WXV Rules Discussion 2017

Started by Purple 77, August 01, 2017, 12:13:11 PM

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Purple 77

24ish hours left of Rule Discussion! I'll be sending out the last vote about this time tomorrow.

Trade period review aside, this will be your LAST opportunity to modify a rule of the game for another year. I'm very stubborn about this.

I might tomorrow morning post a correctly discounted old players list tomorrow, that takes into account of those players that are 30 and above, not just above 30.

That's right, I don't want it, but I'll still do it for you lot :P

If you have any requests for me to draw up anything, now is the time.

GoLions

New idea for the 'price' of each player in the cap:

Whatever their average is, double it.

Take that new value, and multiply it by 5.

Now, divide that by their original average.

Finally, subtract 10 from this new value.

That is the new price of the player in question. Use this for all players, and then work out the new average, min, and max caps.

Ez.

Ricochet

Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution

GoLions

Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Could actually help London stay above the min cap while trading.

Ricochet

Quote from: GoLions on August 21, 2017, 04:40:06 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Could actually help London stay above the min cap while trading.
See, it's perfect

Purple 77

Ok, so I've done a discount on ALL players born 30 years before the current year.

So if you were born in 1987, you get a 3% discount.

If born in 1986, you get 6%, 1985, 9% etc.

If we do this, the 'base year' will increase by 1 every year, so next year it'll be 1988

Below, are all the effected players

PlayerYear bornOld Price           Discounted Price
M Priddis1985$669,000$609,000
H Shaw1985$593,000$540,000
S Mitchell1982$588,000$482,000
D Mundy1985$576,000$524,000
G Ablett1984$565,000$497,000
B Goddard1985$555,000$505,000
S Martin1986$531,000$499,000
L Montagna1983$550,000$468,000
S Mumford1986$549,000$516,000
K Simpson1984$549,000$483,000
J Lewis1986$544,000$511,000
M Murphy1987$518,000$502,000
L Franklin1987$488,000$473,000
JJ Kennedy1987$486,000$471,000
M Boyd1982$481,000$394,000
N Riewoldt1982$476,000$390,000
B Deledio1987$446,000$433,000
S Burgoyne1982$476,000$390,000
A Sandilands1982$469,000$385,000
K Jack1987$457,000$443,000
J Westhoff1986$431,000$405,000
B Vince1985$460,000$419,000
M Barlow1987$434,000$421,000
L Hodge1984$452,000$398,000
L Picken1986$431,000$405,000
J McVeigh1985$438,000$399,000
A Swallow1987$403,000$391,000
S Thompson1983$410,000$349,000
E Betts1986$388,000$365,000
R Griffen1986$385,000$362,000
J Gibson1984$382,000$336,000
J Waite1983$380,000$323,000
S Hurn1987$383,000$372,000
B Stanton1986$377,000$354,000
R Douglas1987$369,000$358,000
M Rischitelli1986$366,000$344,000
K Tippett1987$363,000$352,000
Ja Roughead1987$361,000$350,000
S Johnson1983$358,000$304,000
D Wells1985$351,000$319,000
H Taylor1986$362,000$340,000
M LeCras1986$333,000$313,000
R Murphy1982$360,000$295,000
H Grundy1986$349,000$328,000
D Petrie1982$344,000$282,000
J Watson1985$321,000$292,000
I Maric1986$329,000$309,000
Dany Pearce1986$321,000$302,000
A Mackie1984$328,000$289,000
L Spurr1987$308,000$299,000
P Puopolo1987$298,000$289,000
M Johnson1984$300,000$264,000
SD Thompson1986$292,000$274,000
M Baguley1987$289,000$280,000
M Rosa1986$267,000$251,000
S Gilbert1986$254,000$239,000
S Dempster1984$264,000$232,000
C Pedersen1987$280,000$272,000
T Dickson1987$245,000$238,000
L Dunn1987$255,000$247,000
T Lonergan1984$241,000$212,000
T Cloke1987$239,000$232,000
D Thomas1987$230,000$223,000
T Goldsack1987$222,000$215,000
S Butler1986$217,000$204,000
D Morris1982$209,000$171,000
S Rowe1987$201,000$195,000
Ja Kelly1983$204,000$173,000
A Monfries1987$185,000$179,000
D Armfield1986$182,000$171,000
H Ballantyne1987$185,000$179,000
J Griffin1986$185,000$174,000
H Lumumba1986$167,000$157,000
Ma White1987$166,000$161,000
J Patfull1984$161,000$142,000
A Silvagni1987$142,000$138,000
T Mzungu1986$141,000$133,000
Z Dawson1986$124,000$117,000
H Hocking1987$105,000$102,000




TeamCurrentAge Discounted
Beijing Thunder$11,125,000 11,093,000
Berlin Brewers$11,238,000 10,959,000
Buenos Aires Armadillos$9,444,000 9,420,000
Cairo Sands$9,856,000 9,773,000
Cape Town Cobras$10,082,000 10,037,000
Christchurch Saints$11,208,000 10,614,000
Dublin Destroyers$11,248,000 11,222,000
London Royals$10,225,000 10,204,000
Mexico City Suns$10,918,000 10,595,000
Moscow Spetsnaz$10,548,000 10,524,000
New Delhi Tigers$11,368,000 11,313,000
New York Revolution$11,147,000 10,936,000
Pacific Islanders$11,928,000 11,872,000
PNL Reindeers$9,951,000 9,837,000
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars$11,512,000 11,199,000
Seoul Magpies$10,802,000 10,777,000
Tokyo Samurai$9,938,000 9,931,000
Toronto Wolves$10,574,000 10,522,000
AVERAGE$10,728,444$10,601,556
AVERAGE + 5%$11,264,867$11,131,633
AVERAGE - 15%$9,119,178$9,011,322

GoLions

Quote from: GoLions on August 21, 2017, 12:46:19 AM
New idea for the 'price' of each player in the cap:

Whatever their average is, double it.

Take that new value, and multiply it by 5.

Now, divide that by their original average.

Finally, subtract 10 from this new value.

That is the new price of the player in question. Use this for all players, and then work out the new average, min, and max caps.

Ez.
You left this out of your vote Purps, so i can't respond properly yet until you send another vote out.

GoLions

Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Also this one. It's like you don't even want the comp to be even smh.

Ricochet

Quote from: GoLions on August 22, 2017, 01:26:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Also this one. It's like you don't even want the comp to be even smh.
Our voices always fall on deaf ears

Holz

So on reflection I have looked at modifying the 18+ game on some of the comments about Kelly Oliver etc...

18+ games: 100% of the current season is their average
11-17 games: 50% of the current average 30% of last years and 20% of the year before
6-10 games: 35% of the current average 40% of last years and 25% of the year before
5 or under: 20% of the current average 50% of last years and 30% of the year before.
0 games: 60% of last year and 40% of the year before.


I think the 18+ games: should be 90% of current season and 5% of the previous seasons.

SO just doing the top NDT players.

Marc Murphy: Ossie 101, Holz original 109, Holz New 107
Sidey: O: 102, H1 97 H2 98
Stef Martin: 100 under all 3
Gray: O:104, H1 93 H2 95
Howe O:87 H1:96 H2:95
Llyod O:81 H1:88 H2:87
M.Crouch: O:92 H1:110 H2:107

The Holz 2.0 puts bolters a little down and sliders a little up.

The biggest difference can be seen in Robbie Gray v Matt Crouch. Now Gray has slipped down to a 93 average but under the current system is priced at a 104, where as my new system has him at 95. Matt Crouch has been improving each year 68 92 now 100, the current system has him at a low 92 a massive 18 points under his current average, i have him at 107.

Not sure about you but

110 average Mid should cost more then a 93 mid in my books. i have Matt Crouch 12 points more then Gray and in real life he averaged 17 points more. Under the current system Gray costs 12 points more despite averaging 17 points less.


Purple 77

Quote from: GoLions on August 22, 2017, 01:26:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Also this one. It's like you don't even want the comp to be even smh.

GL kinda just goes out the other ear, with all of his #scrapthecap garbage  :P

It's the price to pay I guess for having that agenda  :-X

GoLions

Quote from: Purple 77 on August 22, 2017, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 22, 2017, 01:26:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Also this one. It's like you don't even want the comp to be even smh.

GL kinda just goes out the other ear, with all of his #scrapthecap garbage  :P

It's the price to pay I guess for having that agenda  :-X
I made a genuine cap suggestion tyvm. Give me a spreadsheet with all players and I'll do the new cap for every single one.

Purple 77

Quote from: GoLions on August 22, 2017, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 22, 2017, 11:06:59 AM
Quote from: GoLions on August 22, 2017, 01:26:57 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2017, 02:24:01 AM
Nah even better idea

We use whateva the media speculates the player is getting paid in real life

Unfortunate for whoever has Chris Mayne but seems the most logical solution
Also this one. It's like you don't even want the comp to be even smh.

GL kinda just goes out the other ear, with all of his #scrapthecap garbage  :P

It's the price to pay I guess for having that agenda  :-X
I made a genuine cap suggestion tyvm. Give me a spreadsheet with all players and I'll do the new cap for every single one.

Game on

https://jumpshare.com/v/54PSfRc7GOwbG3FJ3iHT

GoLions

Quote from: GoLions on August 21, 2017, 12:46:19 AM
New idea for the 'price' of each player in the cap:

Whatever their average is, double it.

Take that new value, and multiply it by 5.

Now, divide that by their original average.

Finally, subtract 10 from this new value.

That is the new price of the player in question. Use this for all players, and then work out the new average, min, and max caps.

Ez.
Had to make a slight adjustment in case they don't play a game and thus avg is 0