2017 British XV Rule Changes and Discussion

[Ringo]

One rule change we will have to look at is the delistings with uf not allowing a comp without full teams.

We still have a few teams to vote before Saturday night and whilst some voting is clear cut one vote is very tight so it is important for the Dragons, Hawks, Giants, Magic and Hoods to complete votes.  If you have sent please resend as I did not receive them.

With the vote for HGA to be allowed we need to firm up on what we will use as there were some additional comments. Please feel free to comment in this thread on these two proposals>
1) To use the lowest onfield score from the HGA
2) To use 3% of the Total Score as HGA.

Will send out additional vote next week.

[Ringo]

Votes to be decided
1) Process for Delisting


Votes in Progress



Completed votes and Results
1) Teams to be lodged in Weekly Team Lodgement Thread Voting
2) Keep and substitutes allow in like positions with less than 20% time on ground Voting
3) ) Partial lockout for Thursday games with full lock out at first bounce of Friday game. Players involved  Captains and vIce-captains locked and no loopholing of emergencies. Full teams to be lodged in FF thread by bounce of Friday Night game. If full teams not lodged UF team will be taken as correct.
4) HGA to apply with lowest score of home team being the HGA
5) Rivalry Round to be had as Rd 7 Voting
6) Lowest score on field to be applied
7) 3d offence for not lodging teams  - No bonus points to be applied C,VC or Hga

[Ringo]

With the voting now in some discussion needed on 2 matters.

1) Do we apply a penalty for not lodging teams in the thread and if so what penalty should we impose.

My thoughts are first oversight no penalty, 2nd and subsequent non lodgements a 50 points penalty but open to discussion prior to voting.

2) There was some discussion with returned votes as to what should be the HGA.
Should it be the lowest score of home team which could be in excess of 100 at times.
3% of Total score,

Feel free to discuss further and then we will vote.

[LF]

Could always  just make HGA something like 50 or whatever instead of using players scores or a % of the total score

[Nige]

Definitely should be some kind of penalty for not lodging the team in the thread otherwise it defeats the purpose of having the rule to begin with.

The % rule is unique to AXVs and I don't really think we should be copying them, but I'm not opposed to a different method than doubling the lowest score, I just don't have a suggestion.

[GoLions]

Definitely should be some kind of penalty for not lodging the team in the thread otherwise it defeats the purpose of having the rule to begin with.

The % rule is unique to AXVs and I don't really think we should be copying them, but I'm not opposed to a different method than doubling the lowest score, I just don't have a suggestion.

Yeah, obviously need a penalty for not naming your team.

You could also say that the first comp to use lowest score as HGA was originally unique, but was then adopted by other comps though Nigey :P
I like the 3% rule, considering that BXVs is a higher scoring comp, much like AXV. But happy to hear other suggestions. Not a fan of a set HGA of x amount of points though.

[Ringo]

Throwing something else into the mix just because I can. How about 25% of your highest scoring player gross score eg excludes any bonus.
Failure to name team in thread after 1st indiscretion no Captains bonus.

[GoLions]

For failure to name your team, maybe something like:

1st offence - warning
2nd offence - no captain
3rd offence - no captain + forfeit premiership points (so points for and against still apply, but other team gets 4 points regardless of the outcome)

[GoLions]

For the delistings process, perhaps keep it same as before, but with one minor change. After the AFL rookie draft has concluded, any BXV teams with a player on their list that is not on an AFL list will receive a supplementary draft pick, similar to what we're doing atm. So we still keep that element of risk that I enjoy when taking a punt on a delisted player in the hope that they get picked up in the rookie. If you have a rookie pick that you are not using, you don't get to use that to replace your delisted player. Must be replaced after everyone else has used their given rookie picks.

[nas]

For the delistings process, perhaps keep it same as before, but with one minor change. After the AFL rookie draft has concluded, any BXV teams with a player on their list that is not on an AFL list will receive a supplementary draft pick, similar to what we're doing atm. So we still keep that element of risk that I enjoy when taking a punt on a delisted player in the hope that they get picked up in the rookie. If you have a rookie pick that you are not using, you don't get to use that to replace your delisted player. Must be replaced after everyone else has used their given rookie picks.

Yep, & seeing as we now know, we can run it sooner, rather than later.

[nas]

For failure to name your team, maybe something like:

1st offence - warning
2nd offence - no captain
3rd offence - no captain + forfeit premiership points (so points for and against still apply, but other team gets 4 points regardless of the outcome)

Agree with 1 & 2, but 3, could we do the loss of all other bonus points that are applicable?

[GoLions]

For failure to name your team, maybe something like:

1st offence - warning
2nd offence - no captain
3rd offence - no captain + forfeit premiership points (so points for and against still apply, but other team gets 4 points regardless of the outcome)

Agree with 1 & 2, but 3, could we do the loss of all other bonus points that are applicable?

I originally didn't include loss of HGA, as you don't have HGA every week, but not really fussed with that.

[nas]

For failure to name your team, maybe something like:

1st offence - warning
2nd offence - no captain
3rd offence - no captain + forfeit premiership points (so points for and against still apply, but other team gets 4 points regardless of the outcome)

Agree with 1 & 2, but 3, could we do the loss of all other bonus points that are applicable?

I originally didn't include loss of HGA, as you don't have HGA every week, but not really fussed with that.

Does that include options of VC points & if applicable evc?

[GoLions]

For failure to name your team, maybe something like:

1st offence - warning
2nd offence - no captain
3rd offence - no captain + forfeit premiership points (so points for and against still apply, but other team gets 4 points regardless of the outcome)

Agree with 1 & 2, but 3, could we do the loss of all other bonus points that are applicable?

I originally didn't include loss of HGA, as you don't have HGA every week, but not really fussed with that.

Does that include options of VC points & if applicable evc?

Yeah, whoever gets their score doubled as C, so whether that be your C, VC, or EVC :)

[iZander]

For failure to name your team, maybe something like:

1st offence - warning
2nd offence - no captain
3rd offence - no captain + forfeit premiership points (so points for and against still apply, but other team gets 4 points regardless of the outcome)

Agree with 1 & 2, but 3, could we do the loss of all other bonus points that are applicable?

I originally didn't include loss of HGA, as you don't have HGA every week, but not really fussed with that.

Does that include options of VC points & if applicable evc?

Yeah, whoever gets their score doubled as C, so whether that be your C, VC, or EVC :)

is it possible to make the 3rd offence just a loss of points (like a loss of 2 or 4 points) and then the match up still apply for that week, as it would be a bit boring playing someone who didnt name there team otherwise.

(unless i misunderstood the above)