To Danger, or Not to Danger

[_wato]

Not a must have.

These forward stints are killing his scores.

Happy to pick him up way down the track.

Not a must right now definitely ... but his forward stints have only killed his 130 average.

His 110-115 average is not affected ... and there's only upside should he get more mid time.

That means he's ahead of M.Crouch, Treloar, JPK, Selwood, Neale, Oliver, Cripps and all those others who can match him if they perform well.

It's only a matter of how much you want to pay for security.  Maybe $620K is too much right now ... maybe Menzel and Ablett come back into the forward line and this is the cheapest he'll ever be.

The big question is and people keep forgetting this

Will Danger get the mid time he once had? My answer is no
They picked up two recruits, Ablett and Kelly because they needed to fill a hole. Geelong have been good but haven’t been great enough in the two years Danger has been there to push deep into finals. He is a natural forward as he is midfielder and I can tell you right now that the role he is playing is more beneficial to the team than what we care about in terms of Fantasy.

Jelwood can’t play forward as good as he does, Duncan cannot, Scooter cannot, Kelly cannot and then there’s blokes like Menegola, GHS, Blicavs, Guthrie etc who can play through the mids and do a good enough job. That eats into his time.

It’s no secret that both Danger and Dusty are playing very similar roles. Start in the centre at clearances and then push forward and plug a hole at Full forward.

For the scores where Danger goes 130+ there’ll also be the 80’s and 90’s and that’s when he doesn’t kick goals. Look at Dusty, 3 rd average of 90 odd and not playing spectacularly. Why? He isn’t kicking goals.
I’d be surprised if the split went anywhere past a 60/40 mid forward and atm we’re seeing a 40/60 and 110 average.

[RoughRed]

Not a must have.

These forward stints are killing his scores.

Happy to pick him up way down the track.

Not a must right now definitely ... but his forward stints have only killed his 130 average.

His 110-115 average is not affected ... and there's only upside should he get more mid time.

That means he's ahead of M.Crouch, Treloar, JPK, Selwood, Neale, Oliver, Cripps and all those others who can match him if they perform well.

It's only a matter of how much you want to pay for security.  Maybe $620K is too much right now ... maybe Menzel and Ablett come back into the forward line and this is the cheapest he'll ever be.

The big question is and people keep forgetting this

Will Danger get the mid time he once had? My answer is no
They picked up two recruits, Ablett and Kelly because they needed to fill a hole. Geelong have been good but haven’t been great enough in the two years Danger has been there to push deep into finals. He is a natural forward as he is midfielder and I can tell you right now that the role he is playing is more beneficial to the team than what we care about in terms of Fantasy.

Jelwood can’t play forward as good as he does, Duncan cannot, Scooter cannot, Kelly cannot and then there’s blokes like Menegola, GHS, Blicavs, Guthrie etc who can play through the mids and do a good enough job. That eats into his time.

It’s no secret that both Danger and Dusty are playing very similar roles. Start in the centre at clearances and then push forward and plug a hole at Full forward.

For the scores where Danger goes 130+ there’ll also be the 80’s and 90’s and that’s when he doesn’t kick goals. Look at Dusty, 3 rd average of 90 odd and not playing spectacularly. Why? He isn’t kicking goals.
I’d be surprised if the split went anywhere past a 60/40 mid forward and atm we’re seeing a 40/60 and 110 average.

Great observations
only problem with Danger as a more forward-mid at the moment is he is playing on 2 legs

[Marstar]

Not a must have.

These forward stints are killing his scores.

Happy to pick him up way down the track.

Not a must right now definitely ... but his forward stints have only killed his 130 average.

His 110-115 average is not affected ... and there's only upside should he get more mid time.

That means he's ahead of M.Crouch, Treloar, JPK, Selwood, Neale, Oliver, Cripps and all those others who can match him if they perform well.

It's only a matter of how much you want to pay for security.  Maybe $620K is too much right now ... maybe Menzel and Ablett come back into the forward line and this is the cheapest he'll ever be.

The big question is and people keep forgetting this

Will Danger get the mid time he once had? My answer is no
They picked up two recruits, Ablett and Kelly because they needed to fill a hole. Geelong have been good but haven’t been great enough in the two years Danger has been there to push deep into finals. He is a natural forward as he is midfielder and I can tell you right now that the role he is playing is more beneficial to the team than what we care about in terms of Fantasy.

Jelwood can’t play forward as good as he does, Duncan cannot, Scooter cannot, Kelly cannot and then there’s blokes like Menegola, GHS, Blicavs, Guthrie etc who can play through the mids and do a good enough job. That eats into his time.

It’s no secret that both Danger and Dusty are playing very similar roles. Start in the centre at clearances and then push forward and plug a hole at Full forward.

For the scores where Danger goes 130+ there’ll also be the 80’s and 90’s and that’s when he doesn’t kick goals. Look at Dusty, 3 rd average of 90 odd and not playing spectacularly. Why? He isn’t kicking goals.
I’d be surprised if the split went anywhere past a 60/40 mid forward and atm we’re seeing a 40/60 and 110 average.

Not disagreeing with your evaluation, but let me add to it.

Ablett was given his chance to fill that midfield roll and he broke down after 3 games.  What are the odds he and Danger swap roles when he gets back into fitness? Also note that Hawkins missed R5 and Menzel has missed rounds 5-7.  When Richmond need an extra target deep forward they don't have any1 but Dusty ... Geelong structure up differently.

Also the split by timemight be 40/60, but according to the Heat Map (via the AFL Live Pass) Danger has a perfect 50:50 split between forward and defense for possessions.

7 touches in the back 50
76 in the in the back half of midfield
55 in the forward half of midfield
29 in the forward 50

The key thing to note is his virtual absence in the back 50 compared to other mids.  6/7 of those touches came in Round 2 and 3 when Ablett , Menzel and Hawkins all played.

Will he get the opportunity to compete more in the back 50 when Menzel and Ablett return? Maybe wait till then to re-access and pick him up at a cheaper price? Happy to agree this is a wise choice for those that aren't convinced.

[ubeaut]

Signs looked good from Danger last week in second half. Will be a big game vs Pies and it may be the week he explodes.
Many said that last week mind you.

[Bluesalltheway]

Signs looked good from Danger last week in second half. Will be a big game vs Pies and it may be the week he explodes.
Many said that last week mind you.

People have been saying this for the last few weeks now. I have him, and have accepted the fact that due to injury or Geelong's team composition, he is simply playing forward for too much of the game to put together a consistent, 4-quarter game, let alone do that over a number of games.

[MontyJnr]

You’re only essential in the midfield if you are a genuine captaincy option.

I wouldn’t trust him anywhere near the C right now.

[Woppa15]

With Hawk out and it looking like Ablett will be back I’d almost guarantee Danger will play most of the game fwd against the Pies....

[Judd Magic]

With Hawk out and it looking like Ablett will be back I’d almost guarantee Danger will play most of the game fwd against the Pies....

[duffercoat]

Played a ripper first half tonight in the middle but then had to play forward once Ratugolea went down. I feel thats likely to force him forward more is going to return to scoring below his best. Does anyone know if the Cats have any other possible tall forwards they could bring in to let Danger play in the mids?

[MontyJnr]

Played a ripper first half tonight in the middle but then had to play forward once Ratugolea went down. I feel thats likely to force him forward more is going to return to scoring below his best. Does anyone know if the Cats have any other possible tall forwards they could bring in to let Danger play in the mids?

Along with Hawkins & Crameri, Geelong have played Taylor (late out tonight), Stanley (played ruck tonight) & Black (played defence tonight) up forward in the past. Buzza is another tall forward/ruck option who is playing VFL currently.

[Rusty00]

Played a ripper first half tonight in the middle but then had to play forward once Ratugolea went down. I feel thats likely to force him forward more is going to return to scoring below his best. Does anyone know if the Cats have any other possible tall forwards they could bring in to let Danger play in the mids?

Along with Hawkins & Crameri, Geelong have played Taylor (late out tonight), Stanley (played ruck tonight) & Black (played defence tonight) up forward in the past. Buzza is another tall forward/ruck option who is playing VFL currently.

Zac Smith could come back in as well. Menzel’s the one we need to come back to limit Danger’s forward time

[Maca24]

Played a ripper first half tonight in the middle but then had to play forward once Ratugolea went down. I feel thats likely to force him forward more is going to return to scoring below his best. Does anyone know if the Cats have any other possible tall forwards they could bring in to let Danger play in the mids?

Along with Hawkins & Crameri, Geelong have played Taylor (late out tonight), Stanley (played ruck tonight) & Black (played defence tonight) up forward in the past. Buzza is another tall forward/ruck option who is playing VFL currently.

Zac Smith could come back in as well. Menzel’s the one we need to come back to limit Danger’s forward time

Add Taylor back as well and structurally Danger will be a predominate mid

[sammy123]

Do people think jelwood to danger is to sideways. Was considering it come rd 14 as i only have 6 players out that round atm

[elephants]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Geelong play Zac Smith with Rhys Stanley fwd/ruck in the Rat role now

[PowerBug]

If you were told at the start of the season Danger would only go below 100 once from Rd 2 to Rd 21, and that was a 94, and miss no more games, would you have started with him?

I'm looking back on this one now and although at around the bye I was thinking it was a mistake to start him because he hasn't replicated last year, he's gone at 120 for the year, hit the ton 18/19 games and has started been in captaincy consideration on the run home. It was a saved trade, many that had him ended up fielding Holman's 90 in the first round because of it so didn't lose out there.

Has done alright I think, as long as he gets through the next 2 weeks of course :P