To Danger, or Not to Danger

Started by Trindacut, January 10, 2018, 10:37:52 PM

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SilverLion

He's just testing us. He's probably completely fine and just wanted to see how many of us are going to doubt him and take him out of our sides ;D

Southstorm

Have to start the guy. You might lose 100 points to somebody who doesn't start him if he is out for R1, but with a few good captains scores you would probably be back in front by R5.

Proverb 3:5-6, Trust in Patrick with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him and he will make your scores great.

Bully

Think I'll start him, will loop with Holman & just hope I get an 80.

frenzy

Quote from: enzedder on March 16, 2018, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 16, 2018, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 16, 2018, 03:03:24 PM
If Danger is named I am sure most people will start him.

I have thought back and fourth about what to do if he either isn't named or is a late out. What I have decided too do is start him regardless and just put him on the bench for a week. If it was round 5 and this happened you wouldn't trade him out for just 1 round and then work out all the elaborate plans to get him back in. Kind of hope he doesn't get named round 1 so that I can have Danger as my pod :o

I am confident he will be back round 2 as they have a 9 day break after there first match which will give him plenty of time to recover.

I agree. Worst case scenario you start Kelly in a dangerless midfield and he is more than capable of a 90 score. So hopefully you're down 30 points off an A grade mids score but you'll have Danger from round 2 while everyone else is scrambling and wasting minimum 2 trades to get him back.
1 trade.... cash in bank for Danger. Have to plan for these things.

SHhhhhhhh..., .... Lol    :-X

Mahogany

A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

SilverLion

Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??
No

crowls

Quote from: SilverLion on March 18, 2018, 01:20:58 PM
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??
No
No

Colley Dogs

#187
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

Yes... if he is your first midfield upgrade target... and your team is structured to profit from it; and EVERYTHING falls into place.

This is the scenario from my team:

My Dangerfield team has a midfield that does not include D. Martin (Dangerfield; Mitchell; Kelly; Fyfe; Parker).

My Forward line F5 - F7: Christensen; Fritsch (Stephenson; F8)

If I downgrade Dangerfield > D. Martin & use the cash to upgrade Stephenson > Dunkley

A gain could be made if:
Dangerfield doesn't play Round 1
Danger takes a few games to warm-up
D. Martin averages 130 the first 8 rounds (ensuring 260 on your VC/C loophole)
Dunkley pushes Fritsch to F7, with a +15 gain per round
You have an Armitage/O'Meara/Coniglio/Libba type @ M6 to allow for a two-trade upgrade to Danger

I agree it's marginal, and there are a lot of IFs, but I think it's wrong to say you can't win overall without starting Danger. In fact, I think it's quite possible there's some person out there who has combination of players that will jump them ahead of the crowd by taking this risk.

The attraction for me is D. Martin + Christensen & Dunkley v. Dangerfield + Christensen & Fritsch. I don't want any Rookies on the field in my Forward line. I also have Sicily at F4, and so having Fritsch at F7 allows me to slide Sicily to D4 if required.

It's a very team specific question. I have Danger at the moment. I'll keep him if he's named, and is a late out. But if he's not named at all I'm seriously considering going the Martin / Dunkley route.

MontyJnr

#188
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

It’s realistic that starting Dangerfield could LOSE overall for you.

If he misses R1 and then has a slow start resulting in a huge cash drop (it’s his first hamstring ever remember, so his ability to bounce back is relatively unknown), then you could suddenly find yourself well behind the pack.

It’s a real make or break decision and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the eventual overall winner overlooking him end of season.

Torpedo10

Quote from: MontyJnr on March 18, 2018, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

It’s realistic that starting Dangerfield could LOSE overall for you.

If he misses R1 and then has a slow start resulting in a huge cash drop (it’s his first hamstring ever remember, so his ability to bounce back is relatively unknown), then you could suddenly find yourself well behind the pack.
Unless the pack has Danger, which currently 21% do.


SilverLion

Quote from: Sonnydark on March 18, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

Yes... if he is your first midfield upgrade target... and your team is structured to profit from it; and EVERYTHING falls into place.

This is the scenario from my team:

My Dangerfield team has a midfield that does not include D. Martin (Dangerfield; Mitchell; Kelly; Fyfe; Parker).

My Forward line F5 - F7: Christensen; Fritsch (Stephenson; F8)

If I downgrade Dangerfield > D. Martin & use the cash to upgrade Stephenson > Dunkley

A gain could be made if:
Dangerfield doesn't play Round 1
Danger takes a few games to warm-up
D. Martin averages 130 the first 8 rounds (ensuring 260 on your VC/C loophole)
Dunkley pushes Fritsch to F7, with a +15 gain per round
You have an Armitage/O'Meara/Coniglio/Libba type @ M6 to allow for a two-trade upgrade to Danger

I agree it's marginal, and there are a lot of IFs, but I think it's wrong to say you can't win overall without starting Danger. In fact, I think it's quite possible there's some person out there who has combination of players that will jump them ahead of the crowd by taking this risk.

The attraction for me is D. Martin + Christensen & Dunkley v. Dangerfield + Christensen & Fritsch. I don't want any Rookies on the field in my Forward line. I also have Sicily at F4, and so having Fritsch at F7 allows me to slide Sicily to D4 if required.

It's a very team specific question. I have Danger at the moment. I'll keep him if he's named, and is a late out. But if he's not named at all I'm seriously considering going the Martin / Dunkley route.
They said at all, not just starting without him :P

MontyJnr

Quote from: Torpedo10 on March 18, 2018, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on March 18, 2018, 03:11:25 PM
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

It’s realistic that starting Dangerfield could LOSE overall for you.

If he misses R1 and then has a slow start resulting in a huge cash drop (it’s his first hamstring ever remember, so his ability to bounce back is relatively unknown), then you could suddenly find yourself well behind the pack.
Unless the pack has Danger, which currently 21% do.

I can tell you right now that the Top 500 won’t be made up of teams carrying a 750k Dangerfield in their side if he’s throwing up 95s after missing a game..

Bully

If Holman scores an 80 I will be starting Danger, if Holman scores a 40 I will probably play Selwood for a couple of weeks and use a trade to get him back in. It's not just the fact he's a definite top 8 mid, it's the captain's scores you're missing out on.

Colley Dogs

Quote from: SilverLion on March 18, 2018, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Sonnydark on March 18, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: Mahogany on March 18, 2018, 01:19:00 PM
A key question I’m keen to hear people’s thoughts on is - can you win overall WITHOUT Dangerfield at all??

Yes... if he is your first midfield upgrade target... and your team is structured to profit from it; and EVERYTHING falls into place.

This is the scenario from my team:

My Dangerfield team has a midfield that does not include D. Martin (Dangerfield; Mitchell; Kelly; Fyfe; Parker).

My Forward line F5 - F7: Christensen; Fritsch (Stephenson; F8)

If I downgrade Dangerfield > D. Martin & use the cash to upgrade Stephenson > Dunkley

A gain could be made if:
Dangerfield doesn't play Round 1
Danger takes a few games to warm-up
D. Martin averages 130 the first 8 rounds (ensuring 260 on your VC/C loophole)
Dunkley pushes Fritsch to F7, with a +15 gain per round
You have an Armitage/O'Meara/Coniglio/Libba type @ M6 to allow for a two-trade upgrade to Danger

I agree it's marginal, and there are a lot of IFs, but I think it's wrong to say you can't win overall without starting Danger. In fact, I think it's quite possible there's some person out there who has combination of players that will jump them ahead of the crowd by taking this risk.

The attraction for me is D. Martin + Christensen & Dunkley v. Dangerfield + Christensen & Fritsch. I don't want any Rookies on the field in my Forward line. I also have Sicily at F4, and so having Fritsch at F7 allows me to slide Sicily to D4 if required.

It's a very team specific question. I have Danger at the moment. I'll keep him if he's named, and is a late out. But if he's not named at all I'm seriously considering going the Martin / Dunkley route.
They said at all, not just starting without him :P

I was also taking into consideration the theme of the thread: To Danger, or not to Danger; but apologies for wasting 30 seconds of your time in reading my considered response.

I'm a lowly Property Steward, and will now refrain from polluting this forum with my comments and thoughts.

AaronKirk

If he plays he is in my side. If he doesn't play Oliver takes his spot as a premo mid in my side and will have $200k left over.

I am happy with my side as it is ATM. If Danger doesn't play I may keep the cash and make him a priority as my first upgrade.