Money Shot 2018

Ashmore62 · January 15, 2018, 11:48:06 AM

Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2018, 11:13:55 AM
Crouch or Kelly is my new major decision.

Crouch averaged 125 after the byes last season and didn't go below 118 in the finals as well. He is a ball magnet and will be in side that will be getting a lot of the ball. Only thing that is putting me off him is that he shares the same bye as Danger, Dusty and Fyfe who are all locks in my side.

Kelly: has a favourable bye and has shown that he can go 110+ across a whole season. He will be in a stronger team this year and will have natural improvement as well.

What is everyone's thoughts on the two???

If they had the same bye who would you choose???

Kelly for mine though It's one of the toughest picks to stew over. Both similar, Recon Gibbs is going to effect Crows midfield in a good way which may take away a little from Crouch.. I'm sure you'll pick wisely MS. :)

Peter · January 15, 2018, 12:50:43 PM

Going tor Kelly - higher ceiling, favourable bye, more favourable stats ratios

DCAK · January 15, 2018, 12:53:45 PM

Quote from: Money Shot on January 15, 2018, 11:13:55 AM
Crouch or Kelly is my new major decision.

Crouch averaged 125 after the byes last season and didn't go below 118 in the finals as well. He is a ball magnet and will be in side that will be getting a lot of the ball. Only thing that is putting me off him is that he shares the same bye as Danger, Dusty and Fyfe who are all locks in my side.

Kelly: has a favourable bye and has shown that he can go 110+ across a whole season. He will be in a stronger team this year and will have natural improvement as well.

What is everyone's thoughts on the two???

If they had the same bye who would you choose???

I think that as neither of these guys are 'must have's' (like Danger, Titch, Fyfe, Dusty) perhaps you could let your decision be guided by bye structure, so Kelly for mine.

quinny88 · January 22, 2018, 05:21:20 PM

Ar you not concerned that Danger, Dusty, Crouch and Fyfe all have the same bye?
I don't mind the smith pick as there are no clear standouts in the ruck anyway. Nice balanced side

Money Shot · January 22, 2018, 05:51:23 PM

Quote from: quinny88 on January 22, 2018, 05:21:20 PM
Ar you not concerned that Danger, Dusty, Crouch and Fyfe all have the same bye?
I don't mind the smith pick as there are no clear standouts in the ruck anyway. Nice balanced side

It is a concern definitely but I picked Trealor over Martin last year and the main reason was the bye. Only reason I would pick Kelly over Crouch is the bye and although Kelly is very unlikely to stink it up as much as Trealor did I just wanna go with my gut.

On the other lines I only have Laird, Smith (who could easily turn to McEvoy/Jacobs) and then Billings and Heeney as my premiums so I am sure I can manage as long as I don't bring in any other mids with the round 14 bye.

Peter · January 23, 2018, 07:29:28 AM

Imo MS, the issue with V4 is two rookie MFâ€™s who wonâ€™t play R1 and you only have $900 left. Therefore one of the main players will need to go

Money Shot · January 23, 2018, 10:53:08 AM

def: Hurley, Laird, Hibberd, Brayshaw, Richards, Doedee (Cumming, Garner)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Crouch, Fyfe, Rayner, Barry, Fogarty (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Jacobs, Gawn (Olango)
fwd: Heeney, Greene, Billings, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Fritsch, Ryan)
cash: $4,500

Jacobs could easily become McEvoy or Smith

Have actually had a decent look at rookies through yesterday night and this morning and have got the guys I think could line up round 1.

Only concerns are having 4 of my midfield premiums out with the round 14 bye. In saying that I think Danger, Dusty and Fyfe are must haves and Crouch I see continuing a 115-120 average so he is a lock in my team. Will plan other lines to try and help cover.

Other concern as mentioned by Peter is that although I think all the rookie priced players are a good chance of playing alot of them are 117k and if they dont get up it could mean I need to downgrade a premium.

SilverLion · January 23, 2018, 10:58:17 AM

Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2018, 10:53:08 AM
def: Hurley, Yeo, Laird, Brayshaw, Richards, Doedee (Cumming, Miochek)
mid: Danger, Martin, Mitchell, Crouch, Fyfe, Rayner, Barry, Fogarty (Kelly, Walker, Worpel)
ruck: Jacobs, Gawn (Olango)
fwd: Heeney, Greene, Billings, Christensen, Higgins, Venables (Fritsch, Ryan)
cash: $4,500

Yeo could easily become Hibberd
Jacobs could easily become McEvoy or Smith

Have actually had a decent look at rookies through yesterday night and this morning and have got the guys I think could line up round 1.

Only concerns are having 4 of my midfield premiums out with the round 14 bye. In saying that I think Danger, Dusty and Fyfe are must haves and Crouch I see continuing a 115-120 average so he is a lock in my team. Will plan other lines to try and help cover.

Other concern as mentioned by Peter is that although I think all the rookie priced players are a good chance of playing alot of them are 117k and if they dont get up it could mean I need to downgrade a premium.

Nice side. What are your thoughts on brayshaw? Had him in one of my early sides, but took him out as I'm not confident he will become a keeper.

Money Shot · January 23, 2018, 11:11:04 AM

I usually stay away from breakout candidates but I just have a gut feeling about him.

He averaged 78.5 (excluding his injury game) from 4 games last year which means he can score well enough to at least make decent money. He was the number 3 draft pick from memory and drafted as an inside midfielder who generally score well in supercoach. He is coming into his prime so natural improvement should see him score 80-85 as a minimum in my opinion which is good enough for me at his price. He is in an up and coming side who will be wanting to win games and make finals and I think he could be a key part of it.

Clayton Oliver averaged 70 from 13 games before last year and Brayshaw averaged 72 from 5. I just see a lot of similarities between the two.

It is more of a gut feeling than anything but if he is fit and plays he will go up in price he is priced at a 57 and could score 77 easily so he will make money at worst and be a keeper at best.

Money Shot · January 23, 2018, 02:05:54 PM

I don't know how high Hibberd's player ownership percentage is but the fact that he isn't in the top 20 and Yeo is with 32% has made me want to go with Hibberd for now.

People seem to be scared by Lever coming in to Melbourne and affecting Hibberd and his scoring but Laird's scoring wasn't negatively affected by Lever so I don't see why Hibberd would be.

Yeo could be played anywhere and it is probably safer to wait and see with him and just take the extra 20k.

Another thing that puts me off Yeo is he scored 67 and 61 in the finals last year.

quinny88 · January 24, 2018, 12:13:04 AM

Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2018, 02:05:54 PM
I don't know how high Hibberd's player ownership percentage is but the fact that he isn't in the top 20 and Yeo is with 32% has made me want to go with Hibberd for now.

People seem to be scared by Lever coming in to Melbourne and affecting Hibberd and his scoring but Laird's scoring wasn't negatively affected by Lever so I don't see why Hibberd would be.

Yeo could be played anywhere and it is probably safer to wait and see with him and just take the extra 20k.

Another thing that puts me off Yeo is he scored 67 and 61 in the finals last year.

Yeah I had Yeo as my D1 for a lot of this off season but he's still not fully training and has said him self that he will play a variety of roles. Just rather wait and see on him

Peter · January 24, 2018, 07:35:22 AM

I have never had Yeo this pre-season and his rehab and unlnown role is why.

SilverLion · January 24, 2018, 11:35:22 AM

Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2018, 11:11:04 AM
I usually stay away from breakout candidates but I just have a gut feeling about him.

He averaged 78.5 (excluding his injury game) from 4 games last year which means he can score well enough to at least make decent money. He was the number 3 draft pick from memory and drafted as an inside midfielder who generally score well in supercoach. He is coming into his prime so natural improvement should see him score 80-85 as a minimum in my opinion which is good enough for me at his price. He is in an up and coming side who will be wanting to win games and make finals and I think he could be a key part of it.

Clayton Oliver averaged 70 from 13 games before last year and Brayshaw averaged 72 from 5. I just see a lot of similarities between the two.

It is more of a gut feeling than anything but if he is fit and plays he will go up in price he is priced at a 57 and could score 77 easily so he will make money at worst and be a keeper at best.

That sounds pretty reasonable actually, with Birchall not training yet I was taking another look at him, starting to agree that unless someone else in the 200-350k price bracket down back pops their head up, he could be a viable option.

Money Shot · January 25, 2018, 12:35:55 PM

This is my first team with the supercoach picker and probably my favourite. Want Sauce over Smith but would prefer to have some more expensive rookies so if I need too I can downgrade them and not a premium.

SilverLion · January 25, 2018, 03:34:36 PM

Quote from: Money Shot on January 25, 2018, 12:35:55 PM
This is my first team with the supercoach picker and probably my favourite. Want Sauce over Smith but would prefer to have some more expensive rookies so if I need too I can downgrade them and not a premium.

Side is very similarly structured to mine, think I've just got one extra prem mid, but you've opted for more expensive prems overall.

Nice team, don't mind Smith as a PoD ruckman. Hurley+Laird+Hibberd is a strong backline.