Intra Club Matches

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_wato

I think Petrie backs him up tbh. He'll be most effective up forward over those other two.

Gigantor

Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 02:25:18 PM
I think Petrie backs him up tbh. He'll be most effective up forward over those other two.

Yeah I can't see Giles backing up Lycett if Petrie or Vardy are fit and firing

Holz

Quote from: sammy123 on February 16, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
I think with HH they're trying to give him more of a +1 role than they did last year. Actually get the ball in his hands way more often than they managed previously. Another 2/3 marks and kicks and he's closing in on a 95 average, quite enticing tbh

The appeal with Lycett? Maybe the fact that Naitanui who he's played second fiddle to all his career is out all year and the number one ruck mantle is his to lose? Pretty obvious the appeal man. If he plays ruck 1 he will score well. Last year had 16/21 scores over 70, 11 scores over 90, 8 tons playing 80% forward 20% ruck. Imagine the opposite. He's 202cm too, he ain't no dwarf.

good point

Isnt NN predicted to be healthy round 16?

What do you do if say he comes back round 18 and lycett drops back down?

Could say trade him out but then your burning a trade which is pretty much the same as burning one if a ruck gets injured.

Thats why im going gawn goldy as i expect 22 games. Worse case i can bring in a ryder lobbe or whoever if an i jury occurs.

Gigantor

Quote from: Holz on February 16, 2017, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on February 16, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
I think with HH they're trying to give him more of a +1 role than they did last year. Actually get the ball in his hands way more often than they managed previously. Another 2/3 marks and kicks and he's closing in on a 95 average, quite enticing tbh

The appeal with Lycett? Maybe the fact that Naitanui who he's played second fiddle to all his career is out all year and the number one ruck mantle is his to lose? Pretty obvious the appeal man. If he plays ruck 1 he will score well. Last year had 16/21 scores over 70, 11 scores over 90, 8 tons playing 80% forward 20% ruck. Imagine the opposite. He's 202cm too, he ain't no dwarf.

good point

Isnt NN predicted to be healthy round 16?

What do you do if say he comes back round 18 and lycett drops back down?

Could say trade him out but then your burning a trade which is pretty much the same as burning one if a ruck gets injured.

Thats why im going gawn goldy as i expect 22 games. Worse case i can bring in a ryder lobbe or whoever if an i jury occurs.

He did ton up 5 times last year with NicNat in the team, so thats not and issue imo
Plus the latest news is NicNat is looking less likely for a return this year

elephants

Quote from: Holz on February 16, 2017, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on February 16, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
I think with HH they're trying to give him more of a +1 role than they did last year. Actually get the ball in his hands way more often than they managed previously. Another 2/3 marks and kicks and he's closing in on a 95 average, quite enticing tbh

The appeal with Lycett? Maybe the fact that Naitanui who he's played second fiddle to all his career is out all year and the number one ruck mantle is his to lose? Pretty obvious the appeal man. If he plays ruck 1 he will score well. Last year had 16/21 scores over 70, 11 scores over 90, 8 tons playing 80% forward 20% ruck. Imagine the opposite. He's 202cm too, he ain't no dwarf.

good point

Isnt NN predicted to be healthy round 16?

What do you do if say he comes back round 18 and lycett drops back down?

Could say trade him out but then your burning a trade which is pretty much the same as burning one if a ruck gets injured.

Thats why im going gawn goldy as i expect 22 games. Worse case i can bring in a ryder lobbe or whoever if an i jury occurs.

Looks like we'll take it easy with Nic and give him the year off.

I expect Lycett to average 85-90, can be inconsistent though!

_wato

Ele & RD I'll ask you as Eagles men, he averaged 83 last year, and had some absolute stinkers, surely being first choice ruck the stinkers (he scored 8 one game) will always be there however the difference would be he doesn't go sub 60 very often don't you think? And with him playing as first choice ruck and him being fairly mobile meaning he gets around the ground well, he could up that average somewhat to a 95? Or do you see him staying right where he is.

_wato

From what i can read when he played sole ruck last year without NN he scored

100, 90, 93, 118, 76 with two of those scores against Goldy and Gawn. Pretty impressive numbers from a F3 who provides ruck security.

And in 2015 he was a late in for Nat and scored 123.

Rusty00

Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
From what i can read when he played sole ruck last year without NN he scored

100, 90, 93, 118, 76 with two of those scores against Goldy and Gawn. Pretty impressive numbers from a F3 who provides ruck security.

And in 2015 he was a late in for Nat and scored 123.
He also scored 118 in the game against the Hawks where NicNat did his knee. However the following 2 weeks he scored 49 and 81, with Giles in the team, suggesting if Giles is named, steer clear.

_wato

Quote from: Rusty00 on February 16, 2017, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
From what i can read when he played sole ruck last year without NN he scored

100, 90, 93, 118, 76 with two of those scores against Goldy and Gawn. Pretty impressive numbers from a F3 who provides ruck security.

And in 2015 he was a late in for Nat and scored 123.
He also scored 118 in the game against the Hawks where NicNat did his knee. However the following 2 weeks he scored 49 and 81, with Giles in the team, suggesting if Giles is named, steer clear.

Yep depends on Giles. I feel like they had no other choice but to play Giles. They now have Petrie/Vardy who can fill that void.

RaisyDaisy

I think Lycett would average 95 if he was the sole ruck

We don't play with a sole ruck though, and always have someone else to ruck 30-40% of the game, meaning Lycett rests forward

I think he will average 90ish, which is frustrating because it's not good enough for Top 6, but it's still pretty decent for F6 who is providing ruck cover I guess

I dunno, it's doing my head in because I'm not loving either Lycett or Ryder atm, but I need ruck cover


Holz

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Quote from: elephants on February 16, 2017, 03:01:43 PM
Quote from: Holz on February 16, 2017, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on February 16, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 16, 2017, 02:15:55 PM
I think with HH they're trying to give him more of a +1 role than they did last year. Actually get the ball in his hands way more often than they managed previously. Another 2/3 marks and kicks and he's closing in on a 95 average, quite enticing tbh

The appeal with Lycett? Maybe the fact that Naitanui who he's played second fiddle to all his career is out all year and the number one ruck mantle is his to lose? Pretty obvious the appeal man. If he plays ruck 1 he will score well. Last year had 16/21 scores over 70, 11 scores over 90, 8 tons playing 80% forward 20% ruck. Imagine the opposite. He's 202cm too, he ain't no dwarf.

good point

Isnt NN predicted to be healthy round 16?

What do you do if say he comes back round 18 and lycett drops back down?

Could say trade him out but then your burning a trade which is pretty much the same as burning one if a ruck gets injured.

Thats why im going gawn goldy as i expect 22 games. Worse case i can bring in a ryder lobbe or whoever if an i jury occurs.

Looks like we'll take it easy with Nic and give him the year off.

I expect Lycett to average 85-90, can be inconsistent though!

Even if your looking likely to make finals?

If i had a fit NN was likely to make finals i would want to get him games to make an impact on finals.


“It will depend how the boys are going as well. If we're playing finals and we're going really well, I'll definitely want to be a part of it.” NN

eaglesman

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 16, 2017, 02:21:38 PM
I was thinking about Wingard, and those comments have me even more interested, although I just can't see how I fit him in

Lycett can push 90-95 IMO

You need to remember that one of Giles/Petrie/Vardy will be backing him up, just like Trengove and Ryder will be

Honestly, I think Lycett and Ryder will average the same more or less. I don't really love either of them tbh, but I feel like I need a R/F in my forward line for cover because I really don't want to be burning a trade when one of my starting rucks misses a week or two

HH has been in my side since SC opened. I think he can go 90+. Won't be a Top 6 def, but won't be too far off and will be good for D6. His price of 423k, saving me 100k on the other prem def's is very handy to use elsehwere

Time will tell. But personally I don't want to see Giles in the side backing him up. Giles is either number one early or not picked at all. I don't rate him at all as a forward.
If lycett is fit for round 1 and I'm pretty sure he would be then surely the backup will be vardy/Petrie. And I don't believe the ruck split will be substantial at all. Lycett will do a great majority of ruck time.

Lycett appeal is real for mine.


_wato

Yep couldn't agree more with you eagles ^

TomK

Still comfortable with Ryder for now, averaged 85 in 2015 while playing more forward than ruck with Lobbe in the team. If he is rucking with Trengove, Ryder will have the majority of the time in the ruck, they'd be stupid to make them have a 50/50 split (it is Port though :P). Ryder is far superior and Trengove should just be pinch-hitting, hopefully becomes more clearer in the JLT though.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: TomK on February 16, 2017, 07:44:54 PM
Still comfortable with Ryder for now, averaged 85 in 2015 while playing more forward than ruck with Lobbe in the team. If he is rucking with Trengove, Ryder will have the majority of the time in the ruck, they'd be stupid to make them have a 50/50 split (it is Port though :P). Ryder is far superior and Trengove should just be pinch-hitting, hopefully becomes more clearer in the JLT though.

The concern for me is that Trengove won't be great as a forward, so perhaps Ryder will spend more time there, and if he does then I can't see him pushing 95+