Money Shot 2017

[Money Shot]

As Brisbane supporter MS not a 100% certain the McCluggage will start Rd 1. hard to break into a midfield of Rocky, Beams, Matthieson, Zorko, Robbo, Rich, Keays. Depends on Fagan as to how he uses Rich and who replaces Hanley.  Liam Dawson also waiting in the wings.

Thanks for the info Ringo. If worst comes to worst I can downgrade Sloane to Swallow and I'll have some money to spare.

[Money Shot]

All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks

I think that McCluggage and McGrath don't really count as they are clearly best 22.

So it's only 5 each line and I think that both defence and forwards will have a plethora rookies so I'm confident.

They are still newbies so don't bet on it every year people include all the sure things saying they will play round 1 and every year it never happens , a few will play most won't  ;)

Good point ;) but there's always a few things that pop up out of the blue ;)

[shaker]

All good on paper but the chance of 8 cheapies playing in your fwd's and backs every week and scoring good well that will kill your loaded mids and gun rucks

I think that McCluggage and McGrath don't really count as they are clearly best 22.

So it's only 5 each line and I think that both defence and forwards will have a plethora rookies so I'm confident.

They are still newbies so don't bet on it every year people include all the sure things saying they will play round 1 and every year it never happens , a few will play most won't  ;)

Good point ;) but there's always a few things that pop up out of the blue ;)

Yep and it is still a long way out so it does not hurt to play around a bit but I find I am usually doing half my team after the squads are out for round 1  :P

[Sabretooth Tigers]

 :)

Love it MS. And most teams will be fielding 9 to 12 rookies in Rd.1  anyway who they'll need to play week in or week out. So everybody's team will be reliant on rookie selection. Disagree on two of your mids but love the team and structure overall. cheers and good luck mate.              ;)

[Hippo]

While i think this backline structure can work this yr, i don't think it can work across 2 lines in the one team. Without going into to deep, there appears to be enough back rookies at this stage to survive this. With the lack of back mid pricers that are worthing or underpriced premiums, its the place to do this, this yr.... at this stage.

i think its a mistake to take all your chances with all those fwd rookies over taking your chance with underpriced premiums coming back (this includes the other lines bar backs). If a previously injured gun coming back from injury has a full pre season, then he is a cheap fit underpriced gun.

there is just no way in hell your fwd rookie avg score predictions will work out they way. Just a couple of quick examples, Luggage is said to move like Pendles, but Pendles avg under 60 in his first yr albeit 9 games, who's to say Luggage is going to play every game, and the kid plays for arguably the worst team in the AFL. Weltering avg under 70. Hell Selwood only avg 77 in his first yr playing midfield.
You have predicted every one of your fwd rookies to avg 65+, just won't happen. You could deal with 60's from your backs but no way you can compete with under 60's from your fwd as well (again because your not going to get 65-70 from the). Bolton, Black, Picket all scream Impy first yr scores... 50's.

For me you need to make up for that with players like Heeney/Ryder/Roughy who should all go over 85.

By locking in all those fully priced mids your not leaving any room to trade in any fallen prem that we get every yr ala Selwood, Priddis etc etc from yrs gone by.

While you play all those rookies there is every chance the guy who starts a Heeny, Swallow, Sandi, Roughy get a avg of 90 for the first 8 rounds, and gets way ahead. By the time your trying to upgrade from 50-60avg rookies your too far behind.

Its funny that you hope everyone picks Keeffe, i see him as guaranteed 65 avg, where all those fwd rookies i do not.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the prems you have picked, but looking at allot of teams, there will be quite a few that get these cheap guns right while your getting allot of 60's from your rookies.

I have the same backline structure as you but my gut tells me there can only be one line where this can work.

There is no reason why a fully fit Murphy and Beams can't avg the same as Bont and Sloane, then you get another 85+ scoring fwd over a rookie. You will get more pts and thats the game obv.

Bont is 6pts a game overpriced after losing his 1.2 HO to advantage this yr. Natural development in the kid will prob cancel that out, but you aren't going to lose anything by paying the same price for him later imo.

you have obv thought allot about this but i think you are wishing all these rookies to score higher than they will. Wishing these 65-70's from all your fwds to go with all these other guns. In reality its just not going to happen that way in my humble opinion.
You have told yourself, your not going to take any risks with any mid pricers or coming back form injury players, but its just canceled out for mine by starting a fwd line like this to go with your backline.

I think your team would get there eventually but it would be too late by then.

This is just one blokes opinion but thats what you want by posting your team ;)

Good luck for 2017

[Money Shot]

While i think this backline structure can work this yr, i don't think it can work across 2 lines in the one team. Without going into to deep, there appears to be enough back rookies at this stage to survive this. With the lack of back mid pricers that are worthing or underpriced premiums, its the place to do this, this yr.... at this stage.

i think its a mistake to take all your chances with all those fwd rookies over taking your chance with underpriced premiums coming back (this includes the other lines bar backs). If a previously injured gun coming back from injury has a full pre season, then he is a cheap fit underpriced gun.

there is just no way in hell your fwd rookie avg score predictions will work out they way. Just a couple of quick examples, Luggage is said to move like Pendles, but Pendles avg under 60 in his first yr albeit 9 games, who's to say Luggage is going to play every game, and the kid plays for arguably the worst team in the AFL. Weltering avg under 70. Hell Selwood only avg 77 in his first yr playing midfield.
You have predicted every one of your fwd rookies to avg 65+, just won't happen. You could deal with 60's from your backs but no way you can compete with under 60's from your fwd as well (again because your not going to get 65-70 from the). Bolton, Black, Picket all scream Impy first yr scores... 50's.

For me you need to make up for that with players like Heeney/Ryder/Roughy who should all go over 85.

By locking in all those fully priced mids your not leaving any room to trade in any fallen prem that we get every yr ala Selwood, Priddis etc etc from yrs gone by.

While you play all those rookies there is every chance the guy who starts a Heeny, Swallow, Sandi, Roughy get a avg of 90 for the first 8 rounds, and gets way ahead. By the time your trying to upgrade from 50-60avg rookies your too far behind.

Its funny that you hope everyone picks Keeffe, i see him as guaranteed 65 avg, where all those fwd rookies i do not.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the prems you have picked, but looking at allot of teams, there will be quite a few that get these cheap guns right while your getting allot of 60's from your rookies.

I have the same backline structure as you but my gut tells me there can only be one line where this can work.

There is no reason why a fully fit Murphy and Beams can't avg the same as Bont and Sloane, then you get another 85+ scoring fwd over a rookie. You will get more pts and thats the game obv.

Bont is 6pts a game overpriced after losing his 1.2 HO to advantage this yr. Natural development in the kid will prob cancel that out, but you aren't going to lose anything by paying the same price for him later imo.

you have obv thought allot about this but i think you are wishing all these rookies to score higher than they will. Wishing these 65-70's from all your fwds to go with all these other guns. In reality its just not going to happen that way in my humble opinion.
You have told yourself, your not going to take any risks with any mid pricers or coming back form injury players, but its just canceled out for mine by starting a fwd line like this to go with your backline.

I think your team would get there eventually but it would be too late by then.

This is just one blokes opinion but thats what you want by posting your team ;)

Good luck for 2017

Thanks mate appreciate it :)

Will mess around with structure later.

[Money Shot]

Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Danger, Pendles, Trealor, Rocky, Sloane, Bont, Fyfe, Myers (SPP, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldy (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Eddy, Smith)

Few changes here.

Tom Mitchell is very close to being selected.

Goldy is concerning me a bit but if he is named round one he is in.

[Gigantor]

Purest GnR team I've seen so far, pretty much zero risk in this team, I like it!

People will say "That backline is too weak" but its all relative, if there are more mid rookies come rd1 out goes a mid prem in comes a back prem, simples.

[Money Shot]

Purest GnR team I've seen so far, pretty much zero risk in this team, I like it!

People will say "That backline is too weak" but its all relative, if there are more mid rookies come rd1 out goes a mid prem in comes a back prem, simples.

Last season I had way to many mid prices so this year I'm playing it smart.

Yeah exactly I like the back/forward rookies more than all the mid rookies (apart from Myers) so that's why I'm going weak there.

[Glenmaggie]

I think this team is great. The mid rookies are definitely tougher to choose from than the forwards and backs. It all means nothing until round 1 selection!!!! Good luck

[Money Shot]

I think this team is great. The mid rookies are definitely tougher to choose from than the forwards and backs. It all means nothing until round 1 selection!!!! Good luck

Thanks mate :)

[Money Shot]

The Methamphetamen

Adams, Laird, McGrath, Keefe, Scharenberg, Berry (Hibberd, Ryan)
Dangerfield,Pendlebury, Trealor, Rockliff, Sloane, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Powell-Pepper (Myers, Freeman, Graham)
Gawn, Goldstein (Strndica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, McCluggage, Bowes, Pickett, Bolton (Smith, Eddy)

Cash: $2,000

Backline: I have chosen the two defenders that I think are most likely to be 1 and 2 come seasons end and then went for the more expensive rookie priced players purely because I think they have a stronger scoring capability than most of the 117k players that look like getting a go early.

Adams: He has averaged 97 for the past two seasons and at the age of 23 this could be his season to break out and become a 100+ player. Only concern is he has never played over 18 games in a season. However I along with many other people think this could be his year. Average wise he will be a top 6 defender with out a doubt as he will average 97+ and that is enough for me to confidently start him.

Laird: He has been gradually improving over the last two seasons and last season he went from a 92 to a 97 average. I don't see any reason why he can't improve his average by another 5 and become a top 6 defender. He has established himself as Adelaide's play maker out of the backline and they look to get the ball into his hands. He is 23 and heading into his prime. Worst case scenario is he only averages 95 or so but that's enough for me to start him confidently.

McGrath: Essendon and GWS both wanted him and rightly so, from all reports he is looking more composed than many of his team mates. He played footy last year when a lot of his team didn't so he should be more match ready then a lot of them. I believe he will rotate through the midfield heavily to give a lot of the returning midfielders a break as they increase there match fitness. I think he will have a 75+ average come seasons end which is very nice considering he is priced at a 39 average. (He averaged 145 super coach points at the TAC CUP) Woosha said that they may ease him into AFL life which is concerning however.

Keefe: Bucks has said that he will be playing a tall forward/back up ruck role. If he was playing as just a tall forward he wouldn't be that appealing to me but now that he will be spending some time in the ruck if he gets a hit out to advantage each quarter that would boost his score by 16 points. That could take his average from a 60 to a mid 70s which is well and truely enough to be a great cash cow.

Scharenberg: Collingwood see him as there play maker from across half back for the next 10 seasons and rightly so. When I have seen him play in the VFL he looks like he has so much time and space with ball in hand. I see Collingwood targeting him out of the backline which means he will rack up the possessions. At 160k he isn't really a risk and I see him averaging 70+ in that half back role.

Berry: He is a natural leader (Captained Vic Country at the championships) and the lions need someone like him out on the field early in the season. He is a big bodied midfielder who can play as a running defender and that's exactly what I see him doing at Brisbane. He will start off at half back and rotate through the midfield accumulating possessions and therefore points. Bit more expensive than basement price rookies but he is worth the extra 20k in my opinion. (Has had an injury setback so he probably won't be there come round one but if he is he's in my team)

Hibberd: North will be wanting to get some talented youth in there side and Hibberd is definitely that. He could even slot into the midfield with the lack of talent that north has in there. He has had a year in the system now to learn how north play and I think he could slot straight in and do well enough to keep his spot. North don't have that many high point scorers so it wouldn't be hard for him to hit around 70 most weeks.

Ryan: He is 20 years of age and already has a big body which is always a good thing for supercoach. He prefers to kick than handball which is another positive in his game. He is 117k so cheap enough to start on your bench. Freo are lacking in tall defenders and I cant see why Ryan wont be named round 1.

Midfield: Have got 7 midifelders who are all a real chance top be top 10 come seasons end. This is because I think many defenders will drop in price and I cant really predict who the top 10 forwards will be come seasons end. This is why I am stacking up in the midfield as you know what you will get.

Dangerfield: It confuses me as why people are considering leaving him out. He will play every week and is consistent as they get and he gives you a VC/C option every week. He is a player that is too risky to start with out. Just think, last season he started the year going 164, do you want to be missing out on 328 from round 1?

Pendlebury: He has been the most consistent player in supercoaches history and is my first selected player each year. He hasn't went under 116 since 2011. So worst case scenario he drops 5-10 points and goes 110 and is still a top 10 mid. Best case scenario you have a 120+ mid who very rarely scores below 100. Only went below 100 4/23 games last year.

Trealor: Scored over 100 for the first time last season at a new club. He is turning 24 in a month and is heading into his prime so there is no reason why his average wont increase again and even if it doesn't he will score 110 and be a top 10 mid. Now that he is at Collingwood he will only improve as he doesn't have as many up and coming players to compete with.

Rockliff: People seem to be forgetting that in 2014 he averaged 132 from 18 games. I know that it was 3 seasons ago now but I cant see why he couldn't score go 120+ this season. According to the guys at Brisbane he is looking as fit as they have ever seen him and he certainly has a point to prove this season. I like how he is a slight pod in my side with under 10% of the comp owning him at this stage. Worst case scenario he gets injured and I have to trade him to someone like Kennedy from Sydney. He is a risk I'm willing to take.

Sloane: Hasn't went below 105 since 2012 and now that he is in his prime I cant see any reason why he would. He showed us last season that he can score well with Danger scoring 108 and I think with a young and improving midfield around him he can reach 110 as he wont have to worry about teams targeting him. He is just so consistent and with guys like Fyfe and Rocky in my team he is someone I can count on being there come round 23.

Bontempelli: I'm shocked that his ownership is so high at this stage in the season and I was hoping that he would be around 10% rather than around 50%. However he is one of my favorite players to watch and people seem to forget that he has only just turned 21. He has still got another few years to improve before he even hits his prime. His average will only increase this season and that is enough to convince me to start him. BTW I am aware that he will lose points from the third man up being abolished but I just think he will get another hard ball get/clearance from it so I'm not too fussed.

Fyfe: He scored 120+ the two seasons before last and I don't see why he cant go back to those averages again. He is underpriced due to injuries last season and again I think he is too much of a risk to start without. If you don't start him and he starts the first 5 rounds going 120+ It will be very hard to get him in when you need him later in the season. He is injury prone obviouslt but I see it as a risk not to start him.

Powell-Pepper: I was hoping he would slip to Carltons second round pick to be honest as he has the body to play round one. He butchers the ball a bit which isn't good for supercoach but he is a tackling machine who can kick goals which should be enough to get him to 70 supercoach points most games which is more than enough for a 135k rookie. He did average 120 points in the WAFL colts which is encouraging.

Myers: Hasn't played footy in two years pretty much which is a bit concerning but he is only 27 years of age so he has plenty left in the tank. 3 years ago he managed to average 85 and all we want from him is 70+ he is a pretty safe bet to get that I would think. At 130k everyone should have him.

Freeman: When he was drafted he was meant to be one of the best players in the draft, unfortunately injuries have held him back. He is a few years older and bigger now which means he should slot into the AFL comfortably all we need is him to stay fit. At 123k I see a 70 average extremely possible so I am happy with him starting at M10. The saints may choose to take it easy with him and not play him straight away but he is in my side for now.

Graham: A ready made inside midfielder who will be lining up round one for the tigers. I predicted him going at about pick 30 and the fact that he slipped all the way to the tiges at 53 is good as now he is only 117k. He was a former South Australian U18's captain and Richmond would love his leadership in the middle of the ground. Again I don't see why he cant muster up 70+ points most games. He has been injured but should still be fit for round one it all depends if he is good enough.

Rucks: Set and Forget can't be stuffed messing around with Sandi and wasting trades if and when he gets injured.

Gawn: The thing that I like about Gawn is that he is only 25 so he still has plenty of years left where he will be at his 'prime'. He has such a huge ceiling with 6 games over 150 last season. He is too big a risk not too start with for me as if he hits 150 a few times in the first few weeks whoever doesn't have him will be behind the pack who does. That's why I'm paying the big bucks for him now.

Goldy: You could argue that he is underpriced due to injury and the fact that he had a bad year and averaged 108 astonishes me. I don't think that he can go back to a 128 average due to the lack of talented midfielders at North but I can see a 110-115 average which should be enough to be a top 2 ruck come seasons end. If he is named round one he is selected in my side (there are injury concerns but they don't concern me ;D)

Forwards: Dahl and Macrae are locks as you know what you are going to get with them and they will no doubt be top 10 forwards, they are the only two I can confidently say will average 95+. Apart from that I am struggling to pick the others so I have decided to load up on rookies and see what forwards are performing later in the season.

Dahlhous: He is 24 years of age and heading into his prime. Two seasons ago now he averaged 105 but dropped back to a 95 average this season. I put this down to a much stronger bulldogs side with more points to be shared around as well as having a 27 in round 12 where he got injured. Anyways I cant see him going below 95 and if he averages 95 that should be enough to be a top 10 forward with the lack of options this year.

Macrae: This guy is only 22 years of age so he is still improving each and every season, the two years before last he averaged 100 and dropped 5 ppg to 95 this season. I think this is because of so many bulldogs improving that they had to share the points around. So similar to Dahl I think that worst case is he averages 95 and is a top 10 forward.

McCluggage: A goal kicking midfielder is what the lions need and they got that with McCluggage. From all reports he already looks a class above most of his team mates and I think he could easily average 70+. What more could you want from a 200k forward. He is a real chance to be in the centre of the ground come round one and this is why he is locked in mine and many other sides.

Bowes: Even the coach said he is likely to be playing round one and that's always promising at this stage of the year. Will play a few more minutes than team mate Ainsworth and that's why he has got the gig in my team this far. Come round one there will be at least one of the Gold Coast boys in my side and with more midfield minutes and a cheaper price tag he has got the nod at this stage. 65-70 average is more than achievable for him.

Pickett: People seem to forget that this guy was pick number 4 in the national draft a couple of years ago, so clearly he has talent. North need a forward pocket like Pickett and I think he will be named round one. Only thing is I don't think he will score very well or consistently but I think we can expect a 60-65 average from him which isn't bad for a 123k player as it will still make some money sitting on the pine.

Bolton: He is everything you want in a small forward, he is super quick (possibly quickest at the club) and has a good game sense about him. He has impressed early and doing everything he can to push for a round one selection. Only concern is his scoring ability as small forwards usually struggle to score well. I see a 60-65 average occurring which is enough considering he is basement price.

Eddy: Probably the biggest lock in my side at the moment for a below 500k player. He was the top goal score in the SAFL last season and he is the perfect person to replace Schulz. He is 27 years of age so they have obviously recruited him to play. Again I think an average around 65-70 is possible if he does infact take Schulz's side in the team.

Smith: at 102k anyone is worth a look but this guy could be something special. Hogan and Watts have the two KPF roles downplay but the third tall is up for grabs. Pederson who is a spud and Weideman and Smith are the guys fighting for it. At 25 he could
Come in and play straight away where as Weideman is still developing. He is a real chance to play round one in my opinion and a 60-65 would be acceptable.

[sammy123]

really like the team. love the risk you have taken on a 2 premo def/fwd line

[Money Shot]

really like the team. love the risk you have taken on a 2 premo def/fwd line

Thanks mate! Just waiting for the JLT now.

[Cookie Monster]

Really like the set up stacking the midfield and setting the rucks. Early on in the season that will still get you plenty of points.

I think you need one of either Taranto or Ainsworth. I haven't really kept up with pre-season so forgive me if they're not fully fit.

My pick out of those would be Ainsworth simply because he's more likely to play round one.


It's probably the best year for a long time to stack up on rookies so hope it pays off with the ones you select.

Goodluck!