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Joel Selwood

Started by Mat0369, February 27, 2017, 07:31:53 PM

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shaker

Quote from: GCSkiwi on February 28, 2017, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 28, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on February 28, 2017, 08:42:59 AM
If I had a bunch more money, he would be the next player coming into my side. Currently have Danger, Pendles, GAJ, Fyfe and Titch as my M1-M5, and Jelwood doesn't replace any of them for me. Close to bumping GAJ perhaps. But depending how rooks pan out, I may drop a prem fwd and bring in another prem mid, which would be Jelwood.

Close to bumping Gaz it does not worry you that Gaz looks like not playing any competitive stuff before round 1 ?
Easy choice Jelwood over Gaz.   too many questions of role, % mix of time on the ball, injury history etc.    Selwood also a great fit for bye whereas GAZ will create problems if you have Swallow and SPP

I'm planning little/not at all for byes because it all turns to crap by then anyway. And no it doesn't worry me that he's not getting any competitive stuff in before round 1, or potential role change. Two years ago he was wrecked by injury, averaged 114 from 6 games. Last year, he reinjured the same shoulder and it seemed as though they hadn't fully nailed the rehab, he still averaged 114 from 14 games. I don't expect they will make the same mistake twice, and prior to those two years he's averaged 137, 129, 138, 127, 130, 140, 132. Jelwood's best ever SC year was 121, once. How confident would you be coming up with Jelwood against GAJ as a POD? And sure, maybe he'll spend more time up front, which means kicking goals ;)

I'll be worried if he's not playing, if he takes the field, he will score points. Not at all worried about that.

No doubting Gaz's scoring ability in times past but my memories of when he returned from his shoulder first time stop me from getting him one thing Gaz is not good at is injuries I'll go Selwood you go Gaz someone has to be wrong haha  ;D

crowls

Quote from: shaker on February 28, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on February 28, 2017, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2017, 07:37:26 PM
Quote from: shaker on February 28, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on February 28, 2017, 08:42:59 AM
If I had a bunch more money, he would be the next player coming into my side. Currently have Danger, Pendles, GAJ, Fyfe and Titch as my M1-M5, and Jelwood doesn't replace any of them for me. Close to bumping GAJ perhaps. But depending how rooks pan out, I may drop a prem fwd and bring in another prem mid, which would be Jelwood.

Close to bumping Gaz it does not worry you that Gaz looks like not playing any competitive stuff before round 1 ?
Easy choice Jelwood over Gaz.   too many questions of role, % mix of time on the ball, injury history etc.    Selwood also a great fit for bye whereas GAZ will create problems if you have Swallow and SPP

I'm planning little/not at all for byes because it all turns to crap by then anyway. And no it doesn't worry me that he's not getting any competitive stuff in before round 1, or potential role change. Two years ago he was wrecked by injury, averaged 114 from 6 games. Last year, he reinjured the same shoulder and it seemed as though they hadn't fully nailed the rehab, he still averaged 114 from 14 games. I don't expect they will make the same mistake twice, and prior to those two years he's averaged 137, 129, 138, 127, 130, 140, 132. Jelwood's best ever SC year was 121, once. How confident would you be coming up with Jelwood against GAJ as a POD? And sure, maybe he'll spend more time up front, which means kicking goals ;)

I'll be worried if he's not playing, if he takes the field, he will score points. Not at all worried about that.

No doubting Gaz's scoring ability in times past but my memories of when he returned from his shoulder first time stop me from getting him one thing Gaz is not good at is injuries I'll go Selwood you go Gaz someone has to be wrong haha  ;D
on top of that I seem to have the knack of having the C on GAZ/Fyfe etc in their injury game.    Double bloody whammy

GCSkiwi

Quote from: shaker on February 28, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
No doubting Gaz's scoring ability in times past but my memories of when he returned from his shoulder first time stop me from getting him one thing Gaz is not good at is injuries I'll go Selwood you go Gaz someone has to be wrong haha  ;D

To be fair, aside from the shoulder and a concussion last year he's been pretty freakin durable... And like I say, I think they know they cocked up the return from the shoulder the first time, I'd be surprised if they did it again. But I can see why people are reluctant.

Quote from: crowls on February 28, 2017, 08:30:09 PM
on top of that I seem to have the knack of having the C on GAZ/Fyfe etc in their injury game.    Double bloody whammy

Let us all know who you're picking as C each week mate, good on ya haha  ;D
But yeah, know what you mean. I thought I was the curse for Jobe in 2012 - turns out it was the juice all along :P

Holz

Only deterrent is every season people seem to be able to pick him up cheap when he has a shocker or 2/3 average weeks

Mat0369

So it turns out the cash I found from Selwood was from my D3 which I turned into Marchbank. With defense not looking as stable I need to cull a mid premium. I'm tossing up between Selwood and Hanners.

One thing I didn't really consider until now is Geelong's use of the 3rd man up. Considering their rucks aren't that good and they come up against Sandi, Goldy and Gawn in the first 3 could this hurt Selwood's average? Add in the fact they aren't supposed to pay frees for the shrug anymore and they don't play in Geelong until round 9, is this a recipe for a slow start?

I'm probably nit picking but I'm trying to decide between him and Hanners at the moment.

Torpedo10

Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 27, 2017, 10:22:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 27, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 27, 2017, 10:02:14 PM
The thing with Selwood is his high standard deviation, you can almost guarantee he'll slip in a 70 or 80 and maybe even two in a row. A straight Swallow to Selwood trade wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.

Yeah but besides Pendles and GAJ* pretty much every prem mid will put in the odd 70

Jelwood's as proven as they get, and that round 12 bye is delicious
Do you not think he could get gotten in by that point though?I reckon by round 10, JOM, Clugg or Swallow could be just full value and an upgrade to Jelwood could work perfectly. To give you an idea of how Jelly always seems to throw in loose ones early, here's his last couple of years;

2016: R8-10 (66,72,82)
2015: R4-9 (84,83,104,89,90,79)
2014: R5-7 (83, 82, 93)
2013: R5-9 (87,105,100,83,91,73)
2012: R5-10 (114, DNP, 109, 140, 110, 104)

Even that 2012 stint wasn't great with that DNP and the fact he scored 24 with a concussion in R1 and missed R2, before then he barely scraped 90 between those rounds.

So for those who say it's a myth, take a look at the numbers.
Here comes the make or break.

73 this week, on past years he will have one or two more of these 70-90s before exploding again. I want this guy in my side by Round 10.

Huttabito

SPP will now see two more growths thanks to the 97 on the weekend. Their bye comes in perfect time to grab J.Selwood to complete my MIDS (besides an upgraded Beams if trades permit).

tommy10

Quote from: Huttabito on May 01, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
SPP will now see two more growths thanks to the 97 on the weekend. Their bye comes in perfect time to grab J.Selwood to complete my MIDS (besides an upgraded Beams if trades permit).
This. Will be hoping to get Selwood and completing my mids when Port have their bye. Need to ensure enough cash to upgrade to him and Stef as I want to ensure I upgrade Witts too.

Torpedo10

Quote from: Huttabito on May 01, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
SPP will now see two more growths thanks to the 97 on the weekend. Their bye comes in perfect time to grab J.Selwood to complete my MIDS (besides an upgraded Beams if trades permit).
He is bound to throw in one or two more awkward performances, so I'm hoping to keep SPP for the byes and trade up from Butler via Balic.

Huttabito

Quote from: tommy10 on May 01, 2017, 01:04:34 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on May 01, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
SPP will now see two more growths thanks to the 97 on the weekend. Their bye comes in perfect time to grab J.Selwood to complete my MIDS (besides an upgraded Beams if trades permit).
This. Will be hoping to get Selwood and completing my mids when Port have their bye. Need to ensure enough cash to upgrade to him and Stef as I want to ensure I upgrade Witts too.
I'm hoping Witts potters along nicely until Grundy/Stef have their bye. Then will look to upgrade him then.

Mongoose528

Anyone think that opposition teams may start tagging Jelwood, like Levi Greenwood did?

It worked pretty well, seeing as Collingwood won and seeing as Dangerwood didn't have much of an influence on the game.

Rusty00

Quote from: EazyMoney on May 02, 2017, 06:44:04 PM
Anyone think that opposition teams may start tagging Jelwood, like Levi Greenwood did?

It worked pretty well, seeing as Collingwood won and seeing as Dangerwood didn't have much of an influence on the game.
They might but don't think many have a player capable of doing it as well as Greenwood.

crowls

Quote from: Rusty00 on May 02, 2017, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: EazyMoney on May 02, 2017, 06:44:04 PM
Anyone think that opposition teams may start tagging Jelwood, like Levi Greenwood did?

It worked pretty well, seeing as Collingwood won and seeing as Dangerwood didn't have much of an influence on the game.
They might but don't think many have a player capable of doing it as well as Greenwood.

Torpedo10

Apparently in doubt for Saturday according to the team announcements thread?

Huttabito

Was meant to upgrade Pepper Pig to him next week after falling in price again. He better damn well play and play bad!