SilverLions 2018

[SilverLion]

$100k  :-[
Oh well $100 still helps.
Like the Danger side more.
As an aside, why are you multiple quoting in one post for. Sure it's tidier but in your situation that's a couple of posts that went begging.  ;D

just what I was thinking when I was reading SL's post.    glad you pointed it out for him NZ.

The important thing is, I know what to do next time ;)

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Btw SL how do you do multiple quotes in a post?   

[SilverLion]

Btw SL how do you do multiple quotes in a post?   

When typing a message you can scroll down to the last few posts, you can use the Insert Quote button (next to the poster of each message) to add multiple into one message.

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Btw SL how do you do multiple quotes in a post?   

When typing a message you can scroll down to the last few posts, you can use the Insert Quote button (next to the poster of each message) to add multiple into one message.

thanks mate.   i have been cutting and pasting.   

[Money Shot]

Agree with others, Dangerfield side has a lot less Danger ;)

Think Gawn is a must personally as in 2016 he score 140+ on seven occasions with only three games below 80 (1 being his first game of the season) so if you don't want to start both Nic Nat and Gawn i would look at getting rid of Nic Nat.

For what it's worth I don't think O'shea will play round 1 as he is comfortably behind Marchbank, Weitering, Jones and Plowman and will only get games if one of them doesn't. No way we can fit 5 medium/tall defenders in one side.

Duncan and Zorko I can't split both will be in that top 5-10 range of picks I believe so can't go wrong with either.

Menegola I don't like however you have said that you are confident on him so that is fair enough. Danger, Selwood, Duncan and Ablett all look capable and likely to score 105+ with Blicavs and Scott Selwood to get a chunk of midfield minutes and therefore points as well. Menegola is the most likely to get points taken off him as his midfield minutes lessen. With premiums you should be picking guys that you are most certain about and Menegola is one of the top forwards im least confident about to be honest with him playing less than 30 games at AFL level. As I said though if you are confident then so be it ;)

[SilverLion]

Btw SL how do you do multiple quotes in a post?   

When typing a message you can scroll down to the last few posts, you can use the Insert Quote button (next to the poster of each message) to add multiple into one message.

thanks mate.   i have been cutting and pasting.

No worries :)

[SilverLion]

Agree with others, Dangerfield side has a lot less Danger ;)

Think Gawn is a must personally as in 2016 he score 140+ on seven occasions with only three games below 80 (1 being his first game of the season) so if you don't want to start both Nic Nat and Gawn i would look at getting rid of Nic Nat.

For what it's worth I don't think O'shea will play round 1 as he is comfortably behind Marchbank, Weitering, Jones and Plowman and will only get games if one of them doesn't. No way we can fit 5 medium/tall defenders in one side.

Duncan and Zorko I can't split both will be in that top 5-10 range of picks I believe so can't go wrong with either.

Menegola I don't like however you have said that you are confident on him so that is fair enough. Danger, Selwood, Duncan and Ablett all look capable and likely to score 105+ with Blicavs and Scott Selwood to get a chunk of midfield minutes and therefore points as well. Menegola is the most likely to get points taken off him as his midfield minutes lessen. With premiums you should be picking guys that you are most certain about and Menegola is one of the top forwards im least confident about to be honest with him playing less than 30 games at AFL level. As I said though if you are confident then so be it ;)

I do like Gawn, upon revising he seems to be well underpriced this year so will probably roll with him.

Re: O'Shea, interesting thought he'd be the one to fill in Docherty's position, is Mullett ahead of him IYO?

Yeah the Duncan/Zorko one is going to be a tough one to call :(. Think I'll go with Duncan which will give me 3 mids that this year only went below 90 eight times between them all season.

Menegola has a career average of 99.85 across his 25 games. Hes 25, will be 26 by the time next year starts. 26 is the age I believe most players hit their peak at.

Across last year, when Jelwood was in the side, I don't think Menegola's average was that bad:
94, 126, 88, 103, 95, 82, 89, 107, 42, 88, 82, 68, 124, 113

Average of 96.8 if we exclude the 42.

I would say if he were to average around the same that would be a pass mark. How many forwards can you would be confident would average higher?

Yes he will most likely miss out on some midfield minutes, but he'll be in the midfield more than Ablett definitely. I can see Ablett spending a large amount of time forward, with J. Selwood, Menegola and S. Selwood taking the largest amounts of mid time. Danger will probably spend large amounts of time forward also.

Here are my thoughts on the other Top 10 forwards:

Franklin: Solid choice, but is a KPP so you know it'll be a rollercoaster with lots of lows and lots of highs. Good player to pick up after a low midyear.

Heeney: Another solid choice, but has a bad injury history and will have an interrupted pre-season. He has managed to find himself back into my side for now due to lack of other options.

Greene: Will no doubt miss games regularly, and even when he doesn't is also a renown inconsistent scorer. (Also I can't stand him :P)

JJK: Same as Franklin, probably more lows though.

Wingard: Possibly, but need to see where he fits in with Port's new lineup. (Can't stand him either though :P)

Billings: Like him a lot, showed enough last year for me to be convinced he will continue to improve. Should be a certainty for 95+ which is good enough for me.

Gray: Same deal as Wingard, probably less likely due to coming off a cancer scare.

Dixon: Same as JJK, Franklin.

Dahlhaus: Not sure, his year last year was poor by his standards but we know he can do better. However I feel Menegola is a safer pick. Am considering him though.

[SilverLion]

Liked how MS decided to a write up on their locks, so thought I'd do the same ;D

Defence:


Rory Laird ($550,800): Next year will mark the third season in a row I have started with Laird. He is the type of player that is perfect for SC, gathering cheap possessions in the backline whether playing as the spare or as the 'quarterback'.  Has averaged 93.8, 96.8 and 100.2 the last three seasons respectively and will no doubt be amongst the top few defenders come seasons end. Smith and Lever leaving will IMO have minimal influence on Laird's numbers, as Seedsman will likely come in for Smith and Gibbs will likely pitch in a cross half back also. Reads the play far too well to be tagged, and would be behind Sloane, Gibbs and the Crouches for those honours anyways.

Zac Williams ($516,200): With the departure of Wilson and Shaw coming towards the end, GWS will require a greater output from Williams as the key roaming half back. He already lifted his output from 88.2 in 2016 to 93.9 this year and all signs point to this continuing to increase. He has shown that he doesn't need to rack up huge amounts of possessions to pump out solid scores, only averaging 22 disposals a game in 2017. With greater responsibility on him I would definitely expect that to increase, and in doing so would no doubt put Williams right in the frame to be a top 5 defender.

Alex Witherden ($478,900): He may have only played 9 games, but we have already seen enough of this kid to know what he can do. Averaging 23 disposals and 87.1 SC as an 18 year old is no small feat, and his performances didn't go unnoticed (currently the joint favorite for the Rising Star next year). His consistency over his 9 games was exceptionable, with his lowest game being 69 where he got injured in the early stages on the final quarter. With a full preseason under his belt and the experience of Hodge guiding him, I believe Witherden has the potential to be Brisbane's replacement for Docherty, and could easily finish the season with an 95+ average.

Also in contention: Hurley, Savage and Hanley.

[SilverLion]

Midfield:

Tom Mitchell ($653,500): Had him from the start llast season and was far and away my pick of the year. Exceeded expectations in only going under 100 twice for the year (85 and 98), his consistency was incredible and was my first picked for this season. Reliable Captain choice week-in week-out (even for sides with Danger in them, this guy is the perfect fallback) and is a lock for me for next year.

Matt Crouch ($608,300): Watched this guy closely in the second half of last season, and his incredibly consistency has earned himself a spot in my starting side for 2018. From Round 10 onwards, Crouch only went under 100 once (with a 91 in Rd. 22) and I can't see why this form wouldn't continue. The addition of Gibbs should only help Crouch, as the focus of opposition teams will be shifted to now not only Sloane, but him also. This will IMO put Crouch third in line to be tagged, meaning he should be able to rack up huge numbers on regular basis. Lastly he was Adelaide's best player on Grand Final day, and will no doubt have a point to prove next season.

Nathan Fyfe ($597,900): Fyfe repaid the faith in the second half this year, averaging 121.3 after the bye. With that in mind he is probably slightly under priced as he should average 110+ next season. Should be in everyone's side and was one of my first picked.

Patrick Cripps ($537,300): Well underpriced after an injury plagued 2017. Should continue to improve in 2018, and with the absene of Gibbs in the midfield he will no doubt play a greater role. Should easily average 100+ and at that price should be considered a lock in most teams.

Also in contention: Dangerfield, Zorko, Duncan, Coniglio. Will be probably be picking two of these guys, which two will depend on how rest of team is structured. Leaning towards Duncan, Coniglio at this stage. Due to none of these guys being locks, decided not to do a write up on them yet.

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Not sold on Witherden 480K for someone that has played 9 games he was great this year but you ever heard of the 2nd year blues ? to big of risk for me at that price and the more teams that I see flirting with not starting Danger gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside  ;D

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Midfield:

Tom Mitchell ($653,500): Had him from the start llast season and was far and away my pick of the year. Exceeded expectations in only going under 100 twice for the year (85 and 98), his consistency was incredible and was my first picked for this season. Reliable Captain choice week-in week-out (even for sides with Danger in them, this guy is the perfect fallback) and is a lock for me for next year.

Matt Crouch ($608,300): Watched this guy closely in the second half of last season, and his incredibly consistency has earned himself a spot in my starting side for 2018. From Round 10 onwards, Crouch only went under 100 once (with a 91 in Rd. 22) and I can't see why this form wouldn't continue. The addition of Gibbs should only help Crouch, as the focus of opposition teams will be shifted to now not only Sloane, but him also. This will IMO put Crouch third in line to be tagged, meaning he should be able to rack up huge numbers on regular basis. Lastly he was Adelaide's best player on Grand Final day, and will no doubt have a point to prove next season.

Nathan Fyfe ($597,900): Fyfe repaid the faith in the second half this year, averaging 121.3 after the bye. With that in mind he is probably slightly under priced as he should average 110+ next season. Should be in everyone's side and was one of my first picked.

Patrick Cripps ($537,300): Well underpriced after an injury plagued 2017. Should continue to improve in 2018, and with the absene of Gibbs in the midfield he will no doubt play a greater role. Should easily average 100+ and at that price should be considered a lock in most teams.

Also in contention: Dangerfield, Zorko, Duncan, Coniglio. Will be probably be picking two of these guys, which two will depend on how rest of team is structured. Leaning towards Duncan, Coniglio at this stage. Due to none of these guys being locks, decided not to do a write up on them yet.

Those 4 players that you have highlighted are magnificent selections and I completely agree with your reasoning. I will almost definitely start Mitchell, Cripps and Fyfe. Another factor to consider is the byes. In R12 the teams with the byes are Carlton, Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs and West Coast Eagles. For extra balance throughout the byes it's important to take a couple of quality mids from these teams. IMO Mitchell and Cripps are the best two on offer. Bont is the other to consider. Presently I don't have MCrouch as I'm planning on having Dangerfield, Martin and Fyfe who all have the R14 bye. For me to have MCrouch I'd drop Dusty and pocket 48k... if I need a cash grab to set up my R1 team this is a definite option.

[DCAK]

Not sold on Witherden 480K for someone that has played 9 games he was great this year but you ever heard of the 2nd year blues ? to big of risk for me at that price and the more teams that I see flirting with not starting Danger gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside  ;D

Amen to that. You’ve only got 9 games worth of data to base the decision to spend $480k on this guy. No thank you.

[enzedder]

Not sold on Witherden 480K for someone that has played 9 games he was great this year but you ever heard of the 2nd year blues ? to big of risk for me at that price and the more teams that I see flirting with not starting Danger gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside  ;D

Amen to that. You’ve only got 9 games worth of data to base the decision to spend $480k on this guy. No thank you.

Personally I don’t mind the pick as I think he’ll be elite and improve on what he’s already shown. I’ll start others though and look to him as an upgrade target if he is one of the top defenders.

[Money Shot]

Not sold on Witherden 480K for someone that has played 9 games he was great this year but you ever heard of the 2nd year blues ? to big of risk for me at that price and the more teams that I see flirting with not starting Danger gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside  ;D

Amen to that. You’ve only got 9 games worth of data to base the decision to spend $480k on this guy. No thank you.

Personally I don’t mind the pick as I think he’ll be elite and improve on what he’s already shown. I’ll start others though and look to him as an upgrade target if he is one of the top defenders.

This.

Menegola and Witherden have played less than 40 games between them which is a tiny sample size.

Scott has come out and publicly said that both Danger and Ablett will be midfielders first and forwards second. Joel Selwood will pretty much play only midfield which means that Menegola will play predominately forward in my eyes and I just think there are much safer options.

Witherden looks like a gun but again wouldn't you prefer a proven scorer than a guy who has played 9 games in his life.

When picking premiums at the start of the season you want guys you can trust and if you think you can trust those two players mentioned above but i certainly can't at this stage anyways.

[Money Shot]

And regarding your question I think Mullet and Byrne would be more likely to take Docherty's role in my opinion. But I am just a fan looking from the outside.