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Started by strikeforce, April 26, 2017, 10:30:56 AM

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Judd Magic

Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: kosduras on April 26, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
torn between buddy and yeo

yeo has hurt me in the past but i feel like he will hurt me this year not having him.. huge ceiling and very consistent at home which

is common with a lot of WCE players..

but buddy is stupidly cheap at the moment and cant see him not being a top 6 come years end? both evenly priced but a 15 point

average difference as it stands in yeos favour, finally looked settled across half back, but buddy set to be going big very soon....

Thoughts ????

Would go Buddy easy.

Years and years of being a premo about to play 3 easy teams.

Yeo is all over the place 83 149 59

You say Yeo's scores have been all over the place with 59 being his only real bad score yet Buddy has scored low 70's the last 2 weeks.

Only reason Yeo scored so bad on the weekend was due to his coach moving him from half back to the forward line where he looked lost.

King_Robbo

Quote from: Judd Magic on April 26, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: kosduras on April 26, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
torn between buddy and yeo

yeo has hurt me in the past but i feel like he will hurt me this year not having him.. huge ceiling and very consistent at home which

is common with a lot of WCE players..

but buddy is stupidly cheap at the moment and cant see him not being a top 6 come years end? both evenly priced but a 15 point

average difference as it stands in yeos favour, finally looked settled across half back, but buddy set to be going big very soon....

Thoughts ????

Would go Buddy easy.

Years and years of being a premo about to play 3 easy teams.

Yeo is all over the place 83 149 59

You say Yeo's scores have been all over the place with 59 being his only real bad score yet Buddy has scored low 70's the last 2 weeks.

Only reason Yeo scored so bad on the weekend was due to his coach moving him from half back to the forward line where he looked lost.

I agree - I think Simpson actually has no idea how to get the best out of Yeo.
I think it is this simple, if Yeo is played off a half back flank for the rest of the year he averages 100+ however if that spud coach Simpson keeps moving him around he'll average barely 80..

Holz

Quote from: Judd Magic on April 26, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: kosduras on April 26, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
torn between buddy and yeo

yeo has hurt me in the past but i feel like he will hurt me this year not having him.. huge ceiling and very consistent at home which

is common with a lot of WCE players..

but buddy is stupidly cheap at the moment and cant see him not being a top 6 come years end? both evenly priced but a 15 point

average difference as it stands in yeos favour, finally looked settled across half back, but buddy set to be going big very soon....

Thoughts ????

Would go Buddy easy.

Years and years of being a premo about to play 3 easy teams.

Yeo is all over the place 83 149 59

You say Yeo's scores have been all over the place with 59 being his only real bad score yet Buddy has scored low 70's the last 2 weeks.

Only reason Yeo scored so bad on the weekend was due to his coach moving him from half back to the forward line where he looked lost.

ill take a 70 as a bad score from a forward premo.

concern with Yeo is 59 is a bad score.


as others have said its 100% due to his role as he clearly can score when in a good postion. His end to last year would put me picking him up.

41 50 84 64 29 46

Just think buddy has as much upside but without that terrible downside.



Judd Magic

Quote from: King_Robbo on April 26, 2017, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 26, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: kosduras on April 26, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
torn between buddy and yeo

yeo has hurt me in the past but i feel like he will hurt me this year not having him.. huge ceiling and very consistent at home which

is common with a lot of WCE players..

but buddy is stupidly cheap at the moment and cant see him not being a top 6 come years end? both evenly priced but a 15 point

average difference as it stands in yeos favour, finally looked settled across half back, but buddy set to be going big very soon....

Thoughts ????

Would go Buddy easy.

Years and years of being a premo about to play 3 easy teams.

Yeo is all over the place 83 149 59

You say Yeo's scores have been all over the place with 59 being his only real bad score yet Buddy has scored low 70's the last 2 weeks.

Only reason Yeo scored so bad on the weekend was due to his coach moving him from half back to the forward line where he looked lost.

I agree - I think Simpson actually has no idea how to get the best out of Yeo.
I think it is this simple, if Yeo is played off a half back flank for the rest of the year he averages 100+ however if that spud coach Simpson keeps moving him around he'll average barely 80..

100% agree with this.

Simpson is a spud of a coach when it comes to Yeo.

He never learns and just throws him out of position whenever West Coast are getting flogged!  ::)

When Yeo is left at half back he excels.

Judd Magic

Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 03:28:55 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 26, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: kosduras on April 26, 2017, 11:43:05 AM
torn between buddy and yeo

yeo has hurt me in the past but i feel like he will hurt me this year not having him.. huge ceiling and very consistent at home which

is common with a lot of WCE players..

but buddy is stupidly cheap at the moment and cant see him not being a top 6 come years end? both evenly priced but a 15 point

average difference as it stands in yeos favour, finally looked settled across half back, but buddy set to be going big very soon....

Thoughts ????

Would go Buddy easy.

Years and years of being a premo about to play 3 easy teams.

Yeo is all over the place 83 149 59

You say Yeo's scores have been all over the place with 59 being his only real bad score yet Buddy has scored low 70's the last 2 weeks.

Only reason Yeo scored so bad on the weekend was due to his coach moving him from half back to the forward line where he looked lost.

ill take a 70 as a bad score from a forward premo.

concern with Yeo is 59 is a bad score.


as others have said its 100% due to his role as he clearly can score when in a good postion. His end to last year would put me picking him up.

41 50 84 64 29 46

Just think buddy has as much upside but without that terrible downside.

That's the thing though.

59 wont be a usual bad score from Yeo if spud Simpson stops moving him forward whenever they are getting flogged!

His bad/average scores will more likely be around 80 if left at half back!

Last years scores don't really have anything to do with this year either.

The low scores from Yeo were most likely when he was playing forward or mid.

Yeo is more mature since then aswell and was settled at half back scoring consistently well until last week.

AaronKirk

Quote from: My Chumps on April 26, 2017, 10:35:48 AM
He's looked good in every game so far this year, just hasn't had much in terms of delivery or opportunity. Swans should win the next five if they're any hope of resurrecting their season so now would be an ideal time to jump on imo, regardless of his b/e.

I can give Sydney only 2 definite wins in the next 5. Being against Carlton and Brisbane in the next 2 weeks. St Kilda in Melbourne, Hawthorn (despite their bad form) and Bulldogs are no certainties.

If you want Buddy in your side you should look to bring him into your side in the next 2 weeks.

I am bringing Macrae this week but will be watching closely.

Holz

Quote from: Judd Magic on April 26, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
That's the thing though.

59 wont be a usual bad score from Yeo if spud Simpson stops moving him forward whenever they are getting flogged!

His bad/average scores will more likely be around 80 if left at half back!

Last years scores don't really have anything to do with this year either.

The low scores from Yeo were most likely when he was playing forward or mid.

Yeo is more mature since then aswell and was settled at half back scoring consistently well until last week.

So in order to pick him you have to have confidence that his role wont change, despite it historically changing all the time and changed on the weekend.

secondly teams wont start to add additional defensive pressure on him if he is killing it off the backline.

he consistently can play elite all year at 24 in his 6th year in the system.


v

one of the games greats a little down on form but still going 70+

Buddy role wont change
teams already put as much pressure as they can on him
buddy has years of being elite.

could be wrong but logic says buddy.

Judd Magic

Quote from: Holz on April 26, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on April 26, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
That's the thing though.

59 wont be a usual bad score from Yeo if spud Simpson stops moving him forward whenever they are getting flogged!

His bad/average scores will more likely be around 80 if left at half back!

Last years scores don't really have anything to do with this year either.

The low scores from Yeo were most likely when he was playing forward or mid.

Yeo is more mature since then aswell and was settled at half back scoring consistently well until last week.

So in order to pick him you have to have confidence that his role wont change, despite it historically changing all the time and changed on the weekend.

secondly teams wont start to add additional defensive pressure on him if he is killing it off the backline.

he consistently can play elite all year at 24 in his 6th year in the system.


v

one of the games greats a little down on form but still going 70+

Buddy role wont change
teams already put as much pressure as they can on him
buddy has years of being elite.

could be wrong but logic says buddy.

Whose to say this isn't Yeos breakout season though?

Buddy isn't getting any younger either and has had a history with that knee of his.

Swans are on the decline too compared to West Coast on the up.

West Coast don't play at the G again where they have traditionally struggled as of late.

I'll back Yeo in I guess and just treat last week as a blip on the radar.  ;D

Bully

I'm giving Buddy one more week to prove himself. Three 70's would ring alarm bells for any other player, granted his record is outstanding but with guys like Riewoldt x2, Kennedy, Lynch etc I think it's worth waiting. Big BE so can always grab him if he turns in a blinder.

Capper

Quote from: Ringo on April 26, 2017, 02:43:01 PM
Started with Buddy and not moving.
Looking forward to him v Carlton this weekend

RaisyDaisy

Won't even consider him until Round 12

Too many Round 11 prems already

Judd Magic

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 26, 2017, 06:35:02 PM
Won't even consider him until Round 12

Too many Round 11 prems already

Same....

Although I think round 13 is even worse for me.  :-X

_wato

Absolute no brainer bringing him in.

As Holz has stated hasn't dropped below 81dt and reason for his low conversion is bad efficiency, team losing and bad ball use going forward. When Parker Hanners and the swans team lift it'll have a direct effect on buddy imo.

This year 97dt to 89sc, last year 94dt to 95sc so is finding more of the footy which is actually a positive for me. He cleans up his use and he might be close to a 100 average. Isn't easy being 0-5 and playing with young players. He'll improve. Expecting a big game against Carlton and definitely against Brisbane.

Teams up until the bye he went 102, 86, 106, 102, 34 injured Q1, 101, 75, 141

Looks a good reading.

enzedder

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 26, 2017, 06:35:02 PM
Won't even consider him until Round 12

Too many Round 11 prems already
Yeah, there is this.

GoLions

Pending rookies and such, could be coming into my team this week