The Value Forwards

Started by Money Shot, December 14, 2017, 03:25:15 PM

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crowls

Lobb a starter and will consider Bennell as we get closer to rnd 1 if i need to find $$$ as rookies shake out..  none of the others...

enzedder

Good thread. The pre season will help sort this out a bit.
Bennell and Christensen are the two I'm most interested in, though Lobb as a ruck in the SF and PF basically tripled his hit outs and doubled his SC points so there is that.
Robbo is another fwd to consider, not sure what he's worth, but averaged 91 in R1-6 last year before 29pts injured R7 and didn't play again for the year. No Rocky now. Had 29 possessions tagging Dusty and then followed that up with a couple of SC 100+s rotating on the ball. Has M/F DPP.
The forwards are worth discussion.

Money Shot

Quote from: LordSneeze on December 14, 2017, 04:43:59 PM
Ill look into them, but really pessimistic that they will be good picks. Lobb possible if he takes the R1 role.
Same! I see so much upside in all of them but history suggests none of them are worth looking into. lobb and Ah Chee are in a different category as they could go big with a role change rather than being cheap due to injury.

Holz

basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.


iZander

Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

Football Factory

Quote from: iZander on December 15, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

+1

SilverLion

Ah Chee could be this year's WHE, or he may not. Think he is the type of guy we need to see in the JLT before deciding.
Christensen and Bennell are basically locks IMO if they are named Rd. 1.
Lobb is a lock if he is named sole ruck Rd. 1.
Picking Rioli would be like picking Birchall down back, I question the value as he won't be a keeper.
Deledio and Stringer I wouldn't even consider.


Holz

Quote from: Football Factory on December 15, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on December 15, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

+1

he is 400k though, not 250k.

at 400k he needs to be a premo and im not convinced he is that.

Koop

Quote from: SilverLion on December 15, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
Ah Chee could be this year's WHE, or he may not. Think he is the type of guy we need to see in the JLT before deciding.

Yep this. Not going anywhere near if a small forward like at Port, but finished second in the Magaery despite missing 5 games as a MID and had scores of 66, 128, 107, 88 & 93 (96.4) unsubbed in his first year at Port when he played midfield. Could be a massive value pick & I'm surprised more haven't caught on yet. Moved solely for more first team opportunities/one of the Mitchell/Priddis spots.

Football Factory

#24
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on December 15, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on December 15, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

+1

he is 400k though, not 250k.

at 400k he needs to be a premo and im not convinced he is that.

Think he has a good chance, unfortunately I don't have a crystal ball. Not sure if any of those guys mentioned are potential keepers, Lobb is my fave out of them though. If Bennell manages to play full games round 1 and 2 what's the bet he get's rested for the 3rd.

enzedder

Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on December 15, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on December 15, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

+1

he is 400k though, not 250k.

at 400k he needs to be a premo and im not convinced he is that.
Early days but Lobb has the potential to be #1 fwd if he plays as #1 ruck.
Based on 2 games so it’s not ironclad but he is a pre season must watch.

crowls

Quote from: Koop on December 15, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on December 15, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
Ah Chee could be this year's WHE, or he may not. Think he is the type of guy we need to see in the JLT before deciding.

Yep this. Not going anywhere near if a small forward like at Port, but finished second in the Magaery despite missing 5 games as a MID and had scores of 66, 128, 107, 88 & 93 (96.4) unsubbed in his first year at Port when he played midfield. Could be a massive value pick & I'm surprised more haven't caught on yet. Moved solely for more first team opportunities/one of the Mitchell/Priddis spots.
Good info Koop,  time for me look at him more closely.   

Grufflez

Quote from: iZander on December 15, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

Exactly, i really really just can't believe Holz that you see no value in Lobb, his sample games as sole ruck were great sc results.
Other sc sites have shown stats that Lobb also has a fantastic HOTA% which after the ruck scoring system changes a few year back
is pretty much the be all end all to the top rucks scoring, 5 points if it lands on a midfielders chest, none if you shark it.

Grufflez

Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 02:53:27 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on December 15, 2017, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: iZander on December 15, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
basically got all of them at the top of my radar except Lobb 400k is too much. Dont like the forward premos either so makes it an even early decision.

Always take the risk on guys who are a risk of injury over guys who are risk of scoring.

People are punting on Menegola at 550k who will be good but its just as risky.

Menegola  + 120k fwd + 120k fwd

give me

Bennel + Ah Chee + Christon +50k in the bank at this stage.



lets say

90 60 60

v

75 75 75

remember the rookies you are getting are not the best 2-3 options its the 4-5 best fwd rookies you are picking up.
IF lobb lines up sole ruck round 1 then hes less of a scoring risk than Christo/Ah chee and without the injury risk. IMO anyway

+1

he is 400k though, not 250k.

at 400k he needs to be a premo and im not convinced he is that.

I expect a 100+ ave.

Grufflez

Quote from: Koop on December 15, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on December 15, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
Ah Chee could be this year's WHE, or he may not. Think he is the type of guy we need to see in the JLT before deciding.

Yep this. Not going anywhere near if a small forward like at Port, but finished second in the Magaery despite missing 5 games as a MID and had scores of 66, 128, 107, 88 & 93 (96.4) unsubbed in his first year at Port when he played midfield. Could be a massive value pick & I'm surprised more haven't caught on yet. Moved solely for more first team opportunities/one of the Mitchell/Priddis spots.

Between Redden, Sheed and Ah Chee all those points are going to be gobbled up.