Rory Sloane

Started by doogz, May 01, 2017, 11:05:26 AM

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Judd Magic

Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.

dylanclements

Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.

Will become cheaper, all players fluctuate enough to say that he will be below his current price in the next three months. Knowing when is the hard part and I often think it's better to just pay than crystal ball too much.

100% do not buy that he can't handle a tag. Vince smashed him - as he has done many, including danger - and no doubt he will be beaten many times more in his career, but he's a CB and tackling beast who has copped stacks of attention for years. Will be fine with the tag

TomK

Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.

PowerBug

Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Wouldn't call Nick Robertson and expert at tagging though :P And Connor Blakely doesn't seem to listen to what Ross tells him and just goes and gets his own ball anyway. It wasn't anything like what Vince did (And maybe what Scooter will do this Friday??)
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TomK

Quote from: PowerBug on May 29, 2017, 10:12:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Wouldn't call Nick Robertson and expert at tagging though :P And Connor Blakely doesn't seem to listen to what Ross tells him and just goes and gets his own ball anyway. It wasn't anything like what Vince did (And maybe what Scooter will do this Friday??)
Ehh a tag is a tag :P

Both teams tried it and it failed, I'm confident Sloane knows how to handle a tag, and I don't think anyone can do what Vince does against us haha, done a job like that twice now, once against Danger and now Sloane.

Judd Magic

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Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.

Ha! Ha! You're kidding right?  ::)

Lions (without Robinson) and Freo (no Barlow anymore) = non existent taggers mate....

Sloane melts like butter when a decent tagger is on him all day.

Plays like a champion with no decent tag on him though.

TomK

Quote from: Judd Magic on May 30, 2017, 03:16:50 AM
Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.

He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.

Ha! Ha! You're kidding right?  ::)

Lions (without Robinson) and Freo (no Barlow anymore) = non existent taggers mate....

Sloane melts like butter when a decent tagger is on him all day.

Plays like a champion with no decent tag on him though.
Nick Robertson and Connor Blakely tried to tag him but sure.

shaker

Tag or no tag after 10 rounds he is the highest scoring mid

Holz

going to get the scott selwood tag this week are we worried at all?

GCSkiwi

Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2017, 10:42:15 AM
going to get the scott selwood tag this week are we worried at all?

BE 49 so you've basically got to pray he gets towelled up and scores 70-80, price still goes up a bit, same situation again next week, bye round 13, then big BE round 14 as the 177 leaves, try to pick him up round 15 - will he even be lower price than now??? is it worth it???


Quote from: shaker on May 30, 2017, 10:21:49 AM
Tag or no tag after 10 rounds he is the highest scoring mid



batt

Scooter's tags are always light ones.  Sloane will still have enough opportunities.

Can't avoid the #1 scoring player in SC at sub $600k with a low BE.  R13 bye hurting most people.  If you have wiggle room in R13, he's a must IMO.

tommy10

Quote from: batt on May 30, 2017, 12:16:43 PM
Scooter's tags are always light ones.  Sloane will still have enough opportunities.

Can't avoid the #1 scoring player in SC at sub $600k with a low BE.  R13 bye hurting most people.  If you have wiggle room in R13, he's a must IMO.
Yeah if it wasn't for the round 13 bye I would get him without hesitation. But have so many premos out that week  :(

GCSkiwi

Quote from: tommy10 on May 30, 2017, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: batt on May 30, 2017, 12:16:43 PM
Scooter's tags are always light ones.  Sloane will still have enough opportunities.

Can't avoid the #1 scoring player in SC at sub $600k with a low BE.  R13 bye hurting most people.  If you have wiggle room in R13, he's a must IMO.
Yeah if it wasn't for the round 13 bye I would get him without hesitation. But have so many premos out that week  :(

It's a maths argument. If you don't get Sloane now, how many points do you miss in the gap between now and when you get him, and how much money do you pay? Is that better or worse than possibly copping a donut round 13?

Work out who you'll be trading out to get Sloane in. Say it's a round bye player, it's bye neutral. But your plan might have been to wait until round 12/13 and trade to someone who has already had their bye. That could still work, but say you get 75 + 75 round 11 and 12 from that rook, then pick up someone like Jelwood/Bont for round 13, get 115 points. Sloane has gone say 125 + 125 + 0. So The Jelwood/Bont option gets you 75+75+115 = 165 points, Sloane with a side of donut gets you 125+125+0 = 250. Not a big difference.

Where it really matters is how long after the byes until you get Sloane. If you get him round 14, you're paying top dollar for him, and his BE will probably come up because the 177 will drop out of his average. But ok, you're 15 points ahead. Round 15 his price drops a little, but you had your 115 prem against Sloane 125, so now you're only 5 points ahead. Round 16, his price might be back where it is now, and your 115 vs 125 means you're 5 points behind now.

His current projections predict his price to be at a low again in round 17/18, I think the projections are maybe optimistic but I think 16/17 is realistic, and I don't think he'll be cheaper than he is now. If you wait until then, the points you miss will likely be more than just getting him now and eating a donut.


Bully

Sloane versus Wines

105 + 105 + 105 = 315

vs

125 + 125 + 0 = 250

Then up to round 17 when Sloane bottoms out again, 105 x 3 = 315 versus 125 x 3 = 375

Net result = Wines +5

dylanclements

Well put. The only thing I would emphasis is his high SD, and the fact he's gone over 139 four times [edit: five times]. So while all of what you say sounds right, with Sloane, much like Danger, you take the further risk that he pulls out a 160 in rd. 14. This costs both points and prevents him from coming back down in price.

This thinking is basically why as I rule I think it's worth just paying for the Dangers, Pendles, Sloanes of the world. It's true that you could have saved ~125k by waiting for Danger or to come down but knowing when he's going to get two 90s in a row and when he's going to go 150 then 200 is too hard and is basically just looking into a crystal ball. Same goes for Sloane - if you it fits your structure I think you just have to get him now