Injured Players Thread 2018 Year

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Bully

Quote from: Jukes on February 16, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 16, 2018, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 05:56:36 PM
Nic Nat may well be back in the frame, should feature in the JLT.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast/nic-naitanui-is-set-for-return-to-football-in-the-jlt-series-before-a-round-1-clash-against-sydney/news-story/8d8599527bc463195b0b551fb240ac24

Nooooo, another 5 Pages and hundred posts

Surely nobody could seriously start him at this stage...

37% ownership, I'm tempted at his price, only needs to average 85 to break even. The big risk will be restings but I'm eying off a Ryder trade in round 11. The problem this year is no-one has a clue about the rucks, 9/10 people will get it wrong.

shaker

Quote from: Jukes on February 16, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 16, 2018, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 05:56:36 PM
Nic Nat may well be back in the frame, should feature in the JLT.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast/nic-naitanui-is-set-for-return-to-football-in-the-jlt-series-before-a-round-1-clash-against-sydney/news-story/8d8599527bc463195b0b551fb240ac24

Nooooo, another 5 Pages and hundred posts

Surely nobody could seriously start him at this stage...
You would not think to many will pick him as far as I can see they have not really tested his knee with fair dinkum ruck work or full on contested stuff , you would think they would have to give him a block of that type of training before JLT 

LordSneeze

A lot will pick him off name, but for him to be worth it he needs to average 100 (Less and he doesn't make enough cash to make it worth it) and be durable until round 11 (Any resting and you lose points on everyone or have to trade early)

Ive said all along there is no way I am starting him and that has not changed at all.

quinny88

Hasn't left my side once and won't unless he doesn't play round 1. Not really sure what people are expecting to hear, of course they were going to have him in cotton wool before the season starts. Every bit of footage I've seen of him, he's moving g beautifully and doesn't even have strapping on his knee

Jukes

Quote from: shaker on February 16, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Jukes on February 16, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 16, 2018, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 15, 2018, 05:56:36 PM
Nic Nat may well be back in the frame, should feature in the JLT.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast/nic-naitanui-is-set-for-return-to-football-in-the-jlt-series-before-a-round-1-clash-against-sydney/news-story/8d8599527bc463195b0b551fb240ac24

Nooooo, another 5 Pages and hundred posts

Surely nobody could seriously start him at this stage...
You would not think to many will pick him as far as I can see they have not really tested his knee with fair dinkum ruck work or full on contested stuff , you would think they would have to give him a block of that type of training before JLT

It's a bit of a catch-22 for west coast - either rush him into getting ready (will have to rush him since he's doing very little running or jumping atm) which would either flare up his knee, maybe give him a different injury, or make him very fatigued come round one; or let him slowly get along until he's ready to lift and lift his preparation until he's match ready, which could mean he's either underdone for round one or misses the early part of the season. Long-term it would probably be best for Nic to do the second option and not play for the start of the 2018 season and get back into things slowly and, for his sake, back to his best, but footy clubs are impatient so in all likelihood he'll be rushed back and hurt himself again. I don't like the odds of him both coming back round one and playing good footy (85+ SC) at all so it's a big no from me unless he really shows his stuff in the last JLT and show he's recovered very well. Might even be a guy you wait until he's on the price bubble before bringing him in if he's been scoring well.

Quote from: quinny88 on February 16, 2018, 11:52:57 PM
Hasn't left my side once and won't unless he doesn't play round 1. Not really sure what people are expecting to hear, of course they were going to have him in cotton wool before the season starts. Every bit of footage I've seen of him, he's moving g beautifully and doesn't even have strapping on his knee

Most training sessions he's been doing no running or jumping. Has had an extremely limited preseason in all aspects and heading into mid-Feb that's a very bad sign. At his price you'd be wanting at least a 90 average and I highly doubt that'll happen. As LS said, a lot will pick him off name - you see a guy like him who has averaged great SC in the past at the heavily discounted price and he looks a bargain but he's just nowhere near what he used to be at this stage.

quinny88

If he plays he will average more than 90. His hitouts alone net him a heap of points and he will still dominate in that area even if he's only playing at 80%
If he's not right they won't play him so it's an easy decision for me to make

Jukes

Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:48 AM
If he plays he will average more than 90. His hitouts alone net him a heap of points and he will still dominate in that area even if he's only playing at 80%
If he's not right they won't play him so it's an easy decision for me to make

He'll be splitting time with Vardy and/or Lycett, maybe even giving up the majority of the ruckwork early in the season. I reckon they would play him if he's not right and ready as the eagles probably still think they're in competition for finals (and maybe more) and they want their marquee player out there (helps PR purposes too)

quinny88

Quote from: Jukes on February 17, 2018, 03:30:42 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:48 AM
If he plays he will average more than 90. His hitouts alone net him a heap of points and he will still dominate in that area even if he's only playing at 80%
If he's not right they won't play him so it's an easy decision for me to make

He'll be splitting time with Vardy and/or Lycett, maybe even giving up the majority of the ruckwork early in the season. I reckon they would play him if he's not right and ready as the eagles probably still think they're in competition for finals (and maybe more) and they want their marquee player out there (helps PR purposes too)

He's always split the ruck duties his whole career so nothing changes there. Unlikely that he will be his normal self but still think even underdone he averages 90+
The concern for me isn't them playing him if he's not right because I don't think they would do that but of course there's the risk of him being rested at times which is my main concern

shaker

Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 06:21:41 AM
Quote from: Jukes on February 17, 2018, 03:30:42 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:48 AM
If he plays he will average more than 90. His hitouts alone net him a heap of points and he will still dominate in that area even if he's only playing at 80%
If he's not right they won't play him so it's an easy decision for me to make

He'll be splitting time with Vardy and/or Lycett, maybe even giving up the majority of the ruckwork early in the season. I reckon they would play him if he's not right and ready as the eagles probably still think they're in competition for finals (and maybe more) and they want their marquee player out there (helps PR purposes too)

He's always split the ruck duties his whole career so nothing changes there. Unlikely that he will be his normal self but still think even underdone he averages 90+
The concern for me isn't them playing him if he's not right because I don't think they would do that but of course there's the risk of him being rested at times which is my main concern

Unless they step up his training he is a big risk of throwing some sub par scores and on top of that the Eagles midfield is not there strongest point plus a big chance of his knee to play up early or be rested so it would mean using a trade so not many positives in starting him would rather start Ryder who should be one of the best rucks and you know unless he is injured early you have him till R10 at least.

Ricochet

Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 06:21:41 AM
Quote from: Jukes on February 17, 2018, 03:30:42 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:48 AM
If he plays he will average more than 90. His hitouts alone net him a heap of points and he will still dominate in that area even if he's only playing at 80%
If he's not right they won't play him so it's an easy decision for me to make

He'll be splitting time with Vardy and/or Lycett, maybe even giving up the majority of the ruckwork early in the season. I reckon they would play him if he's not right and ready as the eagles probably still think they're in competition for finals (and maybe more) and they want their marquee player out there (helps PR purposes too)

He's always split the ruck duties his whole career so nothing changes there. Unlikely that he will be his normal self but still think even underdone he averages 90+
The concern for me isn't them playing him if he's not right because I don't think they would do that but of course there's the risk of him being rested at times which is my main concern
Yeh i'd be wary of restings and also limited minutes Quinn. He's still way behind where he needs to be to play at AFL level so unless he drastically ramps it up soon, i'd stay away

shaker

Not an injury but De Goey has been caught drink driving nearly twice the limit maybe all the talk of an attitude problem are more serious than I thought , currently have him at F3 , could be another club suspension for him

sidvicious

Quote from: shaker on February 18, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Not an injury but De Goey has been caught drink driving nearly twice the limit maybe all the talk of an attitude problem are more serious than I thought , currently have him at F3 , could be another club suspension for him
Pies need to sack this clown and give a young bloke who actually wants to play at the elite level a go

shaker

Quote from: sidvicious on February 18, 2018, 01:56:46 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 18, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Not an injury but De Goey has been caught drink driving nearly twice the limit maybe all the talk of an attitude problem are more serious than I thought , currently have him at F3 , could be another club suspension for him
Pies need to sack this clown and give a young bloke who actually wants to play at the elite level a go
You would have to be furious with him as a Pies supporter the last thing they needed