WXVs Trade Confabulation 2017

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RaisyDaisy

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Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\

iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Might have to dish out a top 5 picks for a young gun like Dan houston or something

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\

its really a players cap space above 100k that matters though.

If he trades 5 100k players for a 250k player then thats 4 list spots free and a extra 150k cap. Those list spaces can be used to say pick up 150k spuds and then bang 350k cap increase.




Its a good system its far better for a struggling team to have these 60 average players who will retire in a few years to help the rebuild far more then wasting list spots on spuds from the PSD, rookie or late in the nat like

Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti, Tom Papley, Declan Mountfordd, Jack Silvagni , Oscar McDonald, Kane Lambert, Aaron Vandenberg, Hugh Greenwood,  Braydon Preuss

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Might have to dish out a top 5 picks for a young gun like Dan houston or something

I was being serious and asking in general because it looks like it will be hard to do what you need to do

I wasn't being a smart a$$, like your response was

Obviously the Danger comment was a joke hence the :P

iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
Finished exams now so pretty keen to get some deals done, dillos far from done

Looking to package up some of the following for a single player ideally, as list size is up and cap is down. However can look at any offer unless it involves my cap reducing drastically

M Adams, S Atley, S Wellingham, J Wagner, J Joyce, J Leslie, M Hartley, S Skinner, T Mohr, M Spencer, E Curnow, K Stevens, C Hanley, J Long, C Polson, C Hooker, S Edwards, O Florent, H McKay, N6, N9, N13, N23, N31, N35, PSD1 (maybe)

I'm scratching my head thinking, how the hell are you going to be able to package these guys (reduce list) but increase cap at the same time?

Near impossible, unless JB will take 5 100k players for Danger :P

The only way I see, is to give up the picks you have listed for players with higher caps, and then delist the spuds  :-\
Might have to dish out a top 5 picks for a young gun like Dan houston or something

I was being serious and asking in general because it looks like it will be hard to do what you need to do

I wasn't being a smart a$$, like your response was

Obviously the Danger comment was a joke hence the :P
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

RaisyDaisy

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Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good

Holz

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good

are you really saying that you wouldn't take pick 4 for Houston?

1. Houston is 2 years older.
2. They are highly rated youngsters as opposed to a guy who didn't even get drafted.

dont get me wrong i rate Houston but if its Cerra/Dow/Brayshaw/Stephenson v Houston its not even close.

he is a good kick, but winning lose ball on a HBF isnt super impressive. He isnt even lock 22.




iZander

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good
yeah good point, could probably get McGrath from Nige for him..

Nige

Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 03, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Then how come you didnt put a :P when you said houston was worth a top 5 pick? or were you serious?

Personally, I think Houston is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, and I've had a few other coaches tell me the same

It was his first year, and averaged more than McGrath and all of the other top draft picks. Off the top of my head only WitherGUN averaged more, so yes as a 20 year old rebounding defender I think he is worth a pick of that value

We always have a little bias for our own players, but I did my research on Houston and he backed it up on field so I don't think 4-8 is out of the question at all

FWIW I wouldn't trade him for a pick in that range anyway - no real point on taking a shot on a kid who will only be 12 months younger when Houston has already shown he could be very good
yeah good point, could probably get McGrath from Nige for him..
Post it up.  ;D

Ricochet

Somone come at me with a top 5 pick for Harry Morrison

GoLions

Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
Somone come at me with a top 5 pick for Harry Morrison
Best i can do is N7 + Duncan

Ricochet

Quote from: GoLions on November 03, 2017, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 03, 2017, 05:31:23 PM
Somone come at me with a top 5 pick for Harry Morrison
Best i can do is N7 + Duncan
Standard GL. King of the lowball

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on November 03, 2017, 05:15:38 PM
are you really saying that you wouldn't take pick 4 for Houston?

1. Houston is 2 years older.
2. They are highly rated youngsters as opposed to a guy who didn't even get drafted.

dont get me wrong i rate Houston but if its Cerra/Dow/Brayshaw/Stephenson v Houston its not even close.

he is a good kick, but winning lose ball on a HBF isnt super impressive. He isnt even lock 22.

1. 20 or 18, same shower in the scheme of things, even more so for a comp like WXV
2. There have been plenty of players who didn't get drafted that turned out very good

I don't care how he wins the ball, it's purely based on his SC output, which is good. He'll be best 22, if he already isn't

There's a lot less youngsters in def who score well vs mids, so as a def he his worth is justified to me

Quote from: iZander on November 03, 2017, 05:17:32 PM
yeah good point, could probably get McGrath from Nige for him..

When did I say he was better than McGrath? I said he averaged more, and is worth a pick in the 4-8 range, not 1 like McGrath

RaisyDaisy

Not much longer to go, so if any of this interests you, hit me up

Def: S Hurn (WC), R Tarrant (NM), L Henderson (Geel), B Reid (Coll), R Conca (Rich), S Gilbert (StK), L Keeffe (GWS), H Marsh (Syd)

Mid: J Selwood (Geel), S Higgins (NM), J Lewis (Melb), A Sexton (GC) K Langford (Ess) H Balic (Melb)

Ruck: K Tippett (Syd), E Ratugolea (Geel)

Fwd: JJ Kennedy (WC), E Betts (Adel), R Douglas (Adel), S Reid (Syd), D Johnstone (Melb), D Keilty (Melb)

Draft Picks: 45, 47, 49, 50, 69, 81, 84, 87

Ricochet

N26 + one or a combo of the following for a better pick

Adam Oxley - will be rookied by Coll
Nick Robbo - well known fact he'll be the new Rocky at Brissie
Brady Grey - should be fwd/mid
N42 - gun