Money Shot 2018

[GoLions]

Spent the last hour playing around with my team and have come up with this.

Laird, Hibberd, Tuohy, Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Miochek, Mirra)
Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch, Ryan (Garlett, Langdon)

got no money left, Tuohy down too Sicily is something I would do if i need cash.

Coniglio I like more than Redden/Libba but that could change
O'meara i like more than Armitage/Griffin but that could change.

thoughts??? really starting to like the look of my side.

By my estimations you have 5 x Midpricers (Players $200k - $500k)
Tuohy ranked 12th total points / 16th for average points DEF in 2017
Ellis ranked 8th for total points / 12th for average points DEF in 2017
I don't think either of them will crack the top 6 DEF in 2018 so why pick them? You'll lose points to opponents with higher ranked defenders, unless you trade them out, in which case you are burning precious trades.
I cannot see Coniglio going top 8 MID so as above applies.
JOM is a massive trap.  I bet my ballsack he will be managed through the season.
Smith is tempting, I think he could go top 6 FWD so he's worth a punt I think.
Christenson is overhyped, he will not crack the top 6 FWD, won't even go close, so IMO not a keeper and as such will need to be traded out at some point.
I try to stick to some golden rules in SC, only pick rolled gold premiums, only pick 1 or max 2 mid pricers.

I don't even know where to start with this post.

[Bully]

Spent the last hour playing around with my team and have come up with this.

Laird, Hibberd, Tuohy, Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Miochek, Mirra)
Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch, Ryan (Garlett, Langdon)

got no money left, Tuohy down too Sicily is something I would do if i need cash.

Coniglio I like more than Redden/Libba but that could change
O'meara i like more than Armitage/Griffin but that could change.

thoughts??? really starting to like the look of my side.

By my estimations you have 5 x Midpricers (Players $200k - $500k)
Tuohy ranked 12th total points / 16th for average points DEF in 2017
Ellis ranked 8th for total points / 12th for average points DEF in 2017
I don't think either of them will crack the top 6 DEF in 2018 so why pick them? You'll lose points to opponents with higher ranked defenders, unless you trade them out, in which case you are burning precious trades.
I cannot see Coniglio going top 8 MID so as above applies.
JOM is a massive trap.  I bet my ballsack he will be managed through the season.
Smith is tempting, I think he could go top 6 FWD so he's worth a punt I think.
Christenson is overhyped, he will not crack the top 6 FWD, won't even go close, so IMO not a keeper and as such will need to be traded out at some point.
I try to stick to some golden rules in SC, only pick rolled gold premiums, only pick 1 or max 2 mid pricers.

I don't even know where to start with this post.

:-X

[DCAK]

Spent the last hour playing around with my team and have come up with this.

Laird, Hibberd, Tuohy, Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Miochek, Mirra)
Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch, Ryan (Garlett, Langdon)

got no money left, Tuohy down too Sicily is something I would do if i need cash.

Coniglio I like more than Redden/Libba but that could change
O'meara i like more than Armitage/Griffin but that could change.

thoughts??? really starting to like the look of my side.

By my estimations you have 5 x Midpricers (Players $200k - $500k)
Tuohy ranked 12th total points / 16th for average points DEF in 2017
Ellis ranked 8th for total points / 12th for average points DEF in 2017
I don't think either of them will crack the top 6 DEF in 2018 so why pick them? You'll lose points to opponents with higher ranked defenders, unless you trade them out, in which case you are burning precious trades.
I cannot see Coniglio going top 8 MID so as above applies.
JOM is a massive trap.  I bet my ballsack he will be managed through the season.
Smith is tempting, I think he could go top 6 FWD so he's worth a punt I think.
Christenson is overhyped, he will not crack the top 6 FWD, won't even go close, so IMO not a keeper and as such will need to be traded out at some point.
I try to stick to some golden rules in SC, only pick rolled gold premiums, only pick 1 or max 2 mid pricers.

I don't even know where to start with this post.

Speak your mind?

[ubeaut]

Spent the last hour playing around with my team and have come up with this.

Laird, Hibberd, Tuohy, Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Miochek, Mirra)
Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch, Ryan (Garlett, Langdon)

got no money left, Tuohy down too Sicily is something I would do if i need cash.

Coniglio I like more than Redden/Libba but that could change
O'meara i like more than Armitage/Griffin but that could change.

thoughts??? really starting to like the look of my side.

By my estimations you have 5 x Midpricers (Players $200k - $500k)
Tuohy ranked 12th total points / 16th for average points DEF in 2017
Ellis ranked 8th for total points / 12th for average points DEF in 2017
I don't think either of them will crack the top 6 DEF in 2018 so why pick them? You'll lose points to opponents with higher ranked defenders, unless you trade them out, in which case you are burning precious trades.
I cannot see Coniglio going top 8 MID so as above applies.
JOM is a massive trap.  I bet my ballsack he will be managed through the season.
Smith is tempting, I think he could go top 6 FWD so he's worth a punt I think.
Christenson is overhyped, he will not crack the top 6 FWD, won't even go close, so IMO not a keeper and as such will need to be traded out at some point.
I try to stick to some golden rules in SC, only pick rolled gold premiums, only pick 1 or max 2 mid pricers.

Mate I have to disagree. Sticking so strongly to "rules" limits outside the box moves that can really pay off massively. There's more than one way to play the game and past winners have broken some of these so-called rules to their advantage.
Sure, u try and have the best premiums and rookies, but top 10 players every year change,and rookies can get dropped or stagnate in price.
Coniglio doesn't have to be top 8 to be worth picking. At 450 k he is priced at 80. He can avg 100-105 easy which is only 5-10 less than alot of top premiums for 150 k less.
SC is a points and numbers game. Points per dollar is important especially in your starting side.The extra 150 k can be used to get maximum points elsewhere.
Bundy at 270 k Definitely doesn't have to be a top 6 fwd he's more an expensive rookie at only 70 k more. He's there to score more points than a rookie AND make money. Along with JOM and Coniglio he has JS that alot of rookies just don't have.
Yes u will use trades to upgrade them, BUT that's what trades are for and will have to be used on rookies,injuries and badly performing premiums anyway.
I agree with u that obviously trying to have the top 6/8/2/6 players is the way to go. But there is more than one way to get there.

[GoLions]

Spent the last hour playing around with my team and have come up with this.

Laird, Hibberd, Tuohy, Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Miochek, Mirra)
Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch, Ryan (Garlett, Langdon)

got no money left, Tuohy down too Sicily is something I would do if i need cash.

Coniglio I like more than Redden/Libba but that could change
O'meara i like more than Armitage/Griffin but that could change.

thoughts??? really starting to like the look of my side.

By my estimations you have 5 x Midpricers (Players $200k - $500k)
Tuohy ranked 12th total points / 16th for average points DEF in 2017
Ellis ranked 8th for total points / 12th for average points DEF in 2017
I don't think either of them will crack the top 6 DEF in 2018 so why pick them? You'll lose points to opponents with higher ranked defenders, unless you trade them out, in which case you are burning precious trades.
I cannot see Coniglio going top 8 MID so as above applies.
JOM is a massive trap.  I bet my ballsack he will be managed through the season.
Smith is tempting, I think he could go top 6 FWD so he's worth a punt I think.
Christenson is overhyped, he will not crack the top 6 FWD, won't even go close, so IMO not a keeper and as such will need to be traded out at some point.
I try to stick to some golden rules in SC, only pick rolled gold premiums, only pick 1 or max 2 mid pricers.

I don't even know where to start with this post.

Speak your mind?

Tuohy: You say he was 12th for total points. Well, Docherty and Williams are both gone for the year, so he is already top 10 by default. Was his first year at the Cats, I'd expect him to improve on that.

Ellis: Similar to Tuohy. 8th for total points, so now would be 6th. What's wrong with that?

Coniglio: He isn't being picked as a top 8 mid. He is being picked because he is a lot cheaper than he is capable of, and can make some cash and be a handy M8 for the end of the season. I'm not starting him myself (atm), but can see why a lot are locking him in.

JOM: Everyone knows he is a risk. Could pay off, could burn you. We have no idea how it will pan out. But if he stays on the park, he should go 90+ and make a lot of cash.

Christensen: Nobody is expecting him to be a top 6 fwd. He is 267k, and if he stays on the park, you'd expect him to average around 85 and make a heap of cash and be a great stepping stone to a premium.

Your rule of players needing to be top 6/8/2/6 doesn't apply to every single player, only the ones that are already priced like that. Otherwise, if we look at the rucks (Gawn, Goldy, Ryder, Kreuzer, Jacobs, Stef, Grundy...), only 2 of them are good picks according to you, and the rest are garbage and a waste to start with because 7 can't fit into 2. Look at the mids (Danger, Dusty, Tmitch, Fyfe, Sloane, MCrouch, Zorko, Beams, Cripps, Pendles, Zerrett, Neale, Jelwood, Ablett, Kelly, Oliver, JPK, Parker, Bont...), only 8 of them are good picks, and the rest are not. Because only 8 of them (or any other mids not mentioned) can be in the top 8 mids.

It's a stupid way of looking at things, and giving people crap advice because you can't understand that not everyone needs to be picked as an elite player, and that there is value to be made as well. This is your latest team update:

Have received my 2018 prospectus this week, has given me food for thought so have made a couple of amendments;



What do you think?

I could easily say stuff like:
- Cripps is unlikely to be a top 8 mid over Danger, Dusty, TMitch, MCrouch, Zorko, Fyfe, Neale, Zerrett, Bont, Kelly, etc.
- Jacobs won't score better than Kreuzer, Goldy, Ryder, Grundy, Stef
- Greene will get suspended at some point during the season and therefore not be a top 6 fwd because he will miss games
- Ah Chee will not be a top 6 fwd so is therefore a waste of a starting pick
- Rayner is too expensive and will play fwd and score crap and therefore a waste of a starting pick

But I'm not a giant douche, and realise that there is merit to each of these picks, as there is merit to each of MS's picks as well.

[ubeaut]

Also Tuohy and Ellis have just as much chance as others outside top 6-10 to make the jump.
Like I said the top players in each position change alot from one year to next.
Oh, and well said GL.:-)

[DCAK]

Spent the last hour playing around with my team and have come up with this.

Laird, Hibberd, Tuohy, Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Miochek, Mirra)
Danger, Mitchell, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch, Ryan (Garlett, Langdon)

got no money left, Tuohy down too Sicily is something I would do if i need cash.

Coniglio I like more than Redden/Libba but that could change
O'meara i like more than Armitage/Griffin but that could change.

thoughts??? really starting to like the look of my side.

By my estimations you have 5 x Midpricers (Players $200k - $500k)
Tuohy ranked 12th total points / 16th for average points DEF in 2017
Ellis ranked 8th for total points / 12th for average points DEF in 2017
I don't think either of them will crack the top 6 DEF in 2018 so why pick them? You'll lose points to opponents with higher ranked defenders, unless you trade them out, in which case you are burning precious trades.
I cannot see Coniglio going top 8 MID so as above applies.
JOM is a massive trap.  I bet my ballsack he will be managed through the season.
Smith is tempting, I think he could go top 6 FWD so he's worth a punt I think.
Christenson is overhyped, he will not crack the top 6 FWD, won't even go close, so IMO not a keeper and as such will need to be traded out at some point.
I try to stick to some golden rules in SC, only pick rolled gold premiums, only pick 1 or max 2 mid pricers.

I don't even know where to start with this post.

Speak your mind?

Tuohy: You say he was 12th for total points. Well, Docherty and Williams are both gone for the year, so he is already top 10 by default. Was his first year at the Cats, I'd expect him to improve on that.

Ellis: Similar to Tuohy. 8th for total points, so now would be 6th. What's wrong with that?

Coniglio: He isn't being picked as a top 8 mid. He is being picked because he is a lot cheaper than he is capable of, and can make some cash and be a handy M8 for the end of the season. I'm not starting him myself (atm), but can see why a lot are locking him in.

JOM: Everyone knows he is a risk. Could pay off, could burn you. We have no idea how it will pan out. But if he stays on the park, he should go 90+ and make a lot of cash.

Christensen: Nobody is expecting him to be a top 6 fwd. He is 267k, and if he stays on the park, you'd expect him to average around 85 and make a heap of cash and be a great stepping stone to a premium.

Your rule of players needing to be top 6/8/2/6 doesn't apply to every single player, only the ones that are already priced like that. Otherwise, if we look at the rucks (Gawn, Goldy, Ryder, Kreuzer, Jacobs, Stef, Grundy...), only 2 of them are good picks according to you, and the rest are garbage and a waste to start with because 7 can't fit into 2. Look at the mids (Danger, Dusty, Tmitch, Fyfe, Sloane, MCrouch, Zorko, Beams, Cripps, Pendles, Zerrett, Neale, Jelwood, Ablett, Kelly, Oliver, JPK, Parker, Bont...), only 8 of them are good picks, and the rest are not. Because only 8 of them (or any other mids not mentioned) can be in the top 8 mids.

It's a stupid way of looking at things, and giving people crap advice because you can't understand that not everyone needs to be picked as an elite player, and that there is value to be made as well. This is your latest team update:

Have received my 2018 prospectus this week, has given me food for thought so have made a couple of amendments;



What do you think?

I could easily say stuff like:
- Cripps is unlikely to be a top 8 mid over Danger, Dusty, TMitch, MCrouch, Zorko, Fyfe, Neale, Zerrett, Bont, Kelly, etc.
- Jacobs won't score better than Kreuzer, Goldy, Ryder, Grundy, Stef
- Greene will get suspended at some point during the season and therefore not be a top 6 fwd because he will miss games
- Ah Chee will not be a top 6 fwd so is therefore a waste of a starting pick
- Rayner is too expensive and will play fwd and score crap and therefore a waste of a starting pick

But I'm not a giant douche, and realise that there is merit to each of these picks, as there is merit to each of MS's picks as well.

Go ahead, pick a team full of mid pricers then.

[Gavdroid]

Ellis is probably C Ellis anyway, not B. Just sayin :)

FWIW I like the team, just so much hinging on those fwd rookies, same for everyone. So tough to get scorers there by the looks.

[Gandalf123]

This was fantastic, thank you

[LF]

Please keep the personal attacks out of Money Shots team thread.
I do not want to have to lock it temporarily as it's not fair on him,he is wanting feedback on his team not coaches attacking each other
Thank you

[Money Shot]

Ellis is probably C Ellis anyway, not B. Just sayin :)

FWIW I like the team, just so much hinging on those fwd rookies, same for everyone. So tough to get scorers there by the looks.

correct ;)

[Money Shot]

Please keep the personal attacks out of Money Shots team thread.
I do not want to have to lock it temporarily as it's not fair on him,he is wanting feedback on his team not coaches attacking each other
Thank you

haha, I think it is funny too be honest.

[Money Shot]

Laird, Hibberd, Simpson, C. Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Keefe, Goddard)
Danger, Martin, Titch, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Smith, Petracca, Sicily, Bundy, Venables, Fritsch (Garlett, Ryan)
100k cash left

round 12: Simpson, Titch, Cripps, O'meara
round 13: Hibberd, Coniglio, Goldy, Gawn, Smith, Petracca, Bundy
round 14: Laird, Danger, Martin, Fyfe

Simpson could become Yeo/Hurley
not set on F1-F3 but see plenty of upside in all 3 picks with not much downside.

[rodneycc]

My turn to return the favor MS :-)

I actually like your 2-march team with Sicily for Tuohy the best. And if you can then do maybe Cripps to Kelly (the GWS variety). That would be about the best Mid line I've seen, maybe lite on in Def but still Ok in Fwd.

I wouldn't be too worried about the byes. Bundy for instance I think you might get rid of him by R13.

Anyway Good luck with it. I'm sure there will be a couple more versions after JLT2  :)

[ubeaut]

Laird, Hibberd, Simpson, C. Ellis, Doedee, Finlayson (Keefe, Goddard)
Danger, Martin, Titch, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, O'meara, Barry (Kelly, Worpel, Holman)
Goldy, Gawn (Olango)
Smith, Petracca, Sicily, Bundy, Venables, Fritsch (Garlett, Ryan)
100k cash left

round 12: Simpson, Titch, Cripps, O'meara
round 13: Hibberd, Coniglio, Goldy, Gawn, Smith, Petracca, Bundy
round 14: Laird, Danger, Martin, Fyfe

Simpson could become Yeo/Hurley
not set on F1-F3 but see plenty of upside in all 3 picks with not much downside.

Solid everywhere except maybe fwds.
That midfield is awesome.
Is that 100k u have left or 1k? If 100k I would upgrade Petracca to Billings/Heeney. Just think u need a more solid top 6 fwd chance as Smith,Sicily and Petracca all together too risky and taking 3 spots. Would balance bye players too.