Brownlow 2017

[Big Mac]

funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't

Nathan Jones as well

I assume you mean because of Oliver. Oliver is similar to Macrae, heaps of good games, rarely stands out. If the Brownlow was top 5 each week then Oliver would have 20+ votes i reckon :p

Oliver > Macrae  ;)

[GoLions]

funny both u guys git Billings winning but afl don't

Nathan Jones as well

I assume you mean because of Oliver. Oliver is similar to Macrae, heaps of good games, rarely stands out. If the Brownlow was top 5 each week then Oliver would have 20+ votes i reckon :p

Oliver > Macrae  ;)

Well yeah, what's your point :p

[GoLions]

My final team vote predictions.  Disclaimer: If you follow me and put your life savings on this then don't send me death threats if a few don't pan out.  ;D  Personally I'll be looking across a few counts and basing it on that, not solely my count.

Here's my team votes list at the end of R23:

Figured I'd do some comparisons between our votes!

Crows - Both have Sloaney on 26, and Matty Crouch on 16. You have Laird also 16, I have him just behind on 13. Probably lean to Crouch without Sloaney here, but Lairdy a chance

Lions - Perhaps my bias could have impacted my votes here, gave guys like Squizz and Hipwood votes in the Bombers and Suns games. Beams came home like a steamtrain and I had him poll 9 votes in the last 6 games. Zorko should take out most votes, but could be close.

Blues - Another one where we've differed a bit, but both have Murphy ahead. Will be interesting to see how this goes, not confident in either though.

Pies - You've given Adams a couple more, I've given Sidey a couple more. Rest is fairly even. I think Adams should get most votes though.

Bombers - Zerrett should get this, Heppell vs Daniher without Zerrett could be interesting

Freo - Pretty similar, Fyfe most votes here

Cats - Selwood should hang on without Danger here. Both have Danger just short of Dusty for most votes

Suns - Ablett easily, most votes without him will be close though

GWS - Looks like I've given a fair few extra to Kelly. Thought he finished the season really well myself, few BOGs there. Ward should get most votes without Kelly

Hawks - Tmitch easily, I haven't given him as many votes though. Gunston/Roughy/Burgoyne without Tmitch too close to call

Dees - Jones should get most votes, I dunno what his odds are but could be good money too. People may go for Oliver, but not enough standout games which is shown in both our votes

Norf - I think Higgins should get most votes here, but could go either way honestly. Some games I almost gave votes to Cunnington, but ended up placing him 4th or 5th best

Port - This is quite different, so I'd maybe stay away from Port! Gray, Wingard, Wines should be top 3, but who knows on the order. Port very rarely had a standout player in any of their wins, always having a number of guys performing well without being exceptional

Tigs - Dusty just pipping Danger on most votes, Cotchin most without Dusty comfortably

Saints - Billings over Ross, Steven in 3rd. Apparently Ross is the favourite, so Billings could be good money here!

Swans - Buddy and JPK will be close, Parker finished really well but won't catch up. Probably wouldn't touch the Swans here

Iggs - It'll be Shuey vs JJK I'd imagine, again probably one I'd stay away from. Gaff, Priddis, Yeo, SMitch could all possibly steal extra votes too

Dogs - Bont easily, Dahl or Macrae without him. Again not one I'd be confident on

[Gandalf123]

Jones at 6.50 on sb most team votes

[Commandorust]

Hi all, read this forum most the year but first time posting. I've been running my own count a little differently. Basically across the games I gave out 6 votes per match but not in the typical 3, 2, 1 format. It may be there is clearly 2 best players on the ground, but can't separate them, so it could be 2.5, 2.5, 1. I also award a maximum and minimum, from my thoughts. There are examples where there may have been 4 or 5 sharing the votes so my calculations could have been 2, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 0.5 with the minimum and maximum also being adjudicated.

Anyway at the end of it here is how my top 20 looks - I couldn't quite work out how to get my spreadsheet on here so have just gone with this. Have done total team votes also.


                                  Projected   Min   Max
Patrick Dangerfield             40   34   46
Dustin Martin                     39   34   43
Tom Mitchell                    30.5   25   35
Rory Sloane                    24.5   20   28
Josh Kelly                            23.5   17   31
Lance Franklin                   22.83   19   26
Zack Merrett                   21   15   28
Gary Ablett                            20   18   25
Marcus Bontempelli           19   15   26
Josh P Kennedy                18.08   12   26
Taylor Adams                17.33   11   25
Dayne Beams                   17   10   23
Ollie Wines                           16   10   20
Joel Selwood                15.83   12   19
Nathan Fyfe                  15.5   12   23
Marc Murphy                   15   10   22
Clayton Oliver                 14.5   5   26
Matt Crouch                 14.5   9   22
Robbie Gray                   14   11   16
Dayne Zorko                   14   10   19


A few differences in team votes to you guys.

I have Beams leading Brisbane vote.
Franklin leading Sydney
Clayton Oliver in front at Melbourne but as you have touched on before he could miss vote, note the minimum vote of 5 :/ Lots of times he may have got 0.5 or 1 vote as per my prediction but a max of 2 or 3
Ross just in front of Billings but again as above

The rest of the numbers are relatively similar.

[jvalles69]

Where's AK been, he does a fairly comprehensive count...

[RaisyDaisy]

Where's AK been, he does a fairly comprehensive count...

Pretty sure he mentioned pages back that due to work and lack of time he stopped doing his count this year

[jvalles69]

Where's AK been, he does a fairly comprehensive count...

Pretty sure he mentioned pages back that due to work and lack of time he stopped doing his count this year

Ah bummer, he was a bit stricter than me about it so would've been good to see his finished numbers.  :(

[RaisyDaisy]

Had a quick look on TAB at current odds

Absolutely zero value in both win and place markets

For me, Dusty, Titch and Kelly will be Top 3, and Sloane 4th

Quinella of Dusty/Titch at $2 and Dusty/Kelly at $4 is something I'm looking at

Dusty/Titch/Kelly trifecta at $2.50 and Dusty/Kelly/Titch at $4 I'm also getting on

Most Team Votes
Beams and Gibbs at $2.15 might be worth a bet
Ryder at $21 seems crazy, and at those odds I might throw a little bet on - he could pip Gray possibly although I'd expect Gray might just get him but at $21 it's worth a little dabble
Jack Steven at $5, Billings at $11
Umps love Sam Mitchell, and at $5 he's a chance

[madskill55]

Had a quick look on TAB at current odds

Absolutely zero value in both win and place markets

For me, Dusty, Titch and Kelly will be Top 3, and Sloane 4th

Quinella of Dusty/Titch at $2 and Dusty/Kelly at $4 is something I'm looking at

Dusty/Titch/Kelly trifecta at $2.50 and Dusty/Kelly/Titch at $4 I'm also getting on

Most Team Votes
Beams and Gibbs at $2.15 might be worth a bet
Ryder at $21 seems crazy, and at those odds I might throw a little bet on - he could pip Gray possibly although I'd expect Gray might just get him but at $21 it's worth a little dabble
Jack Steven at $5, Billings at $11
Umps love Sam Mitchell, and at $5 he's a chance

Correct me if im wrong mate but if Dusty/Kelly quinella is $4 and dusty/kelly/mitchell tri is at $4, why would u waste ur time putting money on the tri and having that 'extra variable' in t mitchell coming 3rd and loosing it to sloane or anyone else when u can just losd the quin of dusty/kelly AT THE SAME PRICE at $4? Does that make sense? It would be different if you thought it was dusty/kelly/sloane cause that tri is $17 and not the same value of $4 like the other tri/ and quin of dusty/kelly.

[RaisyDaisy]

Good pick mate, didn't even notice. It was 1:30am when I looked so that might explain it haha

[PowerBug]

Depends if you think Kelly will be 2nd or 3rd though

[GoLions]

Depends if you think Kelly will be 2nd or 3rd though

Kelly 2nd, Sloaney 3rd, Tmitch 4th

[WhatMate]

You guys take any of the handicaps? Never done that before

[jvalles69]

You guys take any of the handicaps? Never done that before

I've done handicaps in the past with very good profits, not sure about this year though as Dusty could be well ahead of the pack...depends on what numbers some of the guys get handicapped.

Haven't noticed any groups yet?