Top 5/10 Fowards, 2018 Thread.

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Adamant

Quote from: Menzel Washington on February 05, 2018, 12:07:54 AM
Haven't seen much talk about Mitch Wallis??

Averaged 98 in '15, then broke his leg in '16. Came back midway through last season and averaged an impressive 88 for someone who had snapped their leg. Surely will only get better again this year and push that back to the high 90's?

I brought him in after his second game back last year. He was pretty damn solid right up until Bevo played him purely as a defensive forward against the Giants in Rd 21, where he scored 37 before being dropped for the last two rounds. Destroyed my ranking.

You could put it down to a lack of a fitness base taking it's toll, but he does spend a lot of time up forward and Bevo likes his players being able to play multiple roles and the flexibility that comes with it. I think with Wallis' defensive mindset that he's always going to be one of the first players to play that role which rules him out for me. However, if someone like Libba were to go down I'd be very keen.

RaisyDaisy

What do people think about Jordan De Goey and Petracca as options this year?

Haven't seen too much talk about either of them, and that's understandable but they've been on my mind and I reckon JLT might show us if they are legit options to think about or not

I feel like if either or both them have big JLT's we could see a lot more teams with them

Whether they actually do though is remained to be seen

shaker


Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 05, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
What do people think about Jordan De Goey and Petracca as options this year?

Haven't seen too much talk about either of them, and that's understandable but they've been on my mind and I reckon JLT might show us if they are legit options to think about or not

I feel like if either or both them have big JLT's we could see a lot more teams with them

Whether they actually do though is remained to be seen

Petracca has the talent to be a top 6 forward, the problem is there's no cue to suggest when this will occur. 4 tons only last year, don't think you can make the leap of faith until he's proven himself. I'd be going Boak at a similar price, 7 years of 90+ & club captain. Had a poor year in 2017 but not terrible, still chalked up 10 scores of 90+.

Adamant

De Goey's had an interrupted pre-season after copping a knock to his hip flexor, which he had surgery on at the end of last year. Goldsack recently said he's "not as fit as he could be". The talent is certainly there but it doesn't look like the commitment is. Could be a tease his whole career.

shaker

Quote from: Adamant on February 05, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
De Goey's had an interrupted pre-season after copping a knock to his hip flexor, which he had surgery on at the end of last year. Goldsack recently said he's "not as fit as he could be". The talent is certainly there but it doesn't look like the commitment is. Could be a tease his whole career.
Probably a bit tongue in cheek from Goldsack only a knock but they were playing it safe think he will be cherry ripe for R1 bar any more mishaps but he does need to go bang in JLT , if he does he will be in a lot more teams

igotworms

De Goey certainly has the talent. After a slow start, in the last 7 rounds, finished off in the top 5 for Pies in clearances, score involvements, inside 50s, disposals, goals and scoreboard impact! Not sure if its overly relevant, but my mail is that he is on the outer with the leadership group. They are not happy with him whatsoever. Apparently attitude related! Personally, I will wait and see how he travels in the preseason and check in with my mate as to if his attitude has improved. Definitely due for a breakout year and his disposal has been on the up since his debut.
Petracca is in my team at present. Has spent more time in the midfield each year, attending 7% of centre clearances in 2016 to 29% last year. I think this is the year that he jumps into that Premium category!! Just my opinion of course.
Does anyone think Curnow, going in to his third year, is worth the coin? He finished off the year (Round 14+) as the second rated key forward behind Franklin and averaged 74!! I realise its a risky pick and there are probably better options, just wanted to get some feedback to confirm my doubts. (Or reaffirm my confidence)

shaker

Quote from: igotworms on February 05, 2018, 07:18:51 PM
De Goey certainly has the talent. After a slow start, in the last 7 rounds, finished off in the top 5 for Pies in clearances, score involvements, inside 50s, disposals, goals and scoreboard impact! Not sure if its overly relevant, but my mail is that he is on the outer with the leadership group. They are not happy with him whatsoever. Apparently attitude related! Personally, I will wait and see how he travels in the preseason and check in with my mate as to if his attitude has improved. Definitely due for a breakout year and his disposal has been on the up since his debut.
Petracca is in my team at present. Has spent more time in the midfield each year, attending 7% of centre clearances in 2016 to 29% last year. I think this is the year that he jumps into that Premium category!! Just my opinion of course.
Does anyone think Curnow, going in to his third year, is worth the coin? He finished off the year (Round 14+) as the second rated key forward behind Franklin and averaged 74!! I realise its a risky pick and there are probably better options, just wanted to get some feedback to confirm my doubts. (Or reaffirm my confidence)
Well if your sources are correct and has that bad an attitude the leadership group don't want a bar of him we have nothing to worry about he won't get a game  :P

igotworms

Would they be willing to overlook indiscretions or poor attitude in favour of talent? My "mail" coaches down there, so I would say that its fairly reliable! Time will tell I guess. Hopefully he pulls his head in and has a breakout year. He was tentatively holding a spot in the worms, but has since been replaced by Lobb!!

Torpedo10


Samsturmfels

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 05, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
What do people think about Jordan De Goey and Petracca as options this year?

Haven't seen too much talk about either of them, and that's understandable but they've been on my mind and I reckon JLT might show us if they are legit options to think about or not

I feel like if either or both them have big JLT's we could see a lot more teams with them

Whether they actually do though is remained to be seen
I have a strong feeling one of them will average 95+ just cant decide which one. Am leaning towards de goey due to his midfield time

crowls

Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 04, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 04, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on February 04, 2018, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 04, 2018, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2018, 11:00:28 AM
Anyone got the stones to start Stringer?

Being reported as "Jobes replacement" and doing a lot of inside mid work at training

G'day RD. I've got the stones. But think they may be rattling around my head approximately in between my ears. He's F4, Brayshaw is D4, batting 5 deep in the mids and set and forget in the ruck. All speculation and experimentation until we see game time. Cheers.
Ha. Is that instead of AhChee/Christenson or as well as?

Billings,  Dahl,  Lobb,  Stringer,  Higgins,  Rioli W.              RES    Battle,  Ryan L     Personally don't see Ah Chee or Christensen as likely to score high or make enough money and  would rather have Jack Graham in the mids for around the same price. Cheers.
Shhhhhh.
who wouldn't want a richmond life member in their starting team.....

SilverLion

Quote from: crowls on February 05, 2018, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 04, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 04, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on February 04, 2018, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 04, 2018, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2018, 11:00:28 AM
Anyone got the stones to start Stringer?

Being reported as "Jobes replacement" and doing a lot of inside mid work at training

G'day RD. I've got the stones. But think they may be rattling around my head approximately in between my ears. He's F4, Brayshaw is D4, batting 5 deep in the mids and set and forget in the ruck. All speculation and experimentation until we see game time. Cheers.
Ha. Is that instead of AhChee/Christenson or as well as?

Billings,  Dahl,  Lobb,  Stringer,  Higgins,  Rioli W.              RES    Battle,  Ryan L     Personally don't see Ah Chee or Christensen as likely to score high or make enough money and  would rather have Jack Graham in the mids for around the same price. Cheers.
Shhhhhh.
who wouldn't want a richmond life member in their starting team.....
+1

The bloke is incredibly overhyped, hasn't played anywhere near enough footy to know what he is capable of. At least with Christo you know what you'll get from him if he's fit.

Of course this is coming from someone who will likely be starting Witherden, so take it with a grain of salt ;D

quinny88

Quote from: SilverLion on February 05, 2018, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 05, 2018, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 04, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 04, 2018, 08:59:02 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on February 04, 2018, 08:34:20 PM
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on February 04, 2018, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2018, 11:00:28 AM
Anyone got the stones to start Stringer?

Being reported as "Jobes replacement" and doing a lot of inside mid work at training

G'day RD. I've got the stones. But think they may be rattling around my head approximately in between my ears. He's F4, Brayshaw is D4, batting 5 deep in the mids and set and forget in the ruck. All speculation and experimentation until we see game time. Cheers.
Ha. Is that instead of AhChee/Christenson or as well as?

Billings,  Dahl,  Lobb,  Stringer,  Higgins,  Rioli W.              RES    Battle,  Ryan L     Personally don't see Ah Chee or Christensen as likely to score high or make enough money and  would rather have Jack Graham in the mids for around the same price. Cheers.
Shhhhhh.
who wouldn't want a richmond life member in their starting team.....
+1

The bloke is incredibly overhyped, hasn't played anywhere near enough footy to know what he is capable of. At least with Christo you know what you'll get from him if he's fit.

Of course this is coming from someone who will likely be starting Witherden, so take it with a grain of salt ;D

I don't think he's overhyped, he's played 5 games (including a 3 goal performance in the grand final) and already looks like a 100 game player and natural leader. He's also a mid only so not being compared with Christensen but more Griffen and types around that price in the midfield. Graham averaged over 80 with only 14 touches a game. Tackling machine and hits the scoreboard so if he can increase his touches to 20 a game he could easily go 90-95.

In saying all of that I'm not starting him haha.

enzedder

Quote from: Menzel Washington on February 05, 2018, 12:07:54 AM
Haven't seen much talk about Mitch Wallis??

Averaged 98 in '15, then broke his leg in '16. Came back midway through last season and averaged an impressive 88 for someone who had snapped their leg. Surely will only get better again this year and push that back to the high 90's?
Will he get consistent games?
I see him as a fringe player. Not on my radar.