Toby Greene

[crowls]

I have no doubt he is quick, but the mind says don’t chase unless I have to; unless delivered on a platter, I’m not chasing. So many times in 2017 did we see it on TV

I think Billings will have free rein of the field like Heeney does. Hopefully, Greene’s tank will improve so he can be a moving target, rather than having to rove off Patton and Cameron, as well as put some forward pressure. Imo that is why he got frustrated and did silly things; just not fit enough

Toby ran a 15.2 beep test at the combine in his draft year and regularly finishes in the top 5 at the Giants in their time trials. I don't think fitness is a worry.

Kelly, Ward, Shiel, Coniglio, Hopper, Scully, Whitfield, Griffen, Setterfield with Taranto, Williams and a host of others capable of going through there as well. He's not getting near the midfield. He's an AA half forward. He ranks elite (or close to) in pretty much every category for his position.

Will he kick more goals? he already averages 3 per game. He even managed to reduce his clangers per game from last year (but still ranks top 20 in the competition out of players who have played at least 10 games) and goes at 60% DE. I don't see how he can possibly improve on what he did last season playing the same kind of role so all I'm seeing is downside here.

Remember though he is a forward and not a mid.  So 90-95 would be very high probability.  This will put him in top 10 fwds.    Real issue is will he play 22?   not a high probability.....   

[Adamant]

Is a 90-95 average worth the outlay of 528k though? Toby isn't a lock to be a top 10 forward, in fact very few of the 2017 top 10 crop are.

Toby Greene and Daniel Venables will cost you $652,000.
Daniel Wells and Josh Dunkley will cost you $687,800.

95 + 55 = 150
vs
90 + 80 = 170

Venables (priced at 22.5) +32.5
Wells (71.1) +18.9
Dunkley (54) +26

For 35k more I could have an extra 20 points per week, as well as a potential keeper in Wells. That's being conservative too. Last year Wells averaged more than Toby has in the past three seasons. Dunkley could come out and average 85 over the first two months and be an easy swap to a GC premo after their bye.

[Gandalf123]

Is a 90-95 average worth the outlay of 528k though? Toby isn't a lock to be a top 10 forward, in fact very few of the 2017 top 10 crop are.

Toby Greene and Daniel Venables will cost you $652,000.
Daniel Wells and Josh Dunkley will cost you $687,800.

95 + 55 = 150
vs
90 + 80 = 170

Venables (priced at 22.5) +32.5
Wells (71.1) +18.9
Dunkley (54) +26

For 35k more I could have an extra 20 points per week, as well as a potential keeper in Wells. That's being conservative too. Last year Wells averaged more than Toby has in the past three seasons. Dunkley could come out and average 85 over the first two months and be an easy swap to a GC premo after their bye.

You're a brave man if you're lining up with wellsy..

[quinny88]

Is a 90-95 average worth the outlay of 528k though? Toby isn't a lock to be a top 10 forward, in fact very few of the 2017 top 10 crop are.

Toby Greene and Daniel Venables will cost you $652,000.
Daniel Wells and Josh Dunkley will cost you $687,800.

95 + 55 = 150
vs
90 + 80 = 170

Venables (priced at 22.5) +32.5
Wells (71.1) +18.9
Dunkley (54) +26

For 35k more I could have an extra 20 points per week, as well as a potential keeper in Wells. That's being conservative too. Last year Wells averaged more than Toby has in the past three seasons. Dunkley could come out and average 85 over the first two months and be an easy swap to a GC premo after their bye.

You're a brave man if you're lining up with wellsy..

Wells will average 90 for the 12 games he manages to play for the year. would much rather Greene and Venables

[Money Shot]

Danger 750k (125) + Rookie 123k (60) = 185 points and $863,000 cash give or take.
Heppell 550k (105) + O'meara (90) = 195 points and 863,000 cash give or take.

I know which one I would take.

Points are important but so is having the best possible players in your team come seasons end and the way to do that is by having cheaper guys like Venables to make the quick cash even if it is with a 55 average.

that is just my opinion anyways.

[crowls]

Danger 750k (125) + Rookie 123k (60) = 185 points and $863,000 cash give or take.
Heppell 550k (105) + O'meara (90) = 195 points and 863,000 cash give or take.

I know which one I would take.

Points are important but so is having the best possible players in your team come seasons end and the way to do that is by having cheaper guys like Venables to make the quick cash even if it is with a 55 average.

that is just my opinion anyways.

also the raison d'etre of GNR approach.    Proven strategy over the years.

[meow meow]

I know a guy who thinks Tobes is the greatest player alive. Showed that he could average 130 if played in the mids, but he decided that he'd rather be an All Australian forward who is #1 in the league for score assists. So selfless! What a gun, a true team player.

[SilverLion]

I know a guy who thinks Tobes is the greatest player alive. Showed that he could average 130 if played in the mids, but he decided that he'd rather be an All Australian forward who is #1 in the league for score assists. So selfless! What a gun, a true team player.

::)

[Trindacut]

I know a guy who thinks Tobes is the greatest player alive. Showed that he could average 130 if played in the mids, but he decided that he'd rather be an All Australian forward who is #1 in the league for score assists. So selfless! What a gun, a true team player.

Who's the guy? You? :P


I'll be starting with him again. Too good not to get, and hopefully he doesn't get suspended this year.

[js19]

Danger 750k (125) + Rookie 123k (60) = 185 points and $863,000 cash give or take.
Heppell 550k (105) + O'meara (90) = 195 points and 863,000 cash give or take.

I know which one I would take.

Points are important but so is having the best possible players in your team come seasons end and the way to do that is by having cheaper guys like Venables to make the quick cash even if it is with a 55 average.

that is just my opinion anyways.

also the raison d'etre of GNR approach.    Proven strategy over the years.

Been stuck with mid-pricers that aren't good enough to keep, but not bad enough to be my biggest problem too many times - eats your soul

[crowls]

Danger 750k (125) + Rookie 123k (60) = 185 points and $863,000 cash give or take.
Heppell 550k (105) + O'meara (90) = 195 points and 863,000 cash give or take.

I know which one I would take.

Points are important but so is having the best possible players in your team come seasons end and the way to do that is by having cheaper guys like Venables to make the quick cash even if it is with a 55 average.

that is just my opinion anyways.

also the raison d'etre of GNR approach.    Proven strategy over the years.

Been stuck with mid-pricers that aren't good enough to keep, but not bad enough to be my biggest problem too many times - eats your soul

[SilverLion]

Danger 750k (125) + Rookie 123k (60) = 185 points and $863,000 cash give or take.
Heppell 550k (105) + O'meara (90) = 195 points and 863,000 cash give or take.

I know which one I would take.

Points are important but so is having the best possible players in your team come seasons end and the way to do that is by having cheaper guys like Venables to make the quick cash even if it is with a 55 average.

that is just my opinion anyways.

also the raison d'etre of GNR approach.    Proven strategy over the years.

Been stuck with mid-pricers that aren't good enough to keep, but not bad enough to be my biggest problem too many times - eats your soul

;D

[ronl]

Don't expect him to mature, grow up, call it what you like.   He's a nut case, pure and simple. Always was, always will be. Can't help being a thug, it's in his DNA.  My hope this year is that someone will finally wipe that smug grin off his face. ;)

[Trindacut]

I think he's just a bit stupid.

There will be a lot of focus on him this year but the new MRP makes it less likely for him to get suspended for the stuff he does as they are generally footy acts and toe the line a bit.

[enzedder]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-01-12/its-a-little-bit-slower-than-wed-like

No major concern atm but not ideal either.
Article also mentions Lobb isn't in full training either.