XVs CL 2017 - Group Stage 4 Banter Thread

[PowerBug]

Fixtures:
Group A:
Mongolian Lambs vs Winchester Werewolves
Belgian Bashers vs Mexico City Suns

Group B:
Pacific Islanders vs Hungarian Hulks
Sri Lanka Strikers vs Hastings Hurricanes

Group C:
Buenos Aires Armadillos vs Kathmandu Eskimos
Birmingham Dragons vs Serbian Eagles

Group D:
Croatian Crushers vs Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
UAE Tigers vs Bradford Badgers

Group E:
Laos Elephants vs Iceland Polar Bears
Hebdenbridge Hedgehogs vs Dublin Destroyers

Group F:
Swansea Breakers vs Kuala Lumpar Crocodiles
New York Revolution vs Russian Roulettes

Group G:
Swiss Storm vs Oxford Owls
Paris Nice Lyon Reindeers vs Turkey Gazelles

Group H:
Leeds Leeches vs New Delhi Tigers
Svalbard Valkyries vs Bangkok Crabs

[Ricochet]

Dublin are pie

[PowerBug]

Dublin are pie

But are Leeds, Mexico and Swansea?

[kilbluff1985]

Hey PB, in the interests of equity for the comp would it be worth counting the teams (that didn't lodge in round 1 and/or 2) actual scores as posted in their respective leagues.
As it seems unfair for those that didn't play those teams, to have others receive the massive % booster because of the token 500 points as opposed to the scores actually posted.
Regardless of the scores attained the forfeits should still stand though.

[PowerBug]

Hey PB, in the interests of equity for the comp would it be worth counting the teams (that didn't lodge in round 1 and/or 2) actual scores as posted in their respective leagues.
As it seems unfair for those that didn't play those teams, to have others receive the massive % booster because of the token 500 points as opposed to the scores actually posted.
Regardless of the scores attained the forfeits should still stand though.

What exactly is being asked here?

Those teams that have come in will be coming from a % disadvantage and copping the 500 point scores, they shouldn't really be in the comp it's more because I didn't want 500 point scores every week (Essentially making there a 3 team group). I thought 500 was nice as the alternative is 0, no team was submitted remember!!

[kilbluff1985]

whats being asked is

to keep the comp competitive

teams coming in don't cop the previous teams punishments

and use the teams scores from teams posted in their leagues

you might say other leagues don't do this but other leagues don't completely replace teams and not as important as this league

i think it should be put to a vote if people don't agree then i will forget about it

just not fair for new coaches to receive the punishment

[iZander]

Hey PB, in the interests of equity for the comp would it be worth counting the teams (that didn't lodge in round 1 and/or 2) actual scores as posted in their respective leagues.
As it seems unfair for those that didn't play those teams, to have others receive the massive % booster because of the token 500 points as opposed to the scores actually posted.
Regardless of the scores attained the forfeits should still stand though.

What exactly is being asked here?

Those teams that have come in will be coming from a % disadvantage and copping the 500 point scores, they shouldn't really be in the comp it's more because I didn't want 500 point scores every week (Essentially making there a 3 team group). I thought 500 was nice as the alternative is 0, no team was submitted remember!!

From what i understood Nostra was asking that the score of those teams posted in there respective leagues count instead of the 500 to not make the percentages so unfair, eg a team getting a massive percentage boost ect. Was not asking for those scores to be able to get a win though, the team that doesnt name the team loses regardless of their score? idk thats what i understood

[PowerBug]

Hey PB, in the interests of equity for the comp would it be worth counting the teams (that didn't lodge in round 1 and/or 2) actual scores as posted in their respective leagues.
As it seems unfair for those that didn't play those teams, to have others receive the massive % booster because of the token 500 points as opposed to the scores actually posted.
Regardless of the scores attained the forfeits should still stand though.

What exactly is being asked here?

Those teams that have come in will be coming from a % disadvantage and copping the 500 point scores, they shouldn't really be in the comp it's more because I didn't want 500 point scores every week (Essentially making there a 3 team group). I thought 500 was nice as the alternative is 0, no team was submitted remember!!

From what i understood Nostra was asking that the score of those teams posted in there respective leagues count instead of the 500 to not make the percentages so unfair, eg a team getting a massive percentage boost ect. Was not asking for those scores to be able to get a win though, the team that doesnt name the team loses regardless of their score? idk thats what i understood

I'll see where the %s sit (as I honestly haven't created the ladders yet), but if anything changes, it'll be the "against" column for the teams that were awarded the walkover win.

Other thought is to change 500 to a bigger number.

Got to remember that for Birmingham, Kathmandu and Turkey they were lucky to be replaced in to begin with. In the cases of Russia, Bangkok and now Rio, I'll see what things look like then take it from there.

[PowerBug]

Could someone involved with BXV give me the player by player scores for the teams involved there? Sorry if it takes up time, I have no access to BXV so can't do so myself.

[PowerBug]

Unfortunately it's a bit much with 32 teams to do everything in one sitting. Results will be up tomorrow. In the meantime, the ladders are up in the Group Stage 3 Thread so everyone could see where they were heading into this round :)

[kilbluff1985]

Quietly confident vs Serbian this week

[kilbluff1985]

btw PB ask dave for the british scores will be easy for him

[GoLions]

Just got home after being out all day so will get to it tomorrow if no one else has :)

[Ringo]

Just got home after being out all day so will get to it tomorrow if no one else has :)

doing it atm Dave so will have up when finished.

[Ringo]

British Scores
Swansea Breakers:

DEF: Claye Beams (134), Harris Andrews (120), Heath Shaw (154), Lee Spurr (91)
MIDS: Chris Masten (167), Liam Picken (97), Touk Miller (155) , Jordan Lewis (179)
RUCK:  Stefan Martin (C) (133x2)
FORWARDS: Blake Acres (134), Josh Kennedy (173), Eric Hipwood (45), George Hewett (129)
UTILITY: Koby Stevens (187), Shaun Burgoyne (124)

Hebden Bridge Round 4

DEF: L. Montagna (159), D. Rich (125), J. Geary (136) , A. Mullett (145)
MID: L. Neale (205), L. Parker (185), D. Martin (c) (198x2), A. Neal-Bullen (53)
RUC: C. Sinclair (179)
FWD: T. Greene (127), L. Greenwood (88), J. Watts (145) , M. Weller (151)
UTL: M. Wright (138), D. Zaharakis (121)

Leeds Leeches

D: Alex Rance (145), Jeremy Howe (113), Michael Johnson (133), Dylan Roberton (213)
M: David Mundy (121), Jack Viney (148), Clayton Oliver (189), Gary Ablett (C) (352 X 2 )
R: Sam Jacobs (231)
F: Isaac Smith (109), Jack Billings (129), Taylor Walker (131) , Karl Amon (144)
U: Dom Tyson (163) , Tom Scully (147)

Hurricanes

Def: Laird (181), Pittard (137), Zac Williams (172), Salem (137)
Mid: JPK (C) (164 x 2), Jelwood (127), Nathan Jones (165), Brendon Goddard (198)
Ruck: Mummy (126)
Fwd: Westhoff (119), Stringer (110), Matera (99), Pedobear (176)
Int: Shane Edwards , Dumont (121)

Emg: Newnes (175), Barrass, Lobb

Birmingham

D: Matthew Suckling 141, Robbie Tarrant 121, Robert Murphy 117, Kaiden Brand 112
M: Tom Mitchell 225, Tom Rockliff 137 (VC), Mitch Duncan 181, Zach Merrett (C) (178 x 2)
R: Ben McEvoy 151
F: Josh Caddy 95, Steven Motlop 133, Josh Jenkins 76, Luke Breust 71
I/C: Brad Ebert 159, Aaron Hall 84

E: Jack Crisp (M), Darcy Byrne-Jones (D),  Orazio Fantasia(F)

Winchester Werewolves (Rd.4)

D: Kade Simpson (241) , Luke Hodge (194), Michael Hibberd (141)  Nic Newman (104)
M: Nathan Fyfe (C) (117 x 2), Patrick Cripps (178), Matt Priddis (196), Robbie Gray (118)
R: Toby Nankervis (154)
F: Luke Dahlhaus (157), Travis Colyer (138), Jack Steele (199), Jarryd Roughead (127)
I: Dayne Zorko (135), Sam Gibson (133)

Bradford Badgers

DEF: Tom Cutler (163), Shannon Hurn (137), Jarrod Harbrow (167), Kamdyn McIntosh (108)
MID: Luke Shuey (C) (170 x 2), Trent Cotchin (206), Dion Prestia (111), Tom Liberatore (108)
RUCK: Jarrod Witts (90)
FWD: Tom J Lynch (113), Shaun Higgins (204), Sir Daniel of Caleb (170), Mark LeCras (148)
UTIL: Michael Barlow (129), Jack Redden (108)

Oxford Owls:

D: S.Docherty (252), J.Johannisen (106), Z.Tuohy (165), S.Mayes (113)
M: S.Pendlebury (C) (220 x 2), O.Wines (120), B.Gibbs (160),  M.Robinson (192)
R: A.Sandilands (138).
F: J.Gunston (93), J.Riewoldt (110), R.Lester (99), L.Jong (116).
U: C.Guthrie (123), J.O'Meara (81)

If I have made a mistake with any please advise PB.