Bye Buster Candidates

Started by Bully, May 22, 2017, 02:11:38 PM

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Holz

Quote from: tor01doc on May 22, 2017, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 22, 2017, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on May 22, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
Why has this thread drifted to players who still have a bye to 'play'?

Seems the only teams with genuine ridgy didge fair dinkum 100% full on 'bye busters' are Gold Coast and Port.

because making it through the byes doesnt mean you need to load up on GC and Port players and besides lynch my point is that you shouldnt be trading in any GC Port players as guys with byes to play are much better.

So rather then Bye Busters lets just call GC Port players what they are

Season Busters.

Haha.

Fair call .... maybe

Ryder not bad.

do think tom lynch (Crows) at 410k is much much better.


Bully

Quote from: Holz on May 22, 2017, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on May 22, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
Why has this thread drifted to players who still have a bye to 'play'?

Seems the only teams with genuine ridgy didge fair dinkum 100% full on 'bye busters' are Gold Coast and Port.

because making it through the byes doesnt mean you need to load up on GC and Port players and besides lynch my point is that you shouldnt be trading in any GC Port players as guys with byes to play are much better.

So rather then Bye Busters lets just call GC Port players what they are

Season Busters.

Both Wines & Gray will make money and will gather points in the short term. Hardly season busters. The Barrett upgrade means that the lowest scoring rookie is eliminated in round 11. That score could be 30 for all we know. If you grab a round 13 bye player it's the same scenario. It makes perfect sense to me.   

PICCOLLO

Lynch, Gaz, Harbrow and Pittard.  Not sure there's anyone else.

Gray will be managed, Wines inconsistent.  Any advantage you get with their bye over is probably lost on 'points lost' versus other premoes.


Ringo

Quote from: PICCOLLO on May 22, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
Lynch, Gaz, Harbrow and Pittard.  Not sure there's anyone else.

Gray will be managed, Wines inconsistent.  Any advantage you get with their bye over is probably lost on 'points lost' versus other premoes.
Wingard who is getting extra time in midfield.

Bully

Quote from: PICCOLLO on May 22, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
Lynch, Gaz, Harbrow and Pittard.  Not sure there's anyone else.

Gray will be managed, Wines inconsistent.  Any advantage you get with their bye over is probably lost on 'points lost' versus other premoes.

These guys will ultimately be M9, just need them to perform over the 3 weeks and with their draw I'm tipping good numbers.

Judd Magic

Is it just me but I'm not really interested in any of these Port/Suns players just to get me though the byes.

I don't see them as being good enough to be in my starting 22 for the rest of the season and am not even thinking about bench cover atm as I still have 3 upgrades to do.

Will think about bench cover if I have any trades left towards finals.  ;D

Ringo

I am not looking at bench warmers but players who may occupy D6/M8/F6. I am comfortable with someone who I think will average 95 at D6 and F6. History has said these positions usually average 90/95.

Bully

Quote from: Judd Magic on May 22, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
Is it just me but I'm not really interested in any of these Port/Suns players just to get me though the byes.

I don't see them as being good enough to be in my starting 22 for the rest of the season and am not even thinking about bench cover atm as I still have 3 upgrades to do.

Will think about bench cover if I have any trades left towards finals.  ;D

Happy with a 105 average from either in the run home. The points gained from the extra game played adds another 5 to the overall average. So for 450k you are getting a fair deal. The question for me is Wines or Gray, both have their pros & cons.

PICCOLLO

Quote from: Ringo on May 22, 2017, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: PICCOLLO on May 22, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
Lynch, Gaz, Harbrow and Pittard.  Not sure there's anyone else.

Gray will be managed, Wines inconsistent.  Any advantage you get with their bye over is probably lost on 'points lost' versus other premoes.
Wingard who is getting extra time in midfield.

Yeah, not a bad one. Has probably benefited from Gray's push into the FWD line.  Just some doubt over whether that time will continue. 

Ryder another to consider.

RaisyDaisy

I think Ryder (and maybe Lynch) are the only two I would consider from the teams who have had their bye. Personally, my forward line is complete so I won't be getting either at this point but they're the only two I like

GAJ/Gray/Wines/Wingard etc have been too up and down this year and don't look like being good enough for Top 10ish. Handy bench cover perhaps, but I'll be certain other cheap bench options will be available later in the year when I'm actually looking for bench cover

Cannot justify them with JPK & Dusty at 525k

Harbrow has had 5-6 good games, but a career that shows he has never gone close to maintaining 90+ all season and could end up as a trap


PICCOLLO

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 22, 2017, 07:57:04 PM
I think Ryder (and maybe Lynch) are the only two I would consider from the teams who have had their bye. Personally, my forward line is complete so I won't be getting either at this point but they're the only two I like

GAJ/Gray/Wines/Wingard etc have been too up and down this year and don't look like being good enough for Top 10ish. Handy bench cover perhaps, but I'll be certain other cheap bench options will be available later in the year when I'm actually looking for bench cover

Cannot justify them with JPK & Dusty at 525k

Harbrow has had 5-6 good games, but a career that shows he has never gone close to maintaining 90+ all season and could end up as a trap

Agree with this. Dusty and JPK look terrific for price.  Ablett will drop after this week and will be worth picking up.

Harbrow has never been anywhere near this consistent with scoring before. I think he's worth a punt as d5,d6

PowerBug

I owned Ryder and TJ Lynch from Day 1 and am happy with both picks, but for SuperCoach I am really struggling to find a way to justify getting anyone else.

Defenders:
This is the one area where maybe there's a reasonable reason to grab a premium. Harbrow has been in very good form and has had some 80+ seasons in the past for the Suns, so maybe a 90 is possible and that gives you a solid D6 option. Pittard is the other one, his DT numbers have been very good, but the SuperCoach has been a bit off this season. I think he's a wait for this week and watch the Cats game, but if he looks good then he's one to jump on next week

Midfield:
It's very tough to give a midfield spot to one of these players when there's so many players scoring big in the mids. Going through there's: Sloane, Bont, Danger, Pendles, Selwood, Rocky, Titch, Zerrett, Murphy, Neale who you can say are definitely better for the last 10 rounds than any Port or GC player. Then there's guys like Fyfe, Oliver, Treloar, JPK, Hanners who you could probably make a case for as well. Any Port midfielder to me is 100avg tops, that rules out Ebert and Gray to me. Wines is a contested beast but hasn't been performing of late. I want someone who is at least scoring well. And for Gold Coast there's only really GAJ, who you just can't risk because of his injury history.

Rucks
If you held Witts hold him through the byes of course. Wouldn't go trading in Ryder to R2 because Goldy, Stef, Grundy, Sandi are all doing better for now, and Gawn will return soon.

Forwards
TJ Lynch will be cheap next week for those that don't have him (Or maybe he scores 160 this week and doesn't get cheap ;)), certainly an option. Paddy Ryder has been very good of late and he was the first ruckman to score 100 against Witts this season, and his only sub 80 was against Sandi in only his 2nd game and our mids couldn't read his taps. His hitouts are going to advantage more now and he's up against another human stepladder this week in Zac Smith (who split the hitouts fairly evenly with Tom Boyd lol). And he has scoring history with 2 100+ seasons at Essendon. And he's sole ruck with stints up forward. Sounds pretty good to me but maybe everything I've said is biased :P



So yeah, that's where I see things for the Port and GC players for SuperCoach
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dylanclements

Agree with the consensus here I think. I'd love to pick up a Port/GC player but just can't see it being anything other than a trap. Lynch and Wingard would both be very tempting at under 450k, since forwards are a bit harder to get a good read on than other lines. GAJ has a massive be and slightly overs at the moment. Will just go without and plan carefully, and try roll with the punches, I think..

sammy123

looked at bringing in port/gc players but not sure if any are worth it. i would only consider ryder/wingard

GoLions

Pittard this week, Lynch when he bottoms out.

Harbrow could be a great pick if he keeps up this form, but don't expect him to (hope he does for bxvs doe)

Wines I think could very well go 110 in the 2nd half of the season, but don't really want to take the risk in the mids with so many other safer options available that are still relatively cheap (e.g. Jelwood, Zorko, JPK, Dusty, etc.)

Gray, similar to Wines, but needs to play a lot more mids sooner rather than later.

Ablett is tempting just because it's Ablett, but he has really struggled in SC. Only 3/8 scores over 100, obviously the 210 was amazing, but that score has come and gone. His DT has been really good so he could easily turn it around in this format. If he goes back to back hundreds, could have a look at him in R12. But more likely I'll go with a Sloane, Jelwood, Zorko, Dusty, etc.

Wingard I've looked at, but with 2 fwd spots left I want Macrae, and then obviously Lynch when he bottoms out. Could also spend less time in mids if Gray's mid time is increased.

Ryder another I've considered, but was averaging only 85 until he destroyed whoever the Iggs had in the ruck and then when Port destroyed the Suns and he went 100+ as well. Would want to see him perform for a few more weeks, but forwards should be finished by then anyway, so he's a pass for me.