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Jarrod Witts

Started by eaglesman, February 14, 2017, 01:22:55 PM

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elephants

Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: ants on March 22, 2017, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
I've put 80's because I reckon there's some improvement left and think he'll benefit from being solo ruck.
yea for the first week and then gets replaced by currie or nicholls or shares the duties with either!

Nicholls is the worst tap ruckman in the competition. When a bloke wins 9 tap outs to Gawn's 60 you know there's a serious problem.

Nicholls is garbage, Currie is the one that would threaten and I don't think either Currie nor Witts is mobile enough as a forward to carry playing both.

Until he has a terrible string of games, Witts is the man at GC.

tkringle

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 22, 2017, 12:49:06 PM
70-80, which is just as much as any other expensive rookie and that's why I've got him

At R2 with Sandilands?

I'm considering it but might want the insurance of Ryder AND Nanks in the forward line, on the chance Witts spuds and Sandi has a game off!

meow meow

Vardy will outscore him. And nobody seems to care.

Jimmykidd

lol witts at r2 is SC suicide.. just imo

Goosey

I see the reasoning behind picking him, but I can't help thinking that you get what you pay for, I won't be picking him but good luck to those who do, I hope he is servicable at minimum.

Bully

Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 22, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
lol witts at r2 is SC suicide.. just imo

It's a bit like saying picking Tim Taranto is SC suicide.

Jimmykidd

Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 22, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
lol witts at r2 is SC suicide.. just imo

It's a bit like saying picking Tim Taranto is SC suicide.

Its really not though

Goosey

Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 22, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 22, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
lol witts at r2 is SC suicide.. just imo

It's a bit like saying picking Tim Taranto is SC suicide.

Its really not though

I think it's slightly different as you only have two ruck spots and six forward spots so you have more scope to average things out.

Bully

Quote from: Goosey on March 22, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 22, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Jimmykidd on March 22, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
lol witts at r2 is SC suicide.. just imo

It's a bit like saying picking Tim Taranto is SC suicide.

Its really not though

I think it's slightly different as you only have two ruck spots and six forward spots so you have more scope to average things out.

The fact there are only two ruck spots is a key reason behind picking Witts. My first trade will be a premo ruck and I plan on getting the number 1 scorer after 6-7 rounds, whoever that may be.

Mat0369

Quote from: Goosey on March 22, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
I think it's slightly different as you only have two ruck spots and six forward spots so you have more scope to average things out.

Correct. The thing you need to do is compare the points lost from the top ruck to Witts compared to the top forward to Taranto. You need Witts to outscore Taranto by 10-20 points for it to be considered even.

Goosey

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Goosey on March 22, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
I think it's slightly different as you only have two ruck spots and six forward spots so you have more scope to average things out.

Correct. The thing you need to do is compare the points lost from the top ruck to Witts compared to the top forward to Taranto. You need Witts to outscore Taranto by 10-20 points for it to be considered even.

Each to their own though :D I think a 200K ruck will give you 200K points, good luck to you if he over-delivers  ;D

Mongoose528

For me, it's a question between Goldy + Taranto v Witts + Macrae + 60k

I think they will score similar so I went for Witts + Macrae as I get an extra 60k.

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Goosey on March 22, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
I think it's slightly different as you only have two ruck spots and six forward spots so you have more scope to average things out.

Correct. The thing you need to do is compare the points lost from the top ruck to Witts compared to the top forward to Taranto. You need Witts to outscore Taranto by 10-20 points for it to be considered even.

That's completely false. I have Higgins, Ryder & Witts. A lot of others have Goldy, WHE & Taranto. So it's 90 + 90 + 75 versus 110 + 75 + 75. I'd also like to think I have saved a trade. Then there's the forward loophole option I will have for 6 rounds.

Goosey

Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Goosey on March 22, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
I think it's slightly different as you only have two ruck spots and six forward spots so you have more scope to average things out.

Correct. The thing you need to do is compare the points lost from the top ruck to Witts compared to the top forward to Taranto. You need Witts to outscore Taranto by 10-20 points for it to be considered even.

That's completely false. I have Higgins, Ryder & Witts. A lot of others have Goldy, WHE & Taranto. So it's 90 + 90 + 75 versus 110 + 75 + 75. I'd also like to think I have saved a trade. Then there's the forward loophole option I will have for 6 rounds.

My point is I would definitely consider Witts at 200K if I had 6 ruck spots to fill...but with only two Ruck spots I can't find a spot for him?

Mat0369

Quote from: Bully on March 22, 2017, 10:26:02 PM
That's completely false. I have Higgins, Ryder & Witts. A lot of others have Goldy, WHE & Taranto. So it's 90 + 90 + 75 versus 110 + 75 + 75. I'd also like to think I have saved a trade. Then there's the forward loophole option I will have for 6 rounds.

The top ruck averages close to 120 points per season, the top forward averages close to 100 points per season. The second best ruck scores around 108, the next best 5 forwards are all under 100 using last year as the measuring stick. So you need to compare your bottom ruck to the 2nd best ruck while you can compare your bottom forward to F2-10 from other sides. The fact is you if you think Taranto will average 70, it means he is 20 points away from the F2-F10. Witts needs to average 20 points less then the next best ruck to make it comparable. So you need Witts to average 88 to make up the lost points at the R2 position.