Early bolters: (Higgins and Murphy) Opinions

[WizzFizz]

At this stage, is it worth trading out players such as Roughy and JOM to possible keepers in Murphy and Higgins.

Ive heard many different opinions on this dilemma and i just want to accompany peoples opinions with some stats.

Cheers

[sammy123]

not really both will come good

[OdisCrows]

JOM to Murphy maybe- Until JOM is confident enough to kick & tackle he's pointless imo. 36 touches for 90 or whatever he got... the way he kicked a free kick on the wkend from the 50 just popping it up to 15m's out showed his lack of confidence

Roughy to Higgins NO- atleast until after this week anyway. Roughy won't lose value & is working his way into some better scores, has been out of the game for a while 2 70+  ain't that bad. Higgins averaging 120 after 2 games won't suck me in YET but I'm sure when he does he'll get injured

[StuL]

I've seen both of Roughy's games and not liking how tired he seemed to get. How many people come back and play elite sport after cancer, really? Expecting too much of him I think and thus it was a mistake picking him. He'll probably get 170 this week too but I doubt it.

[Huttabito]

If Higgins can pit it against GWS this week, then I'd consider him, especially if Roughie fails to impress against Gold Coast too.

[LordSneeze]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

[woodsman]

To add to Higgo and Murph.. what about the Nank and Sammy Reid? I'm really tempted to bring in murph and nank but can't find a good way of doing it. Then I noticed Sammy Reid.. another SC trap?

[WizzFizz]

To add to Higgo and Murph.. what about the Nank and Sammy Reid? I'm really tempted to bring in murph and nank but can't find a good way of doing it. Then I noticed Sammy Reid.. another SC trap?

sam reid is averaging 4.5 goals.

when he settles to 2ish he will lose 25 points per game, leaing him with 80ish

he may make some quick cash but he will not be a keeper, higgins and murphy may/should be keepers

[OdisCrows]

I've seen both of Roughy's games and not liking how tired he seemed to get. How many people come back and play elite sport after cancer, really? Expecting too much of him I think and thus it was a mistake picking him. He'll probably get 170 this week too but I doubt it.

Bit harsh calling it a mistake when his score this week should be make or break for most coaches

[piesfan1989]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

Finally someone is talking some sense.

The title of this thread says it all...these players are simply early bolters. If SC were a sprint, then jump on...but there are 20 rounds of footy left to be played. Given higgins' injury history, it would be fair to say he's not a long distance runner. Murphy could be a different story though given his previous scoring history

[Bully]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

I look at things differently, both players are chronically undervalued for what they can produce. Murphy will at least hit 550k which could facilitate an upgrade to Rocky, Selwood, Bont etc. He may even settle into a nice pattern of 100-120 scores which will more than vindicate his selection. Higgins is one of the few forwards with a 120+ ceiling, he should also nudge 550k if he maintains his new role.

The argument should not just be whether these guys are keepers, it should also be about their cash generation. Both represent an  effective means to raise 250k which is gold at this stage in the game. With 28 trades left I'm not even fussed if they drop off a little.

[LordSneeze]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

I look at things differently, both players are chronically undervalued for what they can produce. Murphy will at least hit 550k which could facilitate an upgrade to Rocky, Selwood, Bont etc. He may even settle into a nice pattern of 100-120 scores which will more than vindicate his selection. Higgins is one of the few forwards with a 120+ ceiling, he should also nudge 550k if he maintains his new role.

The argument should not just be whether these guys are keepers, it should also be about their cash generation. Both represent an  effective means to raise 250k which is gold at this stage in the game. With 28 trades left I'm not even fussed if they drop off a little.

They were undervalued as starting options, but i don't feel as trade in options they are undervalued.
Look at the value you put on them at the cutoff of what you would be happy to hold as a premium. .
Muphy 550k
Higgins 500k

So if you take those values iMurphy makes $118k & Higgins $72k to when they become end of year premium. Cash generation is irrelevant in correction trades for both these players as if they make enough they will be kept as premiums.

The only way i see these as viable trade in options is if you are trading out a injured premium or a failed MP option that will not make Cash (ROughy, JOM etc will still make good $$$ and be a worthwhile stepping stone.)

[Bully]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

I look at things differently, both players are chronically undervalued for what they can produce. Murphy will at least hit 550k which could facilitate an upgrade to Rocky, Selwood, Bont etc. He may even settle into a nice pattern of 100-120 scores which will more than vindicate his selection. Higgins is one of the few forwards with a 120+ ceiling, he should also nudge 550k if he maintains his new role.

The argument should not just be whether these guys are keepers, it should also be about their cash generation. Both represent an  effective means to raise 250k which is gold at this stage in the game. With 28 trades left I'm not even fussed if they drop off a little.

They were undervalued as starting options, but i don't feel as trade in options they are undervalued.
Look at the value you put on them at the cutoff of what you would be happy to hold as a premium. .
Muphy 550k
Higgins 500k

So if you take those values iMurphy makes $118k & Higgins $72k to when they become end of year premium. Cash generation is irrelevant in correction trades for both these players as if they make enough they will be kept as premiums.

The only way i see these as viable trade in options is if you are trading out a injured premium or a failed MP option that will not make Cash (ROughy, JOM etc will still make good $$$ and be a worthwhile stepping stone.)

It's a combination of two factors - potential to be a keeper & cash generation. For my money Roughie is not a keeper this year and won't make much money over the coming weeks. O'Meara I'm more bullish on but if the rookies are sorted then a switch to Murphy isn't a bad trade. Those carrying Roughie better hope he doesn't throw in a 40-50 score this week because that will pretty much put you in no mans land when it comes to finding a replacment.

The trade I'm recommending would be Roughie to Murphy, moving Parfitt/Pickett to the forward line. Can't lose IMO.

[LordSneeze]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

I look at things differently, both players are chronically undervalued for what they can produce. Murphy will at least hit 550k which could facilitate an upgrade to Rocky, Selwood, Bont etc. He may even settle into a nice pattern of 100-120 scores which will more than vindicate his selection. Higgins is one of the few forwards with a 120+ ceiling, he should also nudge 550k if he maintains his new role.

The argument should not just be whether these guys are keepers, it should also be about their cash generation. Both represent an  effective means to raise 250k which is gold at this stage in the game. With 28 trades left I'm not even fussed if they drop off a little.

They were undervalued as starting options, but i don't feel as trade in options they are undervalued.
Look at the value you put on them at the cutoff of what you would be happy to hold as a premium. .
Muphy 550k
Higgins 500k

So if you take those values iMurphy makes $118k & Higgins $72k to when they become end of year premium. Cash generation is irrelevant in correction trades for both these players as if they make enough they will be kept as premiums.

The only way i see these as viable trade in options is if you are trading out a injured premium or a failed MP option that will not make Cash (ROughy, JOM etc will still make good $$$ and be a worthwhile stepping stone.)

It's a combination of two factors - potential to be a keeper & cash generation. For my money Roughie is not a keeper this year and won't make much money over the coming weeks. O'Meara I'm more bullish on but if the rookies are sorted then a switch to Murphy isn't a bad trade. Those carrying Roughie better hope he doesn't throw in a 40-50 score this week because that will pretty much put you in no mans land when it comes to finding a replacment.

The trade I'm recommending would be Roughie to Murphy, moving Parfitt/Pickett to the forward line. Can't lose IMO.

Parfitt/Pickett are bigger issues IMO. I see atleast 1 being dropped this week and the other in the next 1-2 weeks.

[Bully]

Higgins to me was a start option not worth a correction. Wait till he can back up 6-7 rounds then look to bring him in as an upgrade.

Murphy IMO not worth it. Again it is a similar situation to Higgins, If you started him well done, but not worth the correction as it could just be a flash in the pan few rounds.

I look at things differently, both players are chronically undervalued for what they can produce. Murphy will at least hit 550k which could facilitate an upgrade to Rocky, Selwood, Bont etc. He may even settle into a nice pattern of 100-120 scores which will more than vindicate his selection. Higgins is one of the few forwards with a 120+ ceiling, he should also nudge 550k if he maintains his new role.

The argument should not just be whether these guys are keepers, it should also be about their cash generation. Both represent an  effective means to raise 250k which is gold at this stage in the game. With 28 trades left I'm not even fussed if they drop off a little.

They were undervalued as starting options, but i don't feel as trade in options they are undervalued.
Look at the value you put on them at the cutoff of what you would be happy to hold as a premium. .
Muphy 550k
Higgins 500k

So if you take those values iMurphy makes $118k & Higgins $72k to when they become end of year premium. Cash generation is irrelevant in correction trades for both these players as if they make enough they will be kept as premiums.

The only way i see these as viable trade in options is if you are trading out a injured premium or a failed MP option that will not make Cash (ROughy, JOM etc will still make good $$$ and be a worthwhile stepping stone.)

It's a combination of two factors - potential to be a keeper & cash generation. For my money Roughie is not a keeper this year and won't make much money over the coming weeks. O'Meara I'm more bullish on but if the rookies are sorted then a switch to Murphy isn't a bad trade. Those carrying Roughie better hope he doesn't throw in a 40-50 score this week because that will pretty much put you in no mans land when it comes to finding a replacment.

The trade I'm recommending would be Roughie to Murphy, moving Parfitt/Pickett to the forward line. Can't lose IMO.

Parfitt/Pickett are bigger issues IMO. I see atleast 1 being dropped this week and the other in the next 1-2 weeks.

Let's just wait and see, if one is dropped then the loophole is activated. Next week there will be Hayward & Miles on the bubble.