WXV Round 9: Reserved

Started by Purple 77, May 16, 2017, 09:58:04 PM

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upthemaidens

Quote from: upthemaidens on May 19, 2017, 01:42:29 AM
    Pacific Islanders

D: Rory Laird, Michael Hurley, Matt Suckling, Andy Otten
M: Marcus Bontempelli (C), Tom Mitchell (VC), Andrew Gaff, Michael Barlow
R: Jarrod Witts
F: Steven Motlop, Matt Taberner, Callum Ah Chee, Matt de Boer
Int: Jarryd Lyons, Andrew Swallow

E: Sam Gibson, Lee Spurr, Alex Fasolo

Rest: Cameron Guthrie
Edit: Smith out, de Boer in

Toga

If Goldy doesn't dominate after what Sauce did last week then something is wrong.

Purple 77

Quote from: Toga on May 19, 2017, 02:03:52 PM
If Goldy doesn't dominate after what Sauce did last week then something is wrong.

I sure hope Goldstein replicates Jacobs.

Will mean we're getting some quality service  8)

Amazingly, and proudly, losing Gawn & Spencer hasn't really hurt our clearance winning ability. Viney & Oliver will get more clearances than North combined  8)

meow meow

#78
Quote from: Ricochet on May 19, 2017, 01:23:19 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2017, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: meow meow on May 19, 2017, 01:07:29 PM
HOTAs are rarely worth 5 m8. Oliver will pounce on most of the hitouts so Goldy will probably be in the negative from the taps.

SC needs to come out and fully post all their points.

if not its just a guessing game.

Dees won the clearances 49 to 38 and jacobs scores 142 so not sure what everyone is talking about.
Yeh because he got 74 hitouts.
You said 40 above


This is what i've scraped together from different sources. There'll be other things i haven't come across yet but its a fair enough guide
https://twitter.com/Ricochetthis/status/865387719911800833



On the HS site they show all the actual scores. The SC website says 4 for a kick but in reality it's 3.

Effective kick = 3
Long kick 40m+ to nothing or to a contest is deemed effective = 2
Kick long to adv = 5
Ineffective kick = 0
Clanger kick = -3
Backwards effective = 1
Effective kick in  = 1

Contested possession (loose and hard ball gets are contested) = 3 (4 inside arcs)
Uncontested possession (handball receive, mark, gather) = 1 (2 inside F50)

Intercept uncontested mark = 4 (5 in D50)
Intercept contested mark = 6 (8 in D50)
Uncontested mark (from teammate) = 1 (2 for mark from kick-in)
Contested mark (from teammate) = 3 (5 in F50)
Mark on lead = 3 (CD rarely award these, only NRoo gets them)

Effective handball = 1
Ineffective handball = 0

HOTA (within arcs) = 5
HOTA = 4, usually one of the first things scaled down so usually 3

Free kick (counts as contested possession) = 3
Free kick against = -3 if in contested situation, -5 if clanger

Clangers = -5
Kick or handball to oppo under no pressure, 50m penalty, stupid free kick against, OOF under no pressure

Goal = depends how many are scored in the match, and if the match is in the balance. Usually 7-8 but would drop to 6 if the margin is already 30 points at the time. A goal at the 30 min mark of the final quarter when the margin is 100 would be worth 4 + 3 for the effective kick.

Running bounce = 1

Contested knock on = 3

1%ers
Smother = 1
Shepherd = 1
Spoil = 1
Spoil to teammate = 3

Tackle = 3 (4 within arcs)

Score assist = 3


John Doe had 15 kicks, 10 handballs, 10 marks, 5 tackles. 115 DT Looks like a decent game.

John Doe played back pocket and took all his marks uncontested in chip around crap (10 points not 30), five of his kicks were clangers (-25 points), 10 were effective (30 points), 5 of his handballs were contested inside 50 and all 10 hit the mark (20 + 5 + 10) and all of his tackles were inside 50 (20). 5 of Johns kicks were from handball recieves (5 points).

John is a clanger machine who doesn't win his own ball. A seagull. He probably cost his team 3 goals, and may have saved a couple with his tackling. John still had a bad day and only scored 65 SC points. To make matters worse, there were 3666 raw points scored in this match so John will be scaled. Those chip around kicks in the backline were almost useless so they go from 3 each to 2 each. John scored just 55 real SC points. John is a spud.


Holz

Quote from: Purple 77 on May 19, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 19, 2017, 02:03:52 PM
If Goldy doesn't dominate after what Sauce did last week then something is wrong.

I sure hope Goldstein replicates Jacobs.

Will mean we're getting some quality service  8)

Amazingly, and proudly, losing Gawn & Spencer hasn't really hurt our clearance winning ability. Viney & Oliver will get more clearances than North combined  8)

Kinda shows that Gawn actually isnt that great and its the midfield that is great. If they can get the ball from a HO from the opponent ruck then they can get the ball from a bad HO from Gawn as well making it a HTA.




Purple 77

Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 19, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 19, 2017, 02:03:52 PM
If Goldy doesn't dominate after what Sauce did last week then something is wrong.

I sure hope Goldstein replicates Jacobs.

Will mean we're getting some quality service  8)

Amazingly, and proudly, losing Gawn & Spencer hasn't really hurt our clearance winning ability. Viney & Oliver will get more clearances than North combined  8)

Kinda shows that Gawn actually isnt that great and its the midfield that is great. If they can get the ball from a HO from the opponent ruck then they can get the ball from a bad HO from Gawn as well making it a HTA.

A fair argument. I think Gawn just makes it easier for our mids, and only marginally improves our clearance rate.

It's the big marking that makes him a star, and is HOTA ratio which is elite.

iZander

Quote from: Purple 77 on May 19, 2017, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 19, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on May 19, 2017, 03:46:46 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 19, 2017, 02:03:52 PM
If Goldy doesn't dominate after what Sauce did last week then something is wrong.

I sure hope Goldstein replicates Jacobs.

Will mean we're getting some quality service  8)

Amazingly, and proudly, losing Gawn & Spencer hasn't really hurt our clearance winning ability. Viney & Oliver will get more clearances than North combined  8)

Kinda shows that Gawn actually isnt that great and its the midfield that is great. If they can get the ball from a HO from the opponent ruck then they can get the ball from a bad HO from Gawn as well making it a HTA.

A fair argument. I think Gawn just makes it easier for our mids, and only marginally improves our clearance rate.

It's the big marking beard that makes him a star, and is HOTA ratio which is elite.

Man you are making alot of typos lately ;)

Purple 77

Quote from: iZander on May 19, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
Man you are making alot of typos lately ;)

Ha, rest assured everyone at Demonland had that fear when the beard was shaved  :-X

Quote from: Ricochet on May 19, 2017, 12:03:11 PM
Delhi Tigers New


FWD JCameron, Darling, JMartin, Cockatoo
EMER: Mullett, Rich, Cloke
UTIL Ross, Ziebell
RUCK SMartin (VC)
DEF Houli, JHowe, Hartlett, JLloyd
MID Sidebottom (C), Murphy, Gray, MCrouch

I'll fix yew, guy

Ricochet

meow can you show me where you go yours from??
Would love to get these 100% spot on

I've gotten mine from HS articles, fantasy freako and champ data on twitter, etc.

Ricochet

Quote from: Purple 77 on May 19, 2017, 04:23:30 PM
Quote from: iZander on May 19, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
Man you are making alot of typos lately ;)

Ha, rest assured everyone at Demonland had that fear when the beard was shaved  :-X

Quote from: Ricochet on May 19, 2017, 12:03:11 PM
Delhi Tigers New


FWD JCameron, Darling, JMartin, Cockatoo
EMER: Mullett, Rich, Cloke
UTIL Ross, Ziebell
RUCK SMartin (VC)
DEF Houli, JHowe, Hartlett, JLloyd
MID Sidebottom (C), Murphy, Gray, MCrouch

I'll fix yew, guy
Try sleeping now >:D

Torpedo10

Quote from: Ricochet on May 19, 2017, 04:25:42 PM
meow can you show me where you go yours from??
Would love to get these 100% spot on

I've gotten mine from HS articles, fantasy freako and champ data on twitter, etc.
Isn't it on the rules on the SC website under "Scoring"?

Ricochet

Quote from: Torpedo10 on May 19, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on May 19, 2017, 04:25:42 PM
meow can you show me where you go yours from??
Would love to get these 100% spot on

I've gotten mine from HS articles, fantasy freako and champ data on twitter, etc.
Isn't it on the rules on the SC website under "Scoring"?
Some are, but not many are listed

Torpedo10

MOSCOW

D: Docherty, May, Talia, Barrass
M: Heppell (C), Crisp, Menegola, Rosa
R: Bellchambers
F: Daniher, Bell, Taranto, Hewett
I: Graham, Burton

EMG: Hombsch, Greenwood, Clarke, Milera

We've been demolished by injuries and such.

Purple 77

Berlin

D: Michael Hibberd, Zak Jones, Michael Johnson, Jamie MacMillan (R)
M: Nat Fyfe (C), Jack Viney (VC), Jack Steven, Jobe Watson
R: Sam Frost (OOP)
F: Charlie Dixon, Lance Franklin, Daniel Menzel, Michael Walters
U: Shaun Burgoyne, Andrew Mackie
E: Luke Dunstan, Steve Johnson, Darcy Byrne-Jones

Resting: Mark LeCras

Please come back soon Gawn or Spencer.

Ringo

The Unscrupulous London Royals

Def:Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe, Adam Saad, Brad Sheppard                        
Mid: Daniel Hannerbery (C),Sam Gray, Luke Shuey (VC), Will Hartung                        
Ruck:Callum Sinclair                        
Fwds: Dean Towers, Tom T Lynch, Tim Membrey, Orazio Fantasia                        
Util:Lin Jong,  Mav Weller                        
                        
Emergencies:  Will Langford, Neville Jetta, Blake Hardwick                        
                        
In: Dane Rampe, Dean Towers, Will Hartung                        
Out: Claye Beams, Blake Hardwick, Will Langford                        

hartung returns after his rest and we welcome Dane Rampe back to stiffen defence.