To Danger, or Not to Danger

Started by Trindacut, January 10, 2018, 10:37:52 PM

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Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 11, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
If he misses round 1 this is the decision that can make and break a lot of sides Sc season.

Certainly can shape your season that's for sure

If he misses Rd1 and you decide to start him you'd be bloody nervous in the lead up to Rd2 haha, but on the opposite side if you do start him and he does return Rd2 that could give you a massive edge over all the teams that don't start him and he won't be easy for them to bring in soon too - you'd probably have to wait a few rounds at least before it's even an option and by then you could be miles behind

I saw FantasyFreako tweeted Danger hasn't missed an H&A game since 2013, so he's super durable. If the news is positive I think I will actually still start him. Those that don't might get the jump on me Rd1, but I'll get them back and then some every round there after

If the injury is similar to Billings it will be 2-3 weeks, that could mean first 2 rounds out.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2018, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 11, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
If he misses round 1 this is the decision that can make and break a lot of sides Sc season.

Certainly can shape your season that's for sure

If he misses Rd1 and you decide to start him you'd be bloody nervous in the lead up to Rd2 haha, but on the opposite side if you do start him and he does return Rd2 that could give you a massive edge over all the teams that don't start him and he won't be easy for them to bring in soon too - you'd probably have to wait a few rounds at least before it's even an option and by then you could be miles behind

I saw FantasyFreako tweeted Danger hasn't missed an H&A game since 2013, so he's super durable. If the news is positive I think I will actually still start him. Those that don't might get the jump on me Rd1, but I'll get them back and then some every round there after

If the injury is similar to Billings it will be 2-3 weeks, that could mean first 2 rounds out.

True

Let's say our Danger replacement scores 115 x 2 rounds, and those who start him have to field a rookie who scores 65

100 points down over first 2, vs having him for every week there after vs those who don't, not having to use a trade and not having to worry about how to get him in

I'll take the 100 hit, because the return long term will be much more

jvalles69

If Danger looks like missing I'm willing to burn a trade on permacap.  Will finalise my team with Danger...straight swap him to someone with a good 2 round run, and switch straight back to Danger when he's back named.  You do not want to be caught out with not enough cash to bring him back in that's for sure.

Woppa15

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 11, 2018, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 11, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
If he misses round 1 this is the decision that can make and break a lot of sides Sc season.

Certainly can shape your season that's for sure

If he misses Rd1 and you decide to start him you'd be bloody nervous in the lead up to Rd2 haha, but on the opposite side if you do start him and he does return Rd2 that could give you a massive edge over all the teams that don't start him and he won't be easy for them to bring in soon too - you'd probably have to wait a few rounds at least before it's even an option and by then you could be miles behind

I saw FantasyFreako tweeted Danger hasn't missed an H&A game since 2013, so he's super durable. If the news is positive I think I will actually still start him. Those that don't might get the jump on me Rd1, but I'll get them back and then some every round there after

+1. My thoughts exactly RD.

quinny88

If you're going for overall you can't start him if he misses surely? Will be no garuntee of a return the following week or if he takes a couple of weeks to get to his best after his return. That's of course if he even misses at all. I kind of hope he does because it will make things really interesting

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: quinny88 on March 12, 2018, 12:02:24 AM
If you're going for overall you can't start him if he misses surely? Will be no garuntee of a return the following week or if he takes a couple of weeks to get to his best after his return. That's of course if he even misses at all. I kind of hope he does because it will make things really interesting

It's just a hammy strain and he's Danger so he won't need time to get back to his best

quinny88

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2018, 12:05:31 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 12, 2018, 12:02:24 AM
If you're going for overall you can't start him if he misses surely? Will be no garuntee of a return the following week or if he takes a couple of weeks to get to his best after his return. That's of course if he even misses at all. I kind of hope he does because it will make things really interesting

It's just a hammy strain and he's Danger so he won't need time to get back to his best

Yeah I would still expect him to be good but might not explode out for 150s straight away

dmac07

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 12, 2018, 12:05:31 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 12, 2018, 12:02:24 AM
If you're going for overall you can't start him if he misses surely? Will be no garuntee of a return the following week or if he takes a couple of weeks to get to his best after his return. That's of course if he even misses at all. I kind of hope he does because it will make things really interesting

It's just a hammy strain and he's Danger so he won't need time to get back to his best

A hammy strain on a really explosive guy, wouldn't be surprised if they take an extra cautious approach and just give him to round 3 or play him more forward for a game or two

frenzy

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 11, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
If Danger looks like missing I'm willing to burn a trade on permacap.  Will finalise my team with Danger...straight swap him to someone with a good 2 round run, and switch straight back to Danger when he's back named.  You do not want to be caught out with not enough cash to bring him back in that's for sure.

This^ I will swap now for Jelwood and sit on the $200k, then bring him in upon his return. Better to sit with $200k in the bank than $750k on the bench.

Ringo

Quote from: frenzy on March 12, 2018, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 11, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
If Danger looks like missing I'm willing to burn a trade on permacap.  Will finalise my team with Danger...straight swap him to someone with a good 2 round run, and switch straight back to Danger when he's back named.  You do not want to be caught out with not enough cash to bring him back in that's for sure.

This^ I will swap now for Jelwood and sit on the $200k, then bring him in upon his return. Better to sit with $200k in the bank than $750k on the bench.
Thinking this as well.  With Ablett still in a little doubt as well Jelwood should score reasonably well. Only has a B/e of 102 for the first 3 rounds so should make a little cash as well. Ideal situation for me is that Danger misses 2 rounds and scores a little below average and  selwood makes money Rounds 3 & 4. Then upgrade Selwood to Danger,

Torpedo10

It's an interesting prospect, Jelwood has had iffy starts to the season since Gaz left, usually being a post-bye specialist. Could this be the year to start with him, having Gaz back and all?

hawkers65

Ive been looking for an excuse to start Treloar for 2 weeks now. Danger out Treloar in has been made. A nice 150 against the hawks like usual to get his season off to a good start followed by collingwoods ridiculously easy draw and chance of finals

shaker

Quote from: Ringo on March 12, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: frenzy on March 12, 2018, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 11, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
If Danger looks like missing I'm willing to burn a trade on permacap.  Will finalise my team with Danger...straight swap him to someone with a good 2 round run, and switch straight back to Danger when he's back named.  You do not want to be caught out with not enough cash to bring him back in that's for sure.

This^ I will swap now for Jelwood and sit on the $200k, then bring him in upon his return. Better to sit with $200k in the bank than $750k on the bench.
Thinking this as well.  With Ablett still in a little doubt as well Jelwood should score reasonably well. Only has a B/e of 102 for the first 3 rounds so should make a little cash as well. Ideal situation for me is that Danger misses 2 rounds and scores a little below average and  selwood makes money Rounds 3 & 4. Then upgrade Selwood to Danger,
If you are going to go down that path of getting a player to cover then bring Danger in as soon as he comes back you really have to look at the cover players draw Jelwood gets tagged a fair bit and with Danger out he would be likely candidate , Neale plays Port and Ebert is a very good tagger and whoever you pick getting a hard tag and scoring 50 would be a disaster.

The one I've singled out is Cripps B/E 98 I was not starting him but he has the Tiges which don't really hard tag players then GC at home then the Pies and Greenwood is doubtful then North a pretty good run and if he puts up monster scores like a lot think I can keep him and trade out another player that has not started well but first lets see what the report is on Danger  ;)

Plus if you don't start Danger it is probably a good move to see how he scores when he comes back for a week or two anyway.

Gigantor

I think people are overestimating how much premo guys like Jelwood will increase in price.

Due to the way the price changes are calculated compared to a players initial price a top end premo needs to average 10ppg more than the previous year just to maintain their starting price

If Jelwood comes out and averages 125 for the first 6 weeks he will only go up 50k


The trade off to this is the prices of players who start poorly crash very quickly

If Danger plays 5 games @ 110 he will be about 100k less

Ringo

Quote from: Gigantor on March 12, 2018, 12:49:02 PM
I think people are overestimating how much premo guys like Jelwood will increase in price.

Due to the way the price changes are calculated compared to a players initial price a top end premo needs to average 10ppg more than the previous year just to maintain their starting price

If Jelwood comes out and averages 125 for the first 6 weeks he will only go up 50k


The trade off to this is the prices of players who start poorly crash very quickly

If Danger plays 5 games @ 110 he will be about 100k less
That is the ideal situation meaning only a 30k changeover,  ;) We can hope.