EXV: 2017 / 2018 Trade Discussion thread

Started by nas, August 06, 2017, 09:09:46 AM

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Holz

Quote from: LaHug on September 06, 2017, 07:33:13 PM
Thanks for explaining it all rationally, guys. I guess it's not too bad after all. You know it's an alright trade when some people think one team wins and others think another does.

Good to see some discussion back in Euro too.

Thanks lh.

Picks for players are always tough as peoples value differs greatly.

I tried to make thr offer balanced. Enough that people who dont like picks where happy and not that much that peopke who rate high draft picks werent unhappy.

What i an happy about is the activity in the euro.


LF

MacMillan and Wallis can be packaged together for a decent mid if anyone is interested
I'll be around most of today for talks as have a day off

Holz

Quote from: LF on September 07, 2017, 10:49:16 AM
MacMillan and Wallis can be packaged together for a decent mid if anyone is interested
I'll be around most of today for talks as have a day off

geez thats an enticing offer. Issue for my squad is i dont know how DPP will hit my team i have alot of guys who will be F/m or M.

making it very tough to do deals.


Ziplock

Quote from: LF on September 07, 2017, 10:49:16 AM
MacMillan and Wallis can be packaged together for a decent mid if anyone is interested
I'll be around most of today for talks as have a day off

how decent is decent :P

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Atto

Sorry to post this but I think it requires discussion. I made a trade with Spink and it was rejected and needed further tinkering.

Unbeknown to me, the tinkering of the trade was done without my knowledge or approval/confirmation. I have since changed my mind in regards to trading the player involved but have been told bad luck. From my point of view if a trade is sent to be renegotiated, then I should be involved in it, not someone else without my permission doing things without my approval. I am very annoyed that this has occurred. I would think that even though I am receiving more that I should still get a say in what the new picks/players are as well as having final say whether a trade that involves my team should proceed or not. Everyone should have a right to change their minds at any point of renegotiation.

Nige

Quote from: Atto on September 07, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
Sorry to post this but I think it requires discussion. I made a trade with Spink and it was rejected and needed further tinkering.

Unbeknown to me, the tinkering of the trade was done without my knowledge or approval/confirmation. I have since changed my mind in regards to trading the player involved but have been told bad luck. From my point of view if a trade is sent to be renegotiated, then I should be involved in it, not someone else without my permission doing things without my approval. I am very annoyed that this has occurred. I would think that even though I am receiving more that I should still get a say in what the new picks/players are as well as having final say whether a trade that involves my team should proceed or not. Everyone should have a right to change their minds at any point of renegotiation.
I'm sorry to hear this happened, this is terrible.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Nige on September 07, 2017, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: Atto on September 07, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
Sorry to post this but I think it requires discussion. I made a trade with Spink and it was rejected and needed further tinkering.

Unbeknown to me, the tinkering of the trade was done without my knowledge or approval/confirmation. I have since changed my mind in regards to trading the player involved but have been told bad luck. From my point of view if a trade is sent to be renegotiated, then I should be involved in it, not someone else without my permission doing things without my approval. I am very annoyed that this has occurred. I would think that even though I am receiving more that I should still get a say in what the new picks/players are as well as having final say whether a trade that involves my team should proceed or not. Everyone should have a right to change their minds at any point of renegotiation.
I'm sorry to hear this happened, this is terrible.

And Hilarious at the same time  ;D

Rids

Quote from: Atto on September 07, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
Sorry to post this but I think it requires discussion. I made a trade with Spink and it was rejected and needed further tinkering.

Unbeknown to me, the tinkering of the trade was done without my knowledge or approval/confirmation. I have since changed my mind in regards to trading the player involved but have been told bad luck. From my point of view if a trade is sent to be renegotiated, then I should be involved in it, not someone else without my permission doing things without my approval. I am very annoyed that this has occurred. I would think that even though I am receiving more that I should still get a say in what the new picks/players are as well as having final say whether a trade that involves my team should proceed or not. Everyone should have a right to change their minds at any point of renegotiation.



If one of my trades needed to be reviewed with things added or removed, then I would want to be a part of it.

I can't remember any time either myself or Nostra not being involved to be honest with the renegotiations. Nostra and I have also left the trade and not worried if we disagreed with the ruling as well (for both scenarios).

Rids

I might be missing something here, but shouldn't the trade be renegotiated between the 2 coaches involved and if not enough then rejected again? And if that hasn't happened then why not just revoke the trade now and let the 2 coaches see if they can work out another deal both are happy with?

Spinking

Wow.

The story from my end is that Atto and I negotiated and agreed on a straight swap of players. Holz messaged saying I needed to add picks or it would be rejected. I added picks, informed Atto and assumed it was a done deal.

Have spoken to Atto about other deals and he hasn't mentioned any concerns with the trade or suggested something different.

Understand the sentiment about being involved in any renegotiations, but I assumed it was fine considering he received exactly what we'd agreed on plus Additional picks.

:(

elephants

A bit to play out here it seems.



Hope all can be resolved!

Atto

Quote from: Spinking on September 07, 2017, 06:39:16 PM
Wow.

The story from my end is that Atto and I negotiated and agreed on a straight swap of players. Holz messaged saying I needed to add picks or it would be rejected. I added picks, informed Atto and assumed it was a done deal.

Have spoken to Atto about other deals and he hasn't mentioned any concerns with the trade or suggested something different.

Understand the sentiment about being involved in any renegotiations, but I assumed it was fine considering he received exactly what we'd agreed on plus Additional picks.

:(
This is also a reply to your message Spink.

I never said anything along the lines of "Yes, let's do it" with the renegotiated trades. First trade, yeah. Otherwise, no. Check our messages. Basically Holz and yourself renegotiated the trade without my say (didn't even see it by the time it was approved) and that is what the main problem is.

Ziplock

He said, she  said, who knows at this point.

As an independent and objective observer who had not been involved in any trading up to this point, Im willing to take the now tainted players and picks in dispute into the Valkyries free of charge.

#topbloke

Holz

Ok i will be talking to both atto and spinking via pm to talk this one out.

In positive news the discussion is in the right thread.