NBA Season 2017/18

jvalles69 · June 01, 2018, 02:31:25 PM

Holy flower, JR literally destroys all Lebrons effort.

TomK · June 01, 2018, 02:34:35 PM

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Jay · June 01, 2018, 07:21:26 PM

Times like this where I wish LeBron at least had some half decent teammates. What more does he have to do to make these finals interesting?

Jay · June 01, 2018, 10:28:29 PM

You put up 51-8-8 in a finals game and some moron forgets the score and costs you a win. LeBron has got to leave this shower show.

jvalles69 · June 02, 2018, 01:20:23 PM

Quote from: Jay on June 01, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
You put up 51-8-8 in a finals game and some moron forgets the score and costs you a win. LeBron has got to leave this shower show.

I agree, but to be fair he put this shower show together. He could very easily have brought in anyone, but he brought in his "boys".

R.Griffen · June 03, 2018, 01:34:49 AM

Quote from: jvalles69 on June 02, 2018, 01:20:23 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 01, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
You put up 51-8-8 in a finals game and some moron forgets the score and costs you a win. LeBron has got to leave this shower show.

I agree, but to be fair he put this shower show together. He could very easily have brought in anyone, but he brought in his "boys".

Holz · June 03, 2018, 06:39:44 PM

Quote from: jvalles69 on June 02, 2018, 01:20:23 PM
Quote from: Jay on June 01, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
You put up 51-8-8 in a finals game and some moron forgets the score and costs you a win. LeBron has got to leave this shower show.

I agree, but to be fair he put this shower show together. He could very easily have brought in anyone, but he brought in his "boys".

I hate when people say this. He didnt just overpay his boys.

keeping a team in the finals every year is tough and the cavs have done it with very little assets.

hill nance hood jr clarkson are pretty much rejects from their teams that they wanted to offload.

irving basically walked for nothing as the cavs ownership is incompetent.

Love keeps getting injured and is a shell of himself.

Green signed for the vets minimum.

Trisitan Thompson is the only guy you can fault but he was a lottery pick who was big time in 2016.

How could lebron have managed it better?

what assets could they have traded to get someone better.

then you look at the opposition they signed guys to long contracts that they picked up in the draft and then a top 3 player was able to join the team due to their great cap position.

remove JR TT from the cavs and what could they add

nothing and thats why they are there .

its alot more complicated then lebron over paying his boys, thats why they have GMs, issue is Gilbert didnt re hire the one doing the good job. David Griffin is more a Lebron "Boys" then JR. JR is just the card he was delt.

Jay · June 03, 2018, 10:56:05 PM

Agreed, Holz. TT and JR are just money out of Dan Gilbert's pocket, there's not much opportunity cost.

The one thing I'll disagree with you on, is that Irving didn't leave because of incompetent ownership - he wanted out because of LeBron and they took the best deal they could get.

Holz · June 04, 2018, 08:58:01 AM

Quote from: Jay on June 03, 2018, 10:56:05 PM
Agreed, Holz. TT and JR are just money out of Dan Gilbert's pocket, there's not much opportunity cost.

The one thing I'll disagree with you on, is that Irving didn't leave because of incompetent ownership - he wanted out because of LeBron and they took the best deal they could get.

Aldridge wanted out of san antonio he is still there.

Plus the deal for irving was horrible a injured player and a pick that would do nothing to help them win this year.

Irving was contracted for 2 years.

I also think he wanted out as they tried to trade him after 2016

RaisyDaisy · June 04, 2018, 01:35:32 PM

Well that was uneventful

Lebron is trying to assist too much - I know he is trying to bring his players into the game but they cannot win with him scoring 30 points - he needs 40+ games for them to be a chance so I hope he just says flower it and takes more shots moving forward because his support cast just isn't up to it vs GSW

I always get a laugh when the game is over with a few minutes left and all the absolute nobody's come on for a rare run - something about it feels degrading too, travelling all year round just sitting on the bench and then only getting a run in a blow outs either way

Holz · June 04, 2018, 03:43:36 PM

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 04, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
Well that was uneventful

Lebron is trying to assist too much - I know he is trying to bring his players into the game but they cannot win with him scoring 30 points - he needs 40+ games for them to be a chance so I hope he just says flower it and takes more shots moving forward because his support cast just isn't up to it vs GSW

I always get a laugh when the game is over with a few minutes left and all the absolute nobody's come on for a rare run - something about it feels degrading too, travelling all year round just sitting on the bench and then only getting a run in a blow outs either way

he dropped 50 on 90 50 40 shooting

he dropped 30 with 13 assists.

They cannot win period.

Holz · June 04, 2018, 03:52:44 PM

on your last point RD.

id have absolutely no issue with getting paid a few million dollars to fly around and get front row seats to NBA games.

RaisyDaisy · June 04, 2018, 05:13:01 PM

Quote from: Holz on June 04, 2018, 03:52:44 PM
on your last point RD.

id have absolutely no issue with getting paid a few million dollars to fly around and get front row seats to NBA games.

Yeah that's the response I expected, and I can't argue against it - but there would be a part of those players who would feel somewhat flat about their lives - basically grown men who cheer squad the guys who can actually play at the level so there's an element of degrading there I think, especially when you take out the money side of things

Quote from: Holz on June 04, 2018, 03:43:36 PM
They cannot win period.

Yep

Times like this you wish it wasn't East vs West and we could see two teams from the same conference play out for a title

R.Griffen · June 04, 2018, 11:51:28 PM

Has anyone seen the uncut footage of what happens after what JR did in game 1?

Goes for around 2 minutes and one of the most embarrassing things Iâ€™ve ever seen. Iâ€™d be ashamed if I was LeBron especially and some of the other team members. Just ridiculous that happen considering the game was continuing and at that stage still a decent chance to win

jvalles69 · June 05, 2018, 10:37:48 AM

Quote from: R.Griffen on June 04, 2018, 11:51:28 PM
Has anyone seen the uncut footage of what happens after what JR did in game 1?

Goes for around 2 minutes and one of the most embarrassing things Iâ€™ve ever seen. Iâ€™d be ashamed if I was LeBron especially and some of the other team members. Just ridiculous that happen considering the game was continuing and at that stage still a decent chance to win

Yeah watched it last night, LeBron looked like he could've cried, reckon he is just playing now to keep his stats up and has checked out on the rest of the team. Deservedly so in my opinion.