Bully's Boys 2017

Started by Bully, January 26, 2017, 05:19:24 PM

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Bully

Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 05, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
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Nice team right across the board and should score well from day 1. Just a little curious about where your cash generation will be coming from ??    Cheers and best of luck mate.               ;)

I have a feeling this year will be tougher than most when it comes to cash generation. The midfield used to be the money maker but I just don't see too many options on the horizon. Graham for the Tiges is one who will come in, Myers another certainty, perhaps Poholke and Zac Fisher.

But bear in mind there are many ways to skin a cat. By picking players like Murphy, O'Meara & Swallow, sideways trading to fallen premos is a distinct possibility. I've deliberately avoided players like Selwood & Bont because they are high standard deviation types. Selwood routinely drops to 500k every year and I plan on capitalising when that moment arises.

The same goes for the forward line, particularly given most teams will need to take a look at the KP forwards like JJK, Riewoldt (x2), Lynch & Buddy.


pietime

I totally agree with your midfield assessment Bully. I have done almost the same thing but have Watson instead of Rocky. Plenty of options in midfield bench to make money on top of the bottom 4 mids on the ground who will rise in $$$$. Plenty of options in backline and some in fwd line to really cash in. I feel there will be plenty of sides looking the same by rd 1

eaglesman

Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 05, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
:)

Nice team right across the board and should score well from day 1. Just a little curious about where your cash generation will be coming from ??    Cheers and best of luck mate.               ;)

Where is every teams cash generation coming from is my question?

pietime

Still plenty of nuggets to be found at prices $160k and below. Don't think it's a concern at all. I count 8-10 in my side that should play enough early games to cash out. The mids will take care of themselves - Plenty of side trading if need be when Prems drop price like they tend to do.

Bully



Haven't committed to this formation but I'm considering it. The theory would be to wait until Gawn drops 100k and then swing Nank back to the forward line. This is a much riskier team with Murphy & Heeney in there but I'm guessing the 2017 winner will need to put their balls on the line to some degree.

crowls

Ballsy team Bully.     mid price madness,  hope it pays off mate

Bully

Quote from: crowls on March 06, 2017, 12:29:44 AM
Ballsy team Bully.     mid price madness,  hope it pays off mate

I've decided against it, think this is a better formation. F6 is still vulnerable but hopefully Parfitt gets the job done with a 60 average. It basically comes down to Shaw & Schoenmakers versus Franklin & Marchbank.


Bully



Ok, we're almost locked and loaded and the two big issues as I see are the rucks and the forward rookies. I can categorically state I will not pick Goldy or Gawn while Preuss & Spencer are in the side. So it then becomes a question of playing Nank at F2 and picking Taranto or playing Witts at F2 and Nank in the forward line. At this stage I'm liking Witts' job security just a bit more and also feel his upside is better. Also by picking the more expensive player means a correction trade will be smooth sailing.

Whilst this formation looks a bit unconventional I'm happy enough with the scoring potential. Loading the forward line is largely due to the lack of rookies. The back rookies look good and with Otten playing well again I'm happy with the scoring potential. Still a couple of scores to be settled Joey vs Laird vs Adams & Bont vs Rocky. This may also depend on rookie prices.

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2017, 07:22:59 PM


Ok, we're almost locked and loaded and the two big issues as I see are the rucks and the forward rookies. I can categorically state I will not pick Goldy or Gawn while Preuss & Spencer are in the side. So it then becomes a question of playing Nank at F2 and picking Taranto or playing Witts at F2 and Nank in the forward line. At this stage I'm liking Witts' job security just a bit more and also feel his upside is better. Also by picking the more expensive player means a correction trade will be smooth sailing.

Whilst this formation looks a bit unconventional I'm happy enough with the scoring potential. Loading the forward line is largely due to the lack of rookies. The back rookies look good and with Otten playing well again I'm happy with the scoring potential. Still a couple of scores to be settled Joey vs Laird vs Adams & Bont vs Rocky. This may also depend on rookie prices.

I look forward to being ranked almost identical for round 1 and then seeing who trades better haha. This will work.

Bully

Just looking at the draw I'm quietly confident he can produce some decent scores.

vs Ess (Bellchambers, Leuy) HS - 70
vs Freo (Sandilands) HS - 82
vs Carl (Kreuzer) HS - 135
vs Bris (Martin) HS - 70
vs North (Goldy) HS - 73
vs Geel (Smith) HS - 97 *was against Smith when playing for GC


eaglesman

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Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2017, 08:50:48 PM
Just looking at the draw I'm quietly confident he can produce some decent scores.

vs Ess (Bellchambers, Leuy) HS - 70
vs Freo (Sandilands) HS - 82
vs Carl (Kreuzer) HS - 135
vs Bris (Martin) HS - 70
vs North (Goldy) HS - 73
vs Geel (Smith) HS - 97 *was against Smith when playing for GC
Legit I think you should stop justifying it so we don't wake up other people. I rate about 6/7 people's opinion in this forum yourself included so i assume others on here would feel the same with regards your views. I must of posted the nankwittylands in the rucks thread mid way through witts 2nd quarter on Thursday. Go with ya gut.

Bully

Just slight correction on Witts opponents (was looking at wrong fixture but the numbers still stack up)

vs Bris  (70)
vs GWS (116)
vs Haw  (81)
vs Carl (135)
vs Adel (88)
vs North (73)
vs Geel (97)

When looking at other rookies around the 200k mark I have to say the only player capable of churning out similar numbers would be Marchbank and most would have penciled him in. Don't think Taranto has the same ceiling but as a fallback option he's fine. So if by round 8 Witts can get 5 price rises at a 75 average he'll be 323k, that's a reasonable return and trading to a Goldy or Gawn should only involve another 200k or so.

It's worth noting that both Gawn & Goldy are high standard deviation players. Gawn's worst run last year involved a 49 & 63 in rounds 8 & 9. Goldy had a 49 in round 6 and 3 consecutive sub 100 scores late in the season.

Of course there's a chance that these guys go bang from the outset but that's obviously the risk one takes with such a strategy.


Bully

And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.

vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)

Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.

uncleswagy

Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.

vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)

Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.

Wont be nic nat or lycett for the eagles round 1, if they actually do play petrie as a ruck (im still in shock that this is a thing) Goldy could legitimately go 200 plus round 1

But your right his price will drop, not sure if anyone here picked up the jock reynolds mag but they do point out that every player over 550k drops in price at some point pre bye, by an average of 89k by round 9..

shaker

Quote from: Bully on March 12, 2017, 01:23:11 AM
And here's Goldy's 2016 scores stacked up against this year's fixture.

vs West Coast (110)
vs Geelong (83)
vs GWS (99)
vs Bulldogs (49 & 127)
vs Freo (121) ** against Sandi (44 & 116)
vs GC (125) ** against Witts (134)
vs Adelaide (126, 99, 124)
vs Sydney (82 & 112)

Solid numbers but not scarily good that he becomes financially unobtainable. My instincts tell me he'll hit 520k at some point prior to the bye.

That's all good but that is the past he might go worse or he might go better no one knows how he will go or if his price will rise or fall that it is all just hearsay  ;)