reid would need to lift, just going on last years numbers. 22 games 36 hitouts in total.  :o

shaker

#113
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Ceglar was best 22 and if he returns Rd1 then I would expect that to still be the case

Roughead is also an option who is best 22

Lycett/Vardy is risky yes, but again it's no so much making a call on the exact player right now because there's still so long to go before we see who is playing etc, but the discussion is more so about the theory of adopting this strategy and I think I will be doing it this year, hopefully as a POD
Ceglar avg. 69.2 his last year you really want a R2 that avg's 70 ?

Gigantor

Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Ceglar was best 22 and if he returns Rd1 then I would expect that to still be the case

Roughead is also an option who is best 22

Lycett/Vardy is risky yes, but again it's no so much making a call on the exact player right now because there's still so long to go before we see who is playing etc, but the discussion is more so about the theory of adopting this strategy and I think I will be doing it this year, hopefully as a POD
Ceglar avg. 69.2 last year you really want a R2 that avg's 70 ?

Does it matter?

If your R2 is cheap and avg's 70 that means your D4/M6/F4 averages higher

Levi434

WXVW Vacant Coaching Position!

This teams has two of the top rucks in the WXVW comp!

We only need one more coach! The sooner someone signs up the better the comp will be! The season is very short and will be done by the time AFL kicks off so it's fun!

The team list is as follows:
1. Emma King (R)
2. Sabrina Frederick-Traub (F/R)
3. Ebony Marinoff (M)
4. Bianca Jakobsson (F)
5. Nicole Hildebrand (B)
6. Caitlyn Edwards (B)
7. Tiah Haynes (M)
8. Bree White (M/F)
9. Hannah Scott (M)
10. Melissa Caulfield (F/M)
11. Jasmine Garner (F)
12. Penny Cula-Reid (B)
13. Britt Tully (M)
14. Sarah Last (B)
15. Demi Okley (M/F)
16. Katherine Smith (M)
17. Tayla Bresland (B)
18. Jess Gardner (F/B)
19. Katie Loynes (M)
20. Selina Goodman (M)
21. Ruby Schleicher (R)
22. Melissa Kuys (M)
23. Nat Exon (M)
24. Kendra Heil (M/F)
25. Caitlin Collins (B)
26. Sophie Casey (F)
27. Rebecca Neaves (M)

National Picks:
3, 11, 19, 27, 35, 43, 51, 59, 7th rounder*, 8th rounder*

PM Levi ASAP if interested!


shaker


iZander

Quote from: Gigantor on February 03, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Ceglar was best 22 and if he returns Rd1 then I would expect that to still be the case

Roughead is also an option who is best 22

Lycett/Vardy is risky yes, but again it's no so much making a call on the exact player right now because there's still so long to go before we see who is playing etc, but the discussion is more so about the theory of adopting this strategy and I think I will be doing it this year, hopefully as a POD
Ceglar avg. 69.2 last year you really want a R2 that avg's 70 ?

Does it matter?

If your R2 is cheap and avg's 70 that means your D4/M6/F4 averages higher
Yes.
There are heaps of players in the D/M/F who cheap and COULD premos, much better taking a risk on one of those than getting a guy you know wont go very big just to get "better" in those positions


shaker

Quote from: iZander on February 03, 2018, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on February 03, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Ceglar was best 22 and if he returns Rd1 then I would expect that to still be the case

Roughead is also an option who is best 22

Lycett/Vardy is risky yes, but again it's no so much making a call on the exact player right now because there's still so long to go before we see who is playing etc, but the discussion is more so about the theory of adopting this strategy and I think I will be doing it this year, hopefully as a POD
Ceglar avg. 69.2 last year you really want a R2 that avg's 70 ?

Does it matter?

If your R2 is cheap and avg's 70 that means your D4/M6/F4 averages higher
Yes.
There are heaps of players in the D/M/F who cheap and COULD premos, much better taking a risk on one of those than getting a guy you know wont go very big just to get "better" in those positions


My thinking as well you only get 2 Rucks why would you choose a spud with one of your picks

js19

Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 08:27:35 PM
Quote from: iZander on February 03, 2018, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on February 03, 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 07:06:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2018, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 03, 2018, 01:24:35 PM
I reckon this is the year for set and forget are you really thinking about starting Lycett Vardy or Ceglar for R2 ? seems to me if Nic Nat plays but is looking like being rested then surely Lycett or Vardy won't play when he does so you are in the same boat may as well start Nic Nat same with Ceglar if the coach decides to go with one ruck every now and then all for 150 - 200K into another line , what you gain in points in one line you lose for having a lesser ruck who might not play all the time ?

Ceglar was best 22 and if he returns Rd1 then I would expect that to still be the case

Roughead is also an option who is best 22

Lycett/Vardy is risky yes, but again it's no so much making a call on the exact player right now because there's still so long to go before we see who is playing etc, but the discussion is more so about the theory of adopting this strategy and I think I will be doing it this year, hopefully as a POD
Ceglar avg. 69.2 last year you really want a R2 that avg's 70 ?

Does it matter?

If your R2 is cheap and avg's 70 that means your D4/M6/F4 averages higher
Yes.
There are heaps of players in the D/M/F who cheap and COULD premos, much better taking a risk on one of those than getting a guy you know wont go very big just to get "better" in those positions


My thinking as well you only get 2 Rucks why would you choose a spud with one of your picks

+1

Sandy last year was a fallen prem, and that played out ok, but hoping a spud finally matures is much more risky imo