WXV Round 12: The Frantic Fight for Finals

[GoLions]

Isn't the rule something like "if you do not submit a team..." etc etc

And not "if you forget to name a player"

Because Holz submitted a team

This opens up the ability for everyone else to "forget" to name someone in an attempt to loophole them, does it not?

So we can just completely void our own team submissions?

[Torpedo10]

Isn't the rule something like "if you do not submit a team..." etc etc

And not "if you forget to name a player"

Because Holz submitted a team

This opens up the ability for everyone else to "forget" to name someone in an attempt to loophole them, does it not?

So we can just completely void our own team submissions?

Only in a round with partial lockout, which Purple made clear.

This is the last one if I'm not mistaken, as there's no more Thursday night games?

[iZander]

You can name a team until late the game starts friday night, which means teams are not not named until then and hence you are unable to change the team after. Which would be a stupid move since Greenwood tore it up!

[GoLions]

Isn't the rule something like "if you do not submit a team..." etc etc

And not "if you forget to name a player"

Because Holz submitted a team

This opens up the ability for everyone else to "forget" to name someone in an attempt to loophole them, does it not?

So we can just completely void our own team submissions?

Only in a round with partial lockout, which Purple made clear.

This is the last one if I'm not mistaken, as there's no more Thursday night games?

Why does it need to be partial?

E.g. I name my team next week the exact same, but without Pittard, and play Logue instead. Logue scores 30 and Pittard 90. I void my submission and take this week's team with no consequence (providing it doesn't happen again) and gain 60 points. All because i forgot to name Pittard.

Obviously this isn't what Holz meant to do when he didn't name Crouch (presumably anyway), but this is what is effectively being allowed, and could be the difference in a win or loss at some stage.

[Purple 77]

Alrighty guys, lay off Holz and settle the flower down. I'm actually quite disappointed at things said.

I told him he could do it, if anything I should be the one being questioned as to whether I implemented this correctly.

We've done it before, albeit in those instances the team forgot to name a team by Thursday night. If I'm honest, I forgot that this was a factor. My sparing availability of late didn't allow me to think it through, and yes, you guys are right, it shouldn't have been allowed to happen, and I'm taking it back. The team Holz named Friday morning will have to stand.

My sincere apologies to Holz for flip flopping, and telling him he could do something that he wasn't able to do.

I also wanna make something abundantly clear. Attacking someone for playing to the rules is UNACCEPTABLE. These concerns should be directed at me, and not the coach that used them. Jesus, attacking someone full stop is unacceptable.

This is my bad, and I'll wear it. My apologies once again, particularly to Holz.

[Purple 77]

Moscow

D:
M:
R:
F: Burton (VC)
I:
E: Talia (D), Milera (F)

Moscow

D: Docherty (C), May, Barrass, Rotham
M: Heppell, Menegola, Bugg, Crisp
R: Bellchambers
F: Burton (VC), Daniher, Graham, Taranto
I: Dunn, Sinclair
E: Talia (D), Moore (F), Milera (F)

Milera was E2 before, so can't move him to E3

   Pacific Islanders

D: Rory Laird
M: Tom Mitchell (VC)
R:
F:
Int:

E:  Andy Otten

    Pacific Islanders

D: Rory Laird, Michael Hurley, Matt Suckling, Lee Spurr
M: Tom Mitchell (VC), Marcus Bontempelli (C), Andrew Gaff, Jarryd Lyons
R: Jarrod Witts
F: Steven Motlop, Rhys Stanley, Matt de Boer, Callum Ah Chee
Int: Andrew Swallow, Sam Gibson

E: Cameron Guthrie, Alex Fasolo, Andy Otten

Murdoch Out    Fasolo comes into E2

Similarly, the first post implies Otten was named E1, so you can't name him E3.



@PNL, you can't name Deluca as he is on your rookie list, and you have others that can play instead.

Moving your E1-E3 up a spot, and on preferences, naming Sheridan at E3

[Torpedo10]

Apologies Purps, so Moore is just our E3 instead? I didn't think it really mattered but will remember to specify next time.

[Holz]

All good purp i play by the rules and if the rules say i go by my original squad then im fine with that.

Agree though the response from coaches not involved is disapointing.

Jay has no major issue with it and he is the person actually effected.

Its a fantasy comp that is supposed to be abit of fun. Taking it to personal insults is too far.

[Nige]

Beams done, Cairo done.

[Purple 77]

After Adel/Haw/Syd/Ess/Coll/Port:

Score Summary
Beijing Thunder (355) from 4 vs Buenos Aires Armadillos (356) from 6
Cape Town Cobras (616) from 6# vs New York Revolution (256) from 3
Christchurch Saints (91) from 1 vs Cairo Sands (236) from 3
London Royals (738) from 8# vs Berlin Brewers (225) from 3
Mexico City Suns (448) from 6 vs PNL Reindeers (668) from 6#
Pacific Islanders (285) from 3 vs Dublin Destroyers (280) from 4
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars (381) from 5# vs Tokyo Samurai (604) from 8
Seoul Magpies (70) from 1 vs Moscow Spetsnaz (464) from 6
Toronto Wolves (361) from 3# vs New Delhi Tigers (700) from 5#

# = Captain Played
* = one Co-Captain Played
** = two Co-Captain's Played

	Beijing Thunder					Buenos Aires Armadillos
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Jayden Hunt	0		0	D1	Shane Biggs	0		0
D2	Sam Mayes	0		0	D2	Zach Tuohy	0		0
D3	Harry Taylor	0		0	D3	Jarrod Berry	0		0
D4	Tom Jonas	82		82	D4	Shaun Atley	0		0
M1	Lachie Neale	0		0	M1	Travis Boak	73		73
M2	Dayne Zorko	0		0	M2	Ed Curnow	0		0
M3	Ollie Wines	96		96	M3	Trent Dumont	0		0
M4	Callan Ward	0		0	M4	Isaac Smith	69		69
R1	Brodie Grundy	93		93	R1	Michael Hartley	44	0.5	22
F1	Josh Jenkins	84		84	F1	Taylor Walker	73		73
F2	Christian Petracca	0		0	F2	Shane Edwards	0		0
F3	Josh Caddy	0		0	F3	Oliver Florent	63		63
F4	Bradley Hill	0		0	F4	Josh Green	56		56
U1 (MID )	Brandon Ellis	0		0	U1 (DEF )	Jack Leslie	0		0
U2 (FWD )	Kane Lambert	0		0	U2 (DEF )	Easton Wood	0		0
E1 (MID )	James Aish	36	0	0	E1 (MID )	Rohan Bewick	0	0	0
E2 (DEF MID)	Daniel Howe	56	0	0	E2 (DEF )	Jesse Joyce	0	0	0
E3 (FWD )	Ben Lennon	0	0	0	E3 (FWD )	Jake Neade	41	0	0
CC	Lachie Neale	0		0	C	Ed Curnow	0		0
CC	Dayne Zorko	0		0	VC	Taylor Walker	73		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	355	4			Total:	356	6

	Cape Town Cobras					New York Revolution
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Jasper Pittard	76		76	D1	Shannon Hurn	0		0
D2	Luke McDonald	0		0	D2	Robbie Tarrant	0		0
D3	Callum Mills	104		104	D3	Sam Gilbert	0		0
D4	Sam Collins	0		0	D4	Ben Reid	88		88
M1	Josh P Kennedy	127		127	M1	Joel Selwood	0		0
M2	Dion Prestia	0		0	M2	David Mundy	0		0
M3	Lachie Hunter	0		0	M3	Jordan Lewis	0		0
M4	Mark Blicavs	0		0	M4	Tom Scully	0		0
R1	Toby Nankervis	0		0	R1	Alex Sexton	0	0.5	0
F1	Blake Acres	0		0	F1	Isaac Heeney	104		104
F2	Tom Papley	73		73	F2	Mitch Wallis	0		0
F3	Tim Broomhead	51		51	F3	Jake Stringer	0		0
F4	Ben Ainsworth	0		0	F4	Sam B Reid	64		64
U1 (MID )	Kieren Jack	58		58	U1 (MID )	Dom Tyson	0		0
U2 (MID FWD)	Touk Miller	0		0	U2 (DEF )	James Harmes	0		0
E1 (FWD )	Peter Wright	0	0	0	E1 (MID FWD)	Richard Douglas	63	0	0
E2 (DEF FWD)	Jake Carlisle	0	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Jarryd Roughead	57	0	0
E3 (RUC )	Ivan Maric	0	0	0	E3 (FWD )	Jade Gresham	0	0	0
C	Josh P Kennedy	127		127	C	Joel Selwood	0		0
VC	Toby Nankervis	0		0	VC	Isaac Heeney	104		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	616	6			Total:	256	3

	Christchurch Saints					Cairo Sands
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Robert Murphy	0		0	D1	Taylor Adams	99		99
D2	Harris Andrews	0		0	D2	Dylan Roberton	0		0
D3	Nathan Wilson	0		0	D3	Jeremy McGovern	0		0
D4	Leigh Montagna	0		0	D4	Tom Stewart	0		0
M1	Bryce Gibbs	0		0	M1	Dayne Beams	0		0
M2	Connor Blakely	0		0	M2	Jack Newnes	0		0
M3	Sam Mitchell	0		0	M3	Rhys Mathieson	0		0
M4	Brayden Fiorini	0		0	M4	Dom Sheed	0		0
R1	Sean Darcy	0		0	R1	Shane Mumford	0		0
F1	Shaun Higgins	0		0	F1	Koby Stevens	0		0
F2	Jarrad Waite	0		0	F2	Jeff Garlett	0		0
F3	Will Hoskin-Elliott	91		91	F3	Ben Brown	0		0
F4	Ryan Lester	0		0	F4	Travis Colyer	92		92
U1 (RUC )	Nathan Vardy	0		0	U1 (DEF MID)	Andrew McGrath	45		45
U2 (RUC )	Jordan Roughead	0		0	U2 (FWD )	Jack Lonie	0		0
E1 (MID )	Sam Petrevski-Seton	0	0	0	E1 (MID FWD)	Hugh McCluggage	0	0	0
E2 (MID FWD)	Alex Neal-Bullen	0	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Paul Puopolo	67	0	0
E3 (DEF )	Jake Lever	71	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Eric MacKenzie	0	0	0
C	Bryce Gibbs	0		0	C	Dayne Beams	0		0
VC	Connor Blakely	0		0	VC	Taylor Adams	99		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	91	1			Total:	236	3

	London Royals					Berlin Brewers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Heath Grundy	117		117	D1	Michael Hibberd	0		0
D2	Dane Rampe	57		57	D2	Andrew Mackie	0		0
D3	Adam Saad	0		0	D3	Michael Johnson	0		0
D4	Neville Jetta	0		0	D4	Jamie MacMillan	0		0
M1	Dan Hannebery	97		97	M1	Nat Fyfe	0		0
M2	Sam Gray	70		70	M2	Jack Viney	0		0
M3	Luke Shuey	0		0	M3	Jobe Watson	65		65
M4	Matt Shaw	0		0	M4	Jack Steven	0		0
R1	Callum Sinclair	70		70	R1	Max Gawn	0		0
F1	Maverick Weller	0		0	F1	Charlie Dixon	77		77
F2	Tom T Lynch	77		77	F2	Lance Franklin	83		83
F3	Darcy MacPherson	0		0	F3	Michael Walters	0		0
F4	Orazio Fantasia	68		68	F4	Daniel Menzel	0		0
U1 (MID )	Will Langford	85		85	U1 (MID )	Tom Liberatore	0		0
U2 (MID )	Jesse Lonergan	0		0	U2 (MID )	Luke Dunstan	0		0
E1 (MID )	Billy Hartung	67	0	0	E1 (DEF )	Shaun Burgoyne	123	0	0
E2 (DEF )	Brad Sheppard	0	0	0	E2 (MID )	Ryan Bastinac	0	0	0
E3 (FWD )	Josh Bruce	0	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Sam Frost	0	0	0
C	Dan Hannebery	97		97	C	Max Gawn	0		0
VC	Luke Shuey	0		0	VC	Jack Viney	0		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	738	8			Total:	225	3

[Purple 77]

	Mexico City Suns					PNL Reindeers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Heath Shaw	0		0	D1	Luke Hodge	62		62
D2	Kade Simpson	0		0	D2	Ricky Henderson	113		113
D3	Nic Newman	90		90	D3	Jarrod Harbrow	0		0
D4	Jarryn Geary	0		0	D4	Marley Williams	0		0
M1	Tom Rockliff	0		0	M1	Zach Merrett	141		141
M2	Trent Cotchin	0		0	M2	Dylan Shiel	0		0
M3	Brendon Goddard	73		73	M3	Jack Billings	0		0
M4	Ben Cunnington	0		0	M4	Matt Priddis	0		0
R1	Billy Longer	0		0	R1	Sam Naismith	61		61
F1	Nick Riewoldt	0		0	F1	Patrick Ryder	86		86
F2	Eddie Betts	63		63	F2	Chad Wingard	64		64
F3	Luke Breust	24		24	F3	Matthew Kennedy	0		0
F4	James Sicily	93		93	F4	Jonathon Patton	0		0
U1 (MID )	David Zaharakis	105		105	U1 (DEF )	Luke Ryan	0		0
U2 (MID )	George Horlin-Smith	0		0	U2 (DEF )	Hayden Crozier	0		0
E1 (DEF )	Mark Baguley	53	0	0	E1 (FWD )	Levi Casboult	0	0	0
E2 (DEF )	Lewis Melican	60	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Ben Keays	0	0	0
E3 (MID FWD)	Josh Williams	0	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Tommy Sheridan	0	0	0
C	Tom Rockliff	0		0	C	Zach Merrett	141		141
VC	Trent Cotchin	0		0	VC	Jack Billings	0		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	448	6			Total:	668	6

	Pacific Islanders					Dublin Destroyers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Rory Laird	72		72	D1	Alex Rance	0		0
D2	Michael Hurley	112		112	D2	Tom McDonald	0		0
D3	Matthew Suckling	0		0	D3	Oscar McDonald	0		0
D4	Lee Spurr	0		0	D4	Paddy Brophy	0		0
M1	Tom Mitchell	101		101	M1	Rory Sloane	80		80
M2	Marcus Bontempelli	0		0	M2	Dustin Martin	0		0
M3	Andrew Gaff	0		0	M3	Adam Treloar	91		91
M4	Jarryd Lyons	0		0	M4	Stephen Hill	0		0
R1	Jarrod Witts	0		0	R1	Todd Goldstein	0		0
F1	Steven Motlop	0		0	F1	Justin Westhoff	49		49
F2	Rhys Stanley	0		0	F2	Jack Riewoldt	0		0
F3	Matt de Boer	0		0	F3	Tom Hawkins	0		0
F4	Callum Ah Chee	0		0	F4	Todd Marshall	0	DNP	0
U1 (MID )	Andrew Swallow	0		0	U1 (MID )	Nathan Jones	0		0
U2 (MID )	Sam Gibson	0		0	U2 (DEF )	Jacob Weitering	0		0
E1 (DEF )	Andy Otten	47	0	0	E1 (FWD )	Jack Gunston	60		60
E2 (MID )	Cameron Guthrie	0	0	0	E2 (MID FWD)	Hugh Greenwood	127	0	0
E3 (FWD )	Alex Fasolo	75	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Grant Birchall	102	0	0
C	Marcus Bontempelli	0		0	C	Dustin Martin	0		0
VC	Tom Mitchell	101		0	VC	Rory Sloane	80		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	285	3			Total:	280	4

	Rio de Janeiro Jaguars					Tokyo Samurai
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Tom Cutler	0		0	D1	Zac Williams	0		0
D2	Bernie Vince	0		0	D2	Jason Johannisen	0		0
D3	James Kelly	63		63	D3	Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti	65		65
D4	Brayden Maynard	63		63	D4	Martin Gleeson	78		78
M1	Shaun Grigg	0		0	M1	Rory Atkins	75		75
M2	Brad Ebert	58		58	M2	Luke Parker	104		104
M3	Patrick Cripps	0		0	M3	Billy Stretch	0		0
M4	Lewis Jetta	0		0	M4	Sam Powell-Pepper	82		82
R1	Sam Jacobs	90		90	R1	Zac Smith	0		0
F1	Shaun McKernan	49		49	F1	Charlie Cameron	70		70
F2	Bailey Dale	0		0	F2	Luke Dahlhaus	0		0
F3	Zaine Cordy	0		0	F3	Aaron Young	46		46
F4	Jack Redpath	0		0	F4	Jamie Cripps	0		0
U1 (MID FWD)	Elliot Yeo	0		0	U1 (MID FWD)	Tom Phillips	84		84
U2 (FWD )	Matthew Wright	0		0	U2 (MID )	Dale Thomas	0		0
E1 (DEF )	Sean Lemmens	0	0	0	E1 (FWD )	Sam Lloyd	0	0	0
E2 (FWD )	Daniel Rioli	0	0	0	E2 (MID )	Connor Menadue	0	0	0
E3 (FWD )	Gary Rohan	80	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Aidan Corr	0	0	0
C	Brad Ebert	58		58	C	Luke Dahlhaus	0		0
VC	Patrick Cripps	0		0	VC	Luke Parker	104		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR	Mason Wood	0
		Total:	381	5			Total:	604	8

	Seoul Magpies					Moscow Spetsnaz
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Nick Haynes	0		0	D1	Sam Docherty	0		0
D2	Kamdyn McIntosh	0		0	D2	Steven May	0		0
D3	Christian Salem	0		0	D3	Thomas Barrass	0		0
D4	Patrick McKenna	0		0	D4	Josh Rotham	0		0
M1	Patrick Dangerfield	0		0	M1	Dyson Heppell	54		54
M2	Josh Kelly	0		0	M2	Sam Menegola	0		0
M3	Clayton Oliver	0		0	M3	Tomas Bugg	0		0
M4	Lachie Whitfield	0		0	M4	Jack Crisp	90		90
R1	Ben McEvoy	70		70	R1	Tom Bellchambers	103		103
F1	Tom J Lynch	0		0	F1	Ryan Burton	91		91
F2	Toby Greene	0		0	F2	Joe Daniher	77		77
F3	Caleb Daniel	0		0	F3	Nick Graham	0		0
F4	Charlie Curnow	0		0	F4	Tim Taranto	0		0
U1 (MID )	David Swallow	0		0	U1 (DEF )	Lynden Dunn	49		49
U2 (FWD )	Lachie Weller	0		0	U2 (FWD )	Jack Sinclair	0		0
E1 (MID )	Liam Shiels	109	0	0	E1 (DEF )	Daniel Talia	101	0	0
E2 (FWD )	Cam McCarthy	0	0	0	E2 (FWD )	Wayne Milera	39	0	0
E3 (DEF )	Taylor Duryea	80	0	0	E3 (FWD )	Darcy Moore	56	0	0
C	Patrick Dangerfield	0		0	C	Sam Docherty	0		0
VC	Ben McEvoy	70		0	VC	Ryan Burton	91		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR	Tom Langdon	100
		Total:	70	1			Total:	464	6

	Toronto Wolves					New Delhi Tigers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Jimmy Webster	0		0	D1	Bachar Houli	0		0
D2	Joel Hamling	0		0	D2	Jeremy Howe	125		125
D3	Tyson Goldsack	68		68	D3	Jake Lloyd	99		99
D4	Jayden Short	0		0	D4	Hamish Hartlett	80		80
M1	Scott Pendlebury	109		109	M1	Steele Sidebottom	125		125
M2	Mitch Duncan	0		0	M2	Marc Murphy	0		0
M3	Pearce Hanley	0		0	M3	Robbie Gray	146		146
M4	Scott Selwood	0		0	M4	Brady Grey	0		0
R1	Matthew Kreuzer	0		0	R1	Stefan Martin	0		0
F1	Jack Macrae	0		0	F1	Jeremy Cameron	0		0
F2	Cameron Pedersen	0		0	F2	Jack Darling	0		0
F3	Jordan De Goey	75		75	F3	Jack Martin	0		0
F4	Lewis Taylor	0		0	F4	Daniel Rich	0	0.5	0
U1 (MID )	Liam Picken	0		0	U1 (MID )	Sebastian Ross	0		0
U2 (MID FWD)	Nathan Hrovat	0		0	U2 (MID )	Jack Ziebell	0		0
E1 (DEF )	Brodie Smith	60	0	0	E1 (MID )	Matt Crouch	131	0	0
E2 (DEF )	Jake Kelly	69	0	0	E2 (DEF )	Aaron Mullett	0	0	0
E3 (MID )	Jake Melksham	0	0	0	E3 (RUC )	Archie Smith	0	0	0
C	Scott Pendlebury	109		109	C	Steele Sidebottom	125		125
VC	Jack Macrae	0		0	VC	Marc Murphy	0		0
HA		0		0	RP		0		0
RP		0		0	NR
NR
		Total:	361	3			Total:	700	5

[Purple 77]

Apologies Purps, so Moore is just our E3 instead? I didn't think it really mattered but will remember to specify next time.

Yep all good, Moore is E3

[RaisyDaisy]

Sam Reid got royally screwed because it was so close last night and he didn't impact the last few mins

64 is bs. He was on more than that during the 3rd :(

[Adamant]

flower me that's a handy start to NDT.

Stef and Jezza following suit too. :(

[DazBurg]

@PNL, you can't name Deluca as he is on your rookie list, and you have others that can play instead.

Moving your E1-E3 up a spot, and on preferences, naming Sheridan at E3

haha forgot about that one little tiny important fact....no worries crozier don't let us down
(inb4 we would of been better off leaving casboult...lol)

Also big Patton and shiel go BANG!!