O'Meara

[RaisyDaisy]

LS I've noticed a lot of your advice recently around holding, people are overreacting etc

If you're playing for leagues then holding is an option, but a lot of us are pushing for overall rank so keeping JOM is not a good decision

I picked JOM because there were flower all rookies to start, not because I expected him to go 100+. Yeah I thought 80+ most weeks would happen and coupled with his JS selected him

His scoring like a spud and there are now more options to field

The longer you hold him (and others similar under performers) the further you fall back. Only true proven elite premos eg Hanners are the guys you stick it out with.

[Torpedo10]

LS I've noticed a lot of your advice recently around holding, people are overreacting etc

If you're playing for leagues then holding is an option, but a lot of us are pushing for overall rank so keeping JOM is not a good decision

I picked JOM because there were flower all rookies to start, not because I expected him to go 100+. Yeah I thought 80+ most weeks would happen and coupled with his JS selected him

His scoring like a spud and there are now more options to field

The longer you hold him (and others similar under performers) the further you fall back. Only true proven elite premos eg Hanners are the guys you stick it out with.

Hit the nail on the head there RD.

Even Goldy, who is in an obviously changed position is looking at the chopping block for me.

[LordSneeze]

LS I've noticed a lot of your advice recently around holding, people are overreacting etc

If you're playing for leagues then holding is an option, but a lot of us are pushing for overall rank so keeping JOM is not a good decision

I picked JOM because there were flower all rookies to start, not because I expected him to go 100+. Yeah I thought 80+ most weeks would happen and coupled with his JS selected him

His scoring like a spud and there are now more options to field

The longer you hold him (and others similar under performers) the further you fall back. Only true proven elite premos eg Hanners are the guys you stick it out with.

Yeah most of it has been recently, but that's because I actually feel that is the case.
For those right at the pointy end I can seen the value in it. But anyone that is already off the mark looks like it is more of a chasing points situation IMO.

I agree 80+ was what I expected which would have given a nice cash boost and stepping stone option, i still feel that is not out of the questions though.

If you can get a premium in with 1 trade then I can defiantly see the value in it, but you need to be pretty confident the player you bring in will be a premium.

Really most of it comes down to how much you value the trade vs the points. Each to their own.

[fasttrack13]

O'meara BE 58 - Even though he's scoring bad, coul hit it easily.

My suggestions for those with him would be:
1) To wait a week to see if hanners can back up with another 100, especially with a breakeaven of 144, then you could hopefully milk 10k out of jaeger whilst hanners drops another 15-20.
2) Go to M.Murphy, Heppell or someone along those lines
3) Downgrade to Broomhead us cash for Otten upgrade in the coming weeks

[RaisyDaisy]

LS I've noticed a lot of your advice recently around holding, people are overreacting etc

If you're playing for leagues then holding is an option, but a lot of us are pushing for overall rank so keeping JOM is not a good decision

I picked JOM because there were flower all rookies to start, not because I expected him to go 100+. Yeah I thought 80+ most weeks would happen and coupled with his JS selected him

His scoring like a spud and there are now more options to field

The longer you hold him (and others similar under performers) the further you fall back. Only true proven elite premos eg Hanners are the guys you stick it out with.

Yeah most of it has been recently, but that's because I actually feel that is the case.
For those right at the pointy end I can seen the value in it. But anyone that is already off the mark looks like it is more of a chasing points situation IMO.

I agree 80+ was what I expected which would have given a nice cash boost and stepping stone option, i still feel that is not out of the questions though.

If you can get a premium in with 1 trade then I can defiantly see the value in it, but you need to be pretty confident the player you bring in will be a premium.

Really most of it comes down to how much you value the trade vs the points. Each to their own.

Yep fair play

I definitely wouldn't be using two trades to move him on, and I can see value in holding him still but when guys like Touk and even Lloyd are people I can personally get in one trade, I think it's the right move

[Hazza09]

O'meara BE 58 - Even though he's scoring bad, coul hit it easily.

My suggestions for those with him would be:
1) To wait a week to see if hanners can back up with another 100, especially with a breakeaven of 144, then you could hopefully milk 10k out of jaeger whilst hanners drops another 15-20.
2) Go to M.Murphy, Heppell or someone along those lines
3) Downgrade to Broomhead us cash for Otten upgrade in the coming weeks

Well option 1 is the way i was thinking.... in my opinion if you bring in Murphy he will have to be a Top 8/9 midfielder. Is Murphy going to be a Top 8 or 9 midfielder this season? Possibly, but with 4 or 5 spots already taken in my midfield, and no Martin or Bont yet, Hanners or Dusty/Bont would be more ideal than Murphy.

I don't know if JOM will even reach his B/E this week, but you would think he would play better than yesterday.

Going JOM - Swallow is a option and thats what i am considering if i can, but I would prefer to go Taranto - Swallow and wait another week on JOM and assess from there.

Either way its a tough one

[Ringo]

LS I've noticed a lot of your advice recently around holding, people are overreacting etc

If you're playing for leagues then holding is an option, but a lot of us are pushing for overall rank so keeping JOM is not a good decision

I picked JOM because there were flower all rookies to start, not because I expected him to go 100+. Yeah I thought 80+ most weeks would happen and coupled with his JS selected him

His scoring like a spud and there are now more options to field

The longer you hold him (and others similar under performers) the further you fall back. Only true proven elite premos eg Hanners are the guys you stick it out with.

Yeah most of it has been recently, but that's because I actually feel that is the case.
For those right at the pointy end I can seen the value in it. But anyone that is already off the mark looks like it is more of a chasing points situation IMO.

I agree 80+ was what I expected which would have given a nice cash boost and stepping stone option, i still feel that is not out of the questions though.

If you can get a premium in with 1 trade then I can defiantly see the value in it, but you need to be pretty confident the player you bring in will be a premium.

Really most of it comes down to how much you value the trade vs the points. Each to their own.

Yep fair play

I definitely wouldn't be using two trades to move him on, and I can see value in holding him still but when guys like Touk and even Lloyd are people I can personally get in one trade, I think it's the right move

Fair enough if you have a bank of 130k to go O'Meara to Miller with one trade.

Personally giving O'Meara another week for 2 reasons
1) Surely Hawks will not play that badly again unless something is seriously wrong internally. Think they will do a Suns and turn it around at home against the Cats.
2) You see very few players really score really well against former teams.

Only concern I have was that O'Meara seemed to be playing mainly HF yesterday and that will effect scoring into the future if maintained,

[Hawka]

LS I've noticed a lot of your advice recently around holding, people are overreacting etc

If you're playing for leagues then holding is an option, but a lot of us are pushing for overall rank so keeping JOM is not a good decision

I picked JOM because there were flower all rookies to start, not because I expected him to go 100+. Yeah I thought 80+ most weeks would happen and coupled with his JS selected him

His scoring like a spud and there are now more options to field

The longer you hold him (and others similar under performers) the further you fall back. Only true proven elite premos eg Hanners are the guys you stick it out with.

Yeah most of it has been recently, but that's because I actually feel that is the case.
For those right at the pointy end I can seen the value in it. But anyone that is already off the mark looks like it is more of a chasing points situation IMO.

I agree 80+ was what I expected which would have given a nice cash boost and stepping stone option, i still feel that is not out of the questions though.

If you can get a premium in with 1 trade then I can defiantly see the value in it, but you need to be pretty confident the player you bring in will be a premium.

Really most of it comes down to how much you value the trade vs the points. Each to their own.

Yep fair play

I definitely wouldn't be using two trades to move him on, and I can see value in holding him still but when guys like Touk and even Lloyd are people I can personally get in one trade, I think it's the right move

Fair enough if you have a bank of 130k to go O'Meara to Miller with one trade.

Personally giving O'Meara another week for 2 reasons
1) Surely Hawks will not play that badly again unless something is seriously wrong internally. Think they will do a Suns and turn it around at home against the Cats.
2) You see very few players really score really well against former teams.

Only concern I have was that O'Meara seemed to be playing mainly HF yesterday and that will effect scoring into the future if maintained,

I honestly have no idea why he was pushed up forward so much, down in the clearances and contested ball, he only really seem to have extended stints in the midfield when the game was over.

[GCSkiwi]

Fair enough if you have a bank of 130k to go O'Meara to Miller with one trade.

Personally giving O'Meara another week for 2 reasons
1) Surely Hawks will not play that badly again unless something is seriously wrong internally. Think they will do a Suns and turn it around at home against the Cats.
2) You see very few players really score really well against former teams.

Only concern I have was that O'Meara seemed to be playing mainly HF yesterday and that will effect scoring into the future if maintained,

I will also be holding for the moment, though I'm concerned that his DE has been poor in all 3 games, 60ish in 1 and 2 and then  42 vs Suns. That and playing up forward both worry me. I think he stays for now but I have cash in the ban after going Goldy to Witts last week so he's on short notice...

[Money Shot]

I don't think Hawthorn will lose by 90 points each week and therefore there should be more points to go around to O'meara.

O'mearas break even is 58 and if he scores 100 or so (which isn't that big an ask) he will be right to make money again.

This is probably his make or break week for me as I'm annoyed of having SPP on the bench outscoring him.

[smashbox]

I like Omera to Swallow it's a bit sideways but if going for overall, I think I need that mid pricer who can go 90+, rather than another rookie

swallow is playing predominantly midfield and has come back playing some great footy. He can win the contested ball but most importantly he has great disposal efficiency.

He's locked in for me.

[King_Robbo]

No reason to trade. Has looked solid in his first two games and like most hawks yesterday, played crap. It happens.
I will be holding him up until his bye or at least until I can trade him to a fallen premo (looking at you Hanners).

[StuL]

A ton or close to it this weekend or he's out. Will become Hanners when he bottoms out.

[Mongoose528]

Wanted to hear your thoughts on this topic.

[RaisyDaisy]

Plenty of chat about this in the JOM thread already

Gone for me.