WXV Trade Confabulation 2018

[meow meow]

Legitimate question here folks.

Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.

What's the difference?

Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.

You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?

[Holz]

Legitimate question here folks.

Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.

What's the difference?

Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.

You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?

can you give some examples of 2nd best KPFs on bad teams that have done well?

[RaisyDaisy]

Legitimate question here folks.

Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.

What's the difference?

Sinclair is a 90+ R1
Polec is a 90+ Mid
Higgins is a 100+ Mid
McKay is, well not much at the moment

[meow meow]

Legitimate question here folks.

Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.

What's the difference?

Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.

You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?

can you give some examples of 2nd best KPFs on bad teams that have done well?

Ben Brown

[Holz]

Legitimate question here folks.

Sinclair is able to be traded for pick 6. Polec able to be traded for pick 6. Higgins isn't able to be traded for McKay because he's unproven.

What's the difference?

Mckay is the 2nd best KPF i dont think unproven is the correct word. Likely limited upside is a better reason.

You say limited potential, I say good potential. Isn't that what this comp is about?

can you give some examples of 2nd best KPFs on bad teams that have done well?

Ben Brown

Id say most would call Brown better then Waite plus was on a North team that almost made finals. Even then he put up a fairly average 82.

so best case he can be Ben Brown and average 77-82?

[Nige]

Can the latest trade to be posted be rejected before it even goes to vote on account of one party not informing a third party that the player involved in the trade is on the move?

[Torpedo10]

Can the latest trade to be posted be rejected before it even goes to vote on account of one party not informing a third party that the player involved in the trade is on the move?

[Purple 77]

Can the latest trade to be posted be rejected before it even goes to vote on account of one party not informing a third party that the player involved in the trade is on the move?

If you expressed interest in that player, then yes, it will be auto-rejected until all parties are satisfied.

[Purple 77]

WXV Draft Order & Player Lists and spreadsheet have been updated with the confirmed trades

[Purple 77]

Coaches still to vote:
- Cape Town
- Cairo

[Jroo]

Looking for Mids, fwds, picks and players to help with cap

Just on my players here is who's available

Going to delist/free
Jarryd Blair, Jacob Townsend, Daniel Robinson, Callum Moore, Kayle Kirby, Ryan Schoenmakers, Sam McLarty, Tyson Goldsack, Patrick Ambrose

Could potentially move (First lot more movable)
Jarryn Geary, Sam Wright, Matthew Broadbent, Lewis Melican,  Jordan Murdoch, Tim O'Brien, Ivan Soldo, Darcy MacPherson, Jack Silvagni

Darcy Byrne-Jones, James Harmes, Luke Dunstan, Anthony Miles, Mason Wood, Mitch Hannan, Adam Kennedy, Jordan Cunico, George Horlin-Smith

Don't bother
James Sicily, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Hunter, Tom Hickey, Billy Longer, Lewis Pierce, Christian Petracca, Zac Langdon, Nic Newman, Jack Graham, Aaron Naughton, James Worpel, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Charlie Constable

[PowerBug]

There's been interest in Aaron Hall and I think there has been a few of you that I haven't replied to, so I'll just do so here:

With him looking like being traded, I value him a lot higher now and I think he can bounce back to those low 90s numbers that he used to hit, and no offer I received is good enough for me to consider trading. Plus, I'd like to keep him I think as he does now start for me with Brayshaw traded :)

[iZander]

If anyone likes these players for depth, cap or whatever happy to trade any of the following for picks or players

Chris Mayne
Cale Hooker
Chris Masten
David Armitage - 95 average second half of the season after moving back in the mid
Mark Lecras

Already had a few offers for a few

[Purple 77]

All votes are in!

Trade 19
Dublin trade: Nick Holman, Brandon Zerk-Thatcher + Pick 12
Tokyo trade: Patrick Kerr + Pick 9
Votes: 0
Coaches Comments: None.
Admin comments: Fills a hole, man,
Verdict: PASS

Trade 20
New Delhi trade: Jack Ziebell, Daniel Rich, Hamish Hartlett, Pick 15 + Pick 34
Rio de Janeiro trade: Angus Brayshaw + Pick 25
Votes: 3
Coaches Comments: 2 coaches felt this was an overpay by New Delhi, by way of trading 3 starters for 1. The other felt HH and DR did not have the value they once did, are are not worthy parts of the trade.
Admin comments: Is Gus is Good. Fills a need for both teams, autopassed.
Verdict: PASS

Trade 21
Dublin trade: Braydon Preuss, Pick 18, Pick 55 + PSD Pick 18
Christchurch trade: Toby Greene, Aaron Sandilands + Pick 85
Votes: 14
Coaches Comments: Felt value has been preemptively been placed on Preuss, and cannot be compared to Greene, whom is a premium forward in his own right when fit.
Admin comments: Nothing more to add to this one.
Verdict: REJECTED

Trade 22
PNL trade: Pick 4, Pick 30 + Pick 49
Christchurch trade: Gary Ablett Jnr, Bryce Gibbs + Heath Shaw
Votes: 5
Coaches Comments: Feel Gibbs alone is worth 4, and the additions of the picks do not adequately justify the worth of GAJ + Shaw.
Admin comments: Right. So, with 5 votes, this trade has passed, with me having the power to overturn it if I disagree with the outcome enough. I think historically, Pick 4 has attracted players of all different shapes and sizes in a trade. Whether that is Fiorini, Parish, Ebert, Cotchin, part-way to Parker... I think Gibbs fits within this category. I feel comfortable valuing Gibbs at Pick 4 for the purposes of this trade. In terms of Gary Ablett's value, well, he played 18 games this year at 106. Last year, we saw Goddard go for Pick 16, Kade Simpson for 24 & Hrovat, Deledio for18... older high end premos around the late-teens mark. Sure GAJ is on limited time, but so were all those players, and GAJ is well... GAJ, even an old one. Heath Shaw averaged 90 this year in defence, and based on say, Simpson last year, should at least be worth a pick in the 20s. Sorry guys, I'm overturning this one.
Verdict: REJECTED
Advice: What I feel this trade lacks is a tangible player from PNL to demonstrate the 'downgrade' of Gibbs, GAJ & Shaw to a long term replacement. Picks beyond 20 are hard to measure, whereas you know what you'd be getting with say, a Jack Lonie. That's not to say Jack Lonie would fix this trade, but Christchurch just need to be better compensated with the loss of firepower, with just any firepower in return... a clear trajectory from a player established in the AFL to measure against. I feel a player replacing Pick 49 would help this trade pass, or perhaps the removal of Heath Shaw or GAJ.

Trade 23
Christchurch trade: Pick 13
Buenos Aires trade: Shane Edwards
Votes: 1
Coaches Comments: *redacted for anonymity*
Admin comments: Feelin titchy.
Verdict: PASS

[Holz]

Is 14 a new record?