SC Team 2018 Edition

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SilverLion

Quote from: PassivePenguin on January 05, 2018, 11:17:48 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 05, 2018, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: PassivePenguin on January 05, 2018, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2018, 10:42:52 AM
Love your teams structure and love every pick in your team apart from Gray. I know you have said that he has scored 110 in the past but I would prefer to wait and see and pick him up after his bye (along with Barlow) as I think they both could go 100+ but think that the likes of Heeney, Franklin, Billings and Greene are more likely too. That is just my opinion however.

With the rucks I agree that it could be a position where you could get ahead of the pack but in saying that Gawn is a real chance at being the number 1 ruck come seasons end so you need to lock him in and Nic Nat is just too cheap to ignore for mine.

Look at Big Boy McEvoy if you want a real pod ;) I think he could be a top 3-4 ruck this season.

In terms of forwards if I turn W.Rioli into a 117 Rookie, I have enough in the bank to turn my Forward line into..
Heeney, Greene, Billings as the premiums. Would you say this is better? All 3 have potential to be in the top 5 of forwards so this could be another avenue I go through.

Big Boy McEvoy is an interesting pick but there was a period between Rd.9 and 16 where his scores were subpar so it might be a consistency issue. Also worried about Ceglar who might get stints in the ruck.
Would steer clear of Greene personally, safer options available.

Greene is a pick due to the fact he is in his contract year and there have been reports that he could be looking at a $1 million contract. With changes to the MRP his suspensions could lessen and he is arguably GWS most important player. Turning 25, hitting the prime of his career.

basically Contract Year = Big Big Year (i.e Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe in the 2nd half of the year)
Can happen, just don't trust the bloke myself. Know what his temperament is like, I'd be concerned having a player like that in my team all season. Specially with options like Franklin, Menegola etc. being available.

However, he is of course a good enough player to average 100+ and could well be a great pick. Risk vs. Reward, and in SC its generally the risk takers that do well ;)

Money Shot

Quote from: SilverLion on January 05, 2018, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: PassivePenguin on January 05, 2018, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2018, 10:42:52 AM
Love your teams structure and love every pick in your team apart from Gray. I know you have said that he has scored 110 in the past but I would prefer to wait and see and pick him up after his bye (along with Barlow) as I think they both could go 100+ but think that the likes of Heeney, Franklin, Billings and Greene are more likely too. That is just my opinion however.

With the rucks I agree that it could be a position where you could get ahead of the pack but in saying that Gawn is a real chance at being the number 1 ruck come seasons end so you need to lock him in and Nic Nat is just too cheap to ignore for mine.

Look at Big Boy McEvoy if you want a real pod ;) I think he could be a top 3-4 ruck this season.

In terms of forwards if I turn W.Rioli into a 117 Rookie, I have enough in the bank to turn my Forward line into..
Heeney, Greene, Billings as the premiums. Would you say this is better? All 3 have potential to be in the top 5 of forwards so this could be another avenue I go through.

Big Boy McEvoy is an interesting pick but there was a period between Rd.9 and 16 where his scores were subpar so it might be a consistency issue. Also worried about Ceglar who might get stints in the ruck.
Would steer clear of Greene personally, safer options available.
Yeah, Heeney or Billings would be your safest bet along with Franklin for top 5. I am personally taking the risk with Greene and banking on him not getting suspended haha. If he plays every game he will score 2200 points in my opinion which will put him in the top 5 forwards. Just comes down to whether or not he will get suspended.

He is also in his contract year which means he could do a Josh Kelly or Dustin Martin and absolutely kill it.

SilverLion

Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2018, 11:22:45 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on January 05, 2018, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: PassivePenguin on January 05, 2018, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2018, 10:42:52 AM
Love your teams structure and love every pick in your team apart from Gray. I know you have said that he has scored 110 in the past but I would prefer to wait and see and pick him up after his bye (along with Barlow) as I think they both could go 100+ but think that the likes of Heeney, Franklin, Billings and Greene are more likely too. That is just my opinion however.

With the rucks I agree that it could be a position where you could get ahead of the pack but in saying that Gawn is a real chance at being the number 1 ruck come seasons end so you need to lock him in and Nic Nat is just too cheap to ignore for mine.

Look at Big Boy McEvoy if you want a real pod ;) I think he could be a top 3-4 ruck this season.

In terms of forwards if I turn W.Rioli into a 117 Rookie, I have enough in the bank to turn my Forward line into..
Heeney, Greene, Billings as the premiums. Would you say this is better? All 3 have potential to be in the top 5 of forwards so this could be another avenue I go through.

Big Boy McEvoy is an interesting pick but there was a period between Rd.9 and 16 where his scores were subpar so it might be a consistency issue. Also worried about Ceglar who might get stints in the ruck.
Would steer clear of Greene personally, safer options available.
Yeah, Heeney or Billings would be your safest bet along with Franklin for top 5. I am personally taking the risk with Greene and banking on him not getting suspended haha. If he plays every game he will score 2200 points in my opinion which will put him in the top 5 forwards. Just comes down to whether or not he will get suspended.

He is also in his contract year which means he could do a Josh Kelly or Dustin Martin and absolutely kill it.
+1

Greene the no. 1 risk vs. reward option up forward this year, maybe along with Walters.

PassivePenguin

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+1

Greene the no. 1 risk vs. reward option up forward this year, maybe along with Walters.

Greene is a risk but his risk is probably worth taking when compared to other forwards. For example

Menegola -  probably won't have as much mid time if they are splitting it between Dangerfield, Ablett, J.Selwood, S.Selwood, Duncan etc... He is also I would say at his most expensive at this point so he should drop to a more reasonable price later in the season

Franklin - Well he is KPF and last season he was too much of a rollercoaster for my liking. Cost me a few games when I had him so for this year I am steering clear of KPF.

Gray - I will probably bring in after Rd.10

Wingard - has the talent but probably won't get much midfield time with the new recruits coming in.

JJK - KPF = No

Dahlhaus - Will look to bring in during the season after I have seen his form with McLean in the side.

The rest of the forwards are more speculative picks rather than safe picks for the top 5.

Money Shot

Exactly. At least with Greene you know your'e going to get a 95 average minimum with a decent chance of a 100+ average in his contract year as well as him going into his prime. The only question is will he be suspended and I would rather take the risk on that then with guys like Dahlhaus, Barlow and Gray who are out of form.

Peter

No risk, no gain. A very close watch is required on Greene

SilverLion

Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Exactly. At least with Greene you know your'e going to get a 95 average minimum with a decent chance of a 100+ average in his contract year as well as him going into his prime. The only question is will he be suspended and I would rather take the risk on that then with guys like Dahlhaus, Barlow and Gray who are out of form.
Very true. I think you guys have put him ahead of a few forwards now in my mind ;D

Still probably won't start with him though :P

SilverLion

Quote from: Peter on January 05, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
No risk, no gain. A very close watch is required on Greene
Agreed. Hes the type of player who may warrant a trade in at around round 6-8, like Yeo last year, if his form warrants it.

PassivePenguin

Quote from: SilverLion on January 05, 2018, 05:34:19 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 05, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
Exactly. At least with Greene you know your'e going to get a 95 average minimum with a decent chance of a 100+ average in his contract year as well as him going into his prime. The only question is will he be suspended and I would rather take the risk on that then with guys like Dahlhaus, Barlow and Gray who are out of form.
Very true. I think you guys have put him ahead of a few forwards now in my mind ;D

Still probably won't start with him though :P
Hahaha it was worth a shot though

Quote from: SilverLion on January 05, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Peter on January 05, 2018, 04:27:55 PM
No risk, no gain. A very close watch is required on Greene
Agreed. Hes the type of player who may warrant a trade in at around round 6-8, like Yeo last year, if his form warrants it.

Now if he could gain the same consistency as Yeo had at the start of the season last year then I can see this happening. I kind of want to him to be a pod though until atleast his bye  :P but I guess if he averaging 100+ it won't happen unless people are wary of possible suspensions, I know I was like that last season.

As a left field option in the midfield If I say I wanted to free up money  ::) what do you guys think about Zach Merrett? Saw a start before that said of the 13(?) 600k+ premiums, Ablett, Dangerfield and Merrett were the only ones who stayed above 600k for the next season which may tell a story.
Ablett scored a 200 which may have inflated his average quite a bit
Dangerfield is Dangerfield he wasn't going to drop
Merrett is the interesting one

The player I was thinking about was Martin. In the arguably best season ever by an individual player he averaged 119, I am not too sure that this is too sustainable and that he will rise to new heights so the only other option is for him to drop. There was a bit of a patch earlier in the season where he dropped to about 519k which was due to how variable his play style could cause his scores to fluctuate. Last season was also the first and only season where he got an average of 110+

Do you guys think Martin will continue with his run of form, or do you think he will be picked up for much cheaper?
Also apart from last year, Almost every time he has faced the blues in Rd.1 he has scored poorly. This could mean that his price will have a chance of dropping fairly early on.

Peter

I agree with doubts on Martin and taken him out of RDT and AF. Imo, the issue is trying to get him in when he does fire and you try to solve other team problems and you get him too late, rather than set and forget. A real gamble

PassivePenguin

Had to make a bit of change with Bennell looking like he probably won't play round 1 if the incident is deemed punishment worthy. Bennell went up to Lobb, Hurley and Yeo down to Simpson and L.McDonald. McDonald is looking like he is going to be playing midfield for North and at 22 years of age, he might be due for a breakout year. So here is a quick update on the team

DEF: Laird, Simpson, McDonald, Birchall, O'Shea, Murray (Doedee, Goddard)
MID: Dangerfield, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, Ah Chee, LDU, Kelly (Ahern, Garlett, Worpel)
RUC: Gawn, Naitanui (Olango)
FWD: Heeney, Greene, Billings, Lobb, Higgins, Venables (Rioli, Ryan)
Bank: $4000

Tried to keep the bye structure somewhat similar (4, 4, 6) while also keeping the whole "Top 5 in each position" mentality
Tell me what you guys think about McDonald as a bit of a PoD pick and whether he will breakout.

crowls

Good thinking with McDonald and if he does move to mids could pay off well.   However by the time this works out your oppenents will be bringing him in mitigating the gain.   Not many def options available to anyone who looks like breaking out especially through role change will be jumped on.    Why take the risk?

PassivePenguin

Quote from: crowls on January 09, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Good thinking with McDonald and if he does move to mids could pay off well.   However by the time this works out your oppenents will be bringing him in mitigating the gain.   Not many def options available to anyone who looks like breaking out especially through role change will be jumped on.    Why take the risk?

I love me some out of contract breakout candidates  ;D ;D. But in all seriousness I wouldn't call him too big a risk when compared to other players. I imagine by the time people start bringing him in he should be about 500k (if he has worked out) which is about a 40k gain on the rest of the competition plus I may have a look at other fallen premiums by the time they are bringing McDonald in (for example I doubt Hurley at 563k and Yeo at 561k will stay at their prices for long).

If McDonald does burst out of the gates it puts me in a better position. I would say the first round you will see him going into teams will be at a minimum of round 7-9 when rookies have gone up a bit in price (unless there are those willing to trade their premiums for a speculative pick) so that gives me more that enough time to cash in on this point of difference.

McDonald is also 100k less than Hurley and Yeo which is a great turn over meaning I can use that money else where (turning Bennell into Lobb who is looking like a Premium pick at F4). Thus turning 13 premiums into 14 premiums possibly 1 premo pick ahead of the pack.

crowls

Quote from: PassivePenguin on January 09, 2018, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: crowls on January 09, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Good thinking with McDonald and if he does move to mids could pay off well.   However by the time this works out your oppenents will be bringing him in mitigating the gain.   Not many def options available to anyone who looks like breaking out especially through role change will be jumped on.    Why take the risk?

I love me some out of contract breakout candidates  ;D ;D . But in all seriousness I wouldn't call him too big a risk when compared to other players. I imagine by the time people start bringing him in he should be about 500k (if he has worked out) which is about a 40k gain on the rest of the competition plus I may have a look at other fallen premiums by the time they are bringing McDonald in (for example I doubt Hurley at 563k and Yeo at 561k will stay at their prices for long).

If McDonald does burst out of the gates it puts me in a better position. I would say the first round you will see him going into teams will be at a minimum of round 7-9 when rookies have gone up a bit in price (unless there are those willing to trade their premiums for a speculative pick) so that gives me more that enough time to cash in on this point of difference.

McDonald is also 100k less than Hurley and Yeo which is a great turn over meaning I can use that money else where (turning Bennell into Lobb who is looking like a Premium pick at F4). Thus turning 13 premiums into 14 premiums possibly 1 premo pick ahead of the pack.
Fair points.  Like you I am not starting Hurley or Yeo,  will be good value upgrades at some stage.

Money Shot

McDonald is someone I have looked at and I really like him. He is going to have a bigger role in a developing team and he also will have natural development as well.

At worst you cop a 85avg and keep him at D6 all year but he could easily go to that 90-95 range meaning you get a player at 50k less than what he is worth and as you said get an extra premium in Lobb.

Good pick and nice side overall mate.