To Danger, or Not to Danger

[SilverLion]

A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

Yes... if he is your first midfield upgrade target... and your team is structured to profit from it; and EVERYTHING falls into place.

This is the scenario from my team:

My Dangerfield team has a midfield that does not include D. Martin (Dangerfield; Mitchell; Kelly; Fyfe; Parker).

My Forward line F5 - F7: Christensen; Fritsch (Stephenson; F8)

If I downgrade Dangerfield > D. Martin & use the cash to upgrade Stephenson > Dunkley

A gain could be made if:
Dangerfield doesn't play Round 1
Danger takes a few games to warm-up
D. Martin averages 130 the first 8 rounds (ensuring 260 on your VC/C loophole)
Dunkley pushes Fritsch to F7, with a +15 gain per round
You have an Armitage/O'Meara/Coniglio/Libba type @ M6 to allow for a two-trade upgrade to Danger

I agree it's marginal, and there are a lot of IFs, but I think it's wrong to say you can't win overall without starting Danger. In fact, I think it's quite possible there's some person out there who has combination of players that will jump them ahead of the crowd by taking this risk.

The attraction for me is D. Martin + Christensen & Dunkley v. Dangerfield + Christensen & Fritsch. I don't want any Rookies on the field in my Forward line. I also have Sicily at F4, and so having Fritsch at F7 allows me to slide Sicily to D4 if required.

It's a very team specific question. I have Danger at the moment. I'll keep him if he's named, and is a late out. But if he's not named at all I'm seriously considering going the Martin / Dunkley route.

They said at all, not just starting without him :P

I was also taking into consideration the theme of the thread: To Danger, or not to Danger; but apologies for wasting 30 seconds of your time in reading my considered response.

I'm a lowly Property Steward, and will now refrain from polluting this forum with my comments and thoughts.

Haha sorry if it seemed like I disregarded what you said mate.

I actually agreed with the vast majority of your post Sonny, especially given the likelihood that even if Danger plays, he won't be 100%. I've already stated on this thread that I'd do similar to what you are, except I would trade him, if he was a late out, to Oliver.

Was just sayin' that what you said had no relation to what you quoted was all ;)

If Holman scores an 80 I will be starting Danger, if Holman scores a 40 I will probably play Selwood for a couple of weeks and use a trade to get him back in. It's not just the fact he's a definite top 8 mid, it's the captain's scores you're missing out on.

You'd put Holman ahead of Banfield?

[Bully]

A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

Yes... if he is your first midfield upgrade target... and your team is structured to profit from it; and EVERYTHING falls into place.

This is the scenario from my team:

My Dangerfield team has a midfield that does not include D. Martin (Dangerfield; Mitchell; Kelly; Fyfe; Parker).

My Forward line F5 - F7: Christensen; Fritsch (Stephenson; F8)

If I downgrade Dangerfield > D. Martin & use the cash to upgrade Stephenson > Dunkley

A gain could be made if:
Dangerfield doesn't play Round 1
Danger takes a few games to warm-up
D. Martin averages 130 the first 8 rounds (ensuring 260 on your VC/C loophole)
Dunkley pushes Fritsch to F7, with a +15 gain per round
You have an Armitage/O'Meara/Coniglio/Libba type @ M6 to allow for a two-trade upgrade to Danger

I agree it's marginal, and there are a lot of IFs, but I think it's wrong to say you can't win overall without starting Danger. In fact, I think it's quite possible there's some person out there who has combination of players that will jump them ahead of the crowd by taking this risk.

The attraction for me is D. Martin + Christensen & Dunkley v. Dangerfield + Christensen & Fritsch. I don't want any Rookies on the field in my Forward line. I also have Sicily at F4, and so having Fritsch at F7 allows me to slide Sicily to D4 if required.

It's a very team specific question. I have Danger at the moment. I'll keep him if he's named, and is a late out. But if he's not named at all I'm seriously considering going the Martin / Dunkley route.

They said at all, not just starting without him :P

I was also taking into consideration the theme of the thread: To Danger, or not to Danger; but apologies for wasting 30 seconds of your time in reading my considered response.

I'm a lowly Property Steward, and will now refrain from polluting this forum with my comments and thoughts.

Haha sorry if it seemed like I disregarded what you said mate.

I actually agreed with the vast majority of your post Sonny, especially given the likelihood that even if Danger plays, he won't be 100%. I've already stated on this thread that I'd do similar to what you are, except I would trade him, if he was a late out, to Oliver.

Was just sayin' that what you said had no relation to what you quoted was all ;)

If Holman scores an 80 I will be starting Danger, if Holman scores a 40 I will probably play Selwood for a couple of weeks and use a trade to get him back in. It's not just the fact he's a definite top 8 mid, it's the captain's scores you're missing out on.

You'd put Holman ahead of Banfield?

Probably, seems to be producing big tackle numbers.

[frenzy]

A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

you would need your capt ( who's probably Dusty ) to take it to another level and bridge the gap, but that would be mind blowing, especially if Danger goes 130 + again.

[meow meow]

I've never had Danger in any of my drafts and I am going to win overall, so yes. But only if you've got Ablett.

[Ringo]

Danger is in my team atm but if not named will trade in Ablett and then upgrade Ablett when he gets rested.  Feel comfortable trading Ablett up to Danger when he is in form. Ideal situation Gazz pumps up 120+ and gains value Danger starts slow due to injury straight swap. Undecided what to do with the 118k gained though whether to upgrade in mids eg Bont to Dusty or not.

The concern for me were the reports that Gazz ran strongly in the intraclub whereas Danger stayed on sidelines.

[eaglesman]

Plenty of time til his game and I already feel like it’s a mad scramble working out how I can fit this bloke back into my Sc side.

[hawkers65]

Danger playing round 1 - Fox Sports

[Mahogany]

Danger NOT playing round 1 - Damien Barrett on triple M

Won’t know until teams are finalised, everyone thinks they know.

[RaisyDaisy]

Danger playing round 1 - Fox Sports

Danger NOT playing round 1 - Damien Barrett on triple M

Won’t know until teams are finalised, everyone thinks they know.

= Nobody knows

Danger locked in, and if he's a late out, hell even if he isn't named Thursday either way I'll just downgrade to GAJ and keep the 120k aside

[Levi434]

Danger playing round 1 - Fox Sports

Danger NOT playing round 1 - Damien Barrett on triple M

Won’t know until teams are finalised, everyone thinks they know.

= Nobody knows

Danger locked in, and if he's a late out, hell even if he isn't named Thursday either way I'll just downgrade to GAJ and keep the 120k aside

RD just go GAJ right now. Forget about Danger, he's only gonna be a late out and hurt everyone.

[PowerBug]

RD just go GAJ right now. Forget about Danger, he's only gonna be a late out and hurt everyone.

I'm looking at it the other way. Pretending that Danger is locked into my side and I can't move him out, if he misses this week then I'll field the rookie (Which I'm already planning to have two shots at).

[crowls]

RD just go GAJ right now. Forget about Danger, he's only gonna be a late out and hurt everyone.

I'm looking at it the other way. Pretending that Danger is locked into my side and I can't move him out, if he misses this week then I'll field the rookie (Which I'm already planning to have two shots at).

PB  how do you get two cracks at the rookie?

[PowerBug]

RD just go GAJ right now. Forget about Danger, he's only gonna be a late out and hurt everyone.

I'm looking at it the other way. Pretending that Danger is locked into my side and I can't move him out, if he misses this week then I'll field the rookie (Which I'm already planning to have two shots at).

PB  how do you get two cracks at the rookie?

I'll likely have Holman as emergency with Tim Kelly as the M10 ready to sub on if Danger is out (And Holman scores badly). Means I am starting both Freo rookies + Brodie but as someone that likes to start SC players that play against my club Port (for the win-win scenario, Port win or my SC wins) I don't mind going down that route.

[Bully]

So what are people doing? Now confirmed out but almost 100% to start next week.

As I see it, you can take a rookie score for a week & then have a perma captain whose ownership will be under 20%.

Not sure 60 points is worth a trade either, so bringing in Jelwood or Gaz would need to be a long term position.

Gut says hold but that may change if the rookie score is shocking. Could even put the E on Banfield & get two bites of the cherry with Holman playing straight after.

[TomK]

A trade is definitely not worth 60 points, I'll be using him to loophole Banfield and Holman.